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12 May 2024[edit]

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Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

  1. All accounts were created around the same time, 3 November - 10 December 2023.
  2. All are interested in MILHIST (specifically Indian MILHIST).
  3. DeepstoneV and Kemilliogolgi Consecutively edited Deccani–Vijayanagar wars. [1], Siege of Channapatna [2] [3] and Siege of Vijayanagar.[4] [5]
  4. DeepstoneV and Kemilliogolgi have recently voted in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maratha–Nizam wars.
  5. DeepstoneV and Kemilliogolgi are heavily involved in Ghaznavid campaigns in India.[6]
  6. Both clearly couldn't distinguish between WP:RAJ and WP:RS sources [7][8] and continued to remove constructive edits done by user Rawn3012 in Conquest of Ajmer.
  7. Interestingly Kemilliogolgi in User talk:Aura G666/sandbox asked "How is it going? Everything is fine?" (in Urdu) to yet another user Aura G666 and they replied "Yes, but how can we publish articles here" this shows that Kemilliogolgi is not only involved in sockpuppetry but also meatpuppetry with many users.
  8. We have also found Hassan Gangu in many instances editing consecutively with DeepstoneV and Kemilliogolgi. Like in Siege of Jinji (1698).[9], Adil Shahi dynasty [10], Ramkot Fort [11], Bahmani–Vijayanagar War (1362–1367) [12], Siege of Chittorgarh (1535) [13], Umayyad campaigns in India [14] [15], Alauddin Khalji [16] and Battle of Nagaur [17] [18]
  9. Consecutively both asked some favours from the user SKAG123. [19] [20]
  10. Kemilliogolgi reverted an edit to the version of Hassan Gangu. [21] [22]
  11