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Indiana[edit]

Six Points, Clay County, Indiana[edit]

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A passing reference by Baker to a "community" at this intersection (and the GNIS coords are inaccurate: the location is ESE of the label which they used as the location) is not enough. There's nothing much there, and I wasn't able to find anything myself. Mangoe (talk) 20:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suicide of Sammy Teusch[edit]

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No evidence of Wp:SUSTAINED coverage currently (also see WP:NOTNEWS) and can be recreated in the future if this turns out to have significant impacts. Clearly fulls under the purview of WP:BDP ("Such extensions would apply particularly to contentious or questionable material about the subject that has implications for their living relatives and friends, such as in the case of a possible suicide or particularly gruesome crime") and thus we should presume in favor of privacy. Sincerely, Dilettante 18:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Same arguments as nom: WP:SUSTAINED, WP:NOTNEWS, and WP:BDP. There is no encyclopedic value in documenting this tragic situation. I saw mentions of the family pursuing a law, and perhaps someday a law will pass and be notable and in that context, a brief mention of the suicide that led to the law would be appropriate. He only died less than three weeks ago; if there is continuing coverage six months or a year from now, an article could be reconsidered. (I came across this article and its deletion nomination via WP:BLPN#Suicide of Sammy Teusch.) Schazjmd (talk) 18:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Indiana. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per NOTNEWS. If this is truly a historically-important event rather than a tragic blip on the radar, there will be plenty of time to build a proper, sourced article then, rather than relying upon ONEEVENT coverage of dubious caliber. Carrite (talk) 19:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, clear NOTNEWS. At a minimum, this is way WP:TOOSOON. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 19:32, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is tragic, obviously, but the nominator and the previous delete votes have clearly laid out the case for why Wikipedia should not have this article. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 19:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. WP:BDP clearly and explicitly applies. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:28, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Perhaps the notable event is the persistent failure of school administrators to do anything, let alone develop a coherent strategy to reduce bullying, rather than the suicide itself. The international coverage that the incident received suggests that there will be changes as a result, starting with some school district officials losing their jobs, and perhaps the proposed legislation being enacted. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete per nom and NOTNEWS, and BDP. Additionally, User:Tempelz should review all the policies and guidelines quoted here in this discussion, and take a look at WP:RSP for acceptable sources to use in any article. Isaidnoway (talk) 22:11, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - If named legislation follows this, a solid Keep case can be made for an article combining the incident with the resulting law. But at this moment, this is clearly news reportage of a personal-level incident. Carrite (talk) 22:14, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WZDS-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:13, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roadman Corner, Indiana[edit]

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Here we have a puzzle, because as far as I can tell, the mappers simply made this name up when the school at this location closed. The Roadman School appears on earlier topos, and it is reasonably well-documented for a rural schoolhouse, mostly because of an attendee's recollections. As far as the "Corner" name is concerned, however, all the GHits are clickbait, and all the GBook hits are federal gazetteers. I find nothing indicating thee was ever a settlement here, in any case. Mangoe (talk) 02:13, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cesar Bernhardt[edit]

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Article recreated Sadads (talk) 00:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hoffman Crossing, Indiana[edit]

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Baker, as can be seen in the quotation, does not say that there was an elevator here, and I see no sign of it. At any rate, there's precious little sign of anything else here. Survey says this was just a freight station. Mangoe (talk) 11:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy Keep - The 1936 source refers to "instrumental in building a loading station for grain". In our current era, this loading station is referred to as "Grain elevators are facilities at which grains are received, stored, weighed, and then distributed for direct use, process manufacturing, or export."Grain Elevators. Editor Sweet kate was merely using modern terminology, but it's the same thing. I have added the clarification to the article, and sourced it. — Maile (talk) 14:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I seriously doubt that the terminology has evolved that much in the twenty-nine years since Baker's book was published, but at any rate, we have deleted a fair number of spurious "communities" which consisted of an elevator by the tracks and nothing else, even when one could see from GMaps that it really was an elevator and was still there. Mangoe (talk) 21:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not clear enough for a speedy keep. The article currently says: "Hoffman Crossing is an unincorporated community in ..." Maile, is it a community? Geschichte (talk) 16:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Indiana. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete A grain elevator is not a community, it is an agricultural facility and thus subject to WP:GNG. That standard is manifestly failed in this case, as no sources could be found other than the passing mention (cited above) showing that it exists. The fact that it's named after a person "instrumental" in building it is neither here nor there. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 00:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - aside from a 1951 article about a fatal car crash at the railroad crossing, I'm not seeing any coverage of this site at all. What I can find is coverage for Hoffmans, New Jersey and a location near West Milton, Pennsylvania. The grain elevator doesn't make the site notable, and I'm not seeing anything that would indicate a WP:GNG or WP:GEOLAND pass. Hog Farm Talk 00:46, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lap Corner, Indiana[edit]

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A pure GNIS stub about, well, the only things I could find suggested that "lap corner" is a surveying term, but I couldn't verify that. Anyway, there's nothing there and it seems there never was. Mangoe (talk) 14:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Strong delete Not a single mention in the detailed history of Clay and Owen Counties: [1], and nothing at the site now in satellite images. Does not appear on USGS topo maps until 1957: [2], and in no map is it shown as anything other than an intersection. The article is a flat-out falsehood. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 00:32, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Agreed, nothing found.James.folsom (talk) 22:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WWJS-CD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 21:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete I'd have thought a local newscast would be enough to get multiple pieces of coverage. I appear to be wrong, because I only found one article. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of stamp clubs and philatelic societies in the United States[edit]

List of stamp clubs and philatelic societies in the United States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Most likely fails WP:NLIST, consists of 60% red links. WP:NOTDIRECTORY also applies, and I didn't find WP:RS describing this list besides third-party directories. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 13:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment The links I clicked on had no references at all, or none that would count as reliable sources. Didn't check all of them. Dream Focus 19:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Most of the listed clubs are local organizations which would be unlikely to satisfy the notability criteria of WP:ORG. Hence, this looks mostly like a directory, which Wikipedia isn't. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy keep. This list is self-defining, and does not require extensive documentation. So far around twenty entries are individually notable, and the reasons suggested for deletion are not persuasive: 1) the number of redlinks is irrelevant; there is potential for expansion, and the list would be perfectly valid if the items were not linked, as long as it's possible to verify the existence of items that don't have their own articles; for this, third-party directories are fine. That said, some effort to document them is necessary, but fixing that is part of the normal editing process, not a valid reason for deletion. There is no deadline for locating sources.
2) none of the criteria of the cited WP:NOTDIRECTORY apply; this seems to be one of those policies that people cite because it sounds like it would apply, apparently without bothering to read and understand it. Specifically: this is not a "simple listing without contextual information"; the context is clearly given. It is not a list or repository of loosely associated topics; the items on the list are all closely connected by subject matter. It is not a cross-categorization. It has nothing to do with genealogy. It is not a program guide. It is not a business resource. WP:NOTDIRECTORY is about collections of information that have no encyclopedic value for readers; this list clearly has value. "This list is full of redlinks and doesn't have enough sources" is not a valid rationale for deletion. It's a reason to improve the list. P Aculeius (talk) 13:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
P Aculeius, those are all very good points, thanks for pointing them out. However, you have not addressed how this list meets WP:NLIST, do you think you could explain how it would to justify a speedy keep, as the fact that the entries themselves are notable does not guaranty the list itself being notable? Cheers, Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:44, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Corwin, Henry County, Indiana[edit]

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Searches did not return any coverage of a settlement or community, and USGS topo maps do not show a community or even a name at this location. The GNIS entry lists its source as "Illustrated Historical Atlas of the State of Indiana. Chicago: Baskin, Forster and Company, 1876. An extensively illustrated atlas which includes several U.S. and Indiana thematic and political maps, and maps of counties, towns and cities. The atlas also has many illustrations and portraits, patrons' and business directories, county histories and a U.S. Post Office list." As far as I can tell this was never anything more than a named point on the railroad. –dlthewave ☎ 04:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Non-notable railroad waypoint, nothing more. The name "Corwin" does appear on USGS topo maps starting in 2010, which makes me think someone as USGS just blindly entered the term from GNIS, much like the creator of this article certainly did. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 13:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Henry county Indiana, has a few good sources that discuss it's place names EG[3] that don't mention this place, so why should it be mentioned here?James.folsom (talk) 21:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Banning Corner, Indiana[edit]

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Topo maps show just a few buildings there, indicating this is a named intersection where the Bannings once lived, not a notable community or even "extinct town". Zero hits on newspapers.com or Google Books beyond the gazetteer and Indiana Geographic Names which – surprise! – calls it a locale instead of a populated place. Reywas92Talk 21:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete 99% of places with "Corner" in their name are just, well, corners, and this seems to be no exception. Not much found. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Not finding any RS coverage, appears to just be a named crossroads. –dlthewave ☎ 03:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Agreed, finding nothing.James.folsom (talk) 22:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brad Chambers[edit]

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This article has a lot of citations, but it's not as impressive as it first seems. Of the 36 pages cited: 3 are routine campaign coverage from local outlets, 1 is a Decision Desk HQ election results page, 9 are press releases or other pages on the Indiana Economic Development Corporation's website, 2 don't even mention Chambers, 2 are paywalled, 6 are campaign website citations, 5 take the format of "Brad Chambers announces ____ plan" and seem to be based off the aforementioned campaign website pages, and 2 are duplicates of other sources. The remaining few are more in-depth articles about his gubernatorial campaign or his appointment as state commerce secretary from Indiana-based publications (not anything he did in office, just his appointment). Nothing stands out about his candidacy that would warrant a standalone Wikipedia article; he was never a frontrunner and didn't really do anything noteworthy. And he certainly doesn't have any other argument for passing GNG, either via his (appointed) position as state commerce secretary or otherwise. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 03:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Oaktree b: On what basis are you arguing this? If it was a statewide elected office, you would be correct, but a statewide appointed official is not considered automatically notable. There are thousands of unelected positions in state government, they aren't all notable. Can you link me some other state secretaries of commerce who have Wikipedia pages? Or anyone else who's held an appointed position in Indiana state government that got a Wikipedia page solely on that basis? BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 18:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it not a ministerial position in the state government? Here in Ontario, the Minister of Commerce would get their own article. Elected or not, if it's a cabinet-level position, we've always held them to meet NPOL. Oaktree b (talk) 18:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b: In Indiana, the secretary of commerce and president of the Indiana Economic Development Corp. is part of the governor's cabinet. [4] AHoosierPolitico (talk) 19:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would assume that still passed NPOL. Oaktree b (talk) 19:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Is it not a member of the state's legislature? It would fall under here [5] Oaktree b (talk) 18:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b: Please try to familiarize yourself more with US politics before participating in discussions like these. No, the state secretary of commerce is not part of the state legislature, nor is it a particularly high-profile position. Again: if you're so confident that this position satisfies NPOL, you should be able to link some people who served as Indiana Secretary of Commerce (or any other equivalent appointed position in a US state's cabinet) who got a Wikipedia page on that basis alone. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk)
  • Keep per WP:POLOUTCOMES and Oaktree b. Elected and appointed political figures at the national cabinet level are generally regarded as notable, as are usually those at the major sub-national level (US state, Canadian province, etc.) in countries where executive and/or legislative power is devolved to bodies at that level. Also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Johnson (Alaska politician) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James H. Baxter Jr. for precedent of state cabinet secretaries kept. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 00:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Isn't that what I explained above? I participated in both votes that you've linked, one had good coverage, the other doesn't. He's a member of the sub-national gov't. US Politics is pretty much like Canada, we have the parliamentary system, the US doesn't. Both work basically the same. Oaktree b (talk) 00:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the vast majority of coverage is about his failed gubernatorial run, not about his appointment to a position which doesn't necessarily pass WP:NPOL (there is very little coverage of him in his cabinet position.) So I don't think the position merits the NPOL assumption when it clearly does not receive significant press coverage apart from his appointment. SportingFlyer T·C 23:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wilson, Indiana[edit]

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Here we have a puzzle. There are two data implying that this a rail point. First, the label starts out right next to the tracks before drifting south on more recent maps, towards a string of houses on Rt. 60. Second, GMaps informs us that the name of the road that crosses the tracks at this point is named "Wilson Switch Rd." Against this I have, well, nothing, because searching is pretty much hopeless. The question is whether that string of houses is now known as Wilson or not, and here I draw a blank. Mangoe (talk) 03:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Indiana. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is an interesting one, partly because there seem to be multiple names associated with the same location. A 1908 map identifies the settlement as "Dallas", while others like this plat map show it as "Wilson". (An 1875 map gives it as "Wilson Station" and notes an accompanying mill.) When time permits I'll aim to check the local histories in more detail, but the fact that it's been consistently present on area maps for the last 150 years suggests it was at one point an actual settlement, so for now I think it's best to keep it. ╠╣uw [talk] 09:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Searching for just Wilson got me nowhere, so I tried Wilson Switch, and I got some interesting results. A 1973 story about sales tax called Wilson Switch a community of 300, but this 1991 story about the local landfill just refers to the locals as "Wilson Switch Road residents", as do later stories about landfill projects. Earlier mentions of Wilson Switch were mostly about car accidents or railway incidents in the area, which doesn't clarify much. Wilson is still on the latest Indiana state highway map, though I don't know how thorough Indiana is about vetting small communities. Not sure which way I lean on this one. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 01:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I can still sleep at night if this is deleted. It's Rail station on the C., I. & L. (Monon) Railway [6], this same source explains that the post office was called Dallas. Lest we not forgot that old post offices were one word names, and were not required to share a name with their location. Huwmanbeing's observation that it is variously known as Dallas, Wilson's switch, and Wilson suggests it doesn't have a strong identity and that people were just referring to the landmarks as a way of being clear about locations. That book I cite above would use the place as a reference if it actually existed. Google snippets from this source [7] states the area around the switch was known as Dallas, and later Wilson, and is an "Unplatted village". I believe that source is just assuming that the place was called Dallas because of the post office at or near the train station. The name Wilson is almost certainly taken from the station, and post office was probably just that. The local paper only has mentions of for about 20 or so years starting 1942. Just life activities of people living near it. The satellite imagery would be very different if some sort population center had existed there in the twentieth century. Be careful researching it, it's not the only rail infrastructure with this name.James.folsom (talk) 22:46, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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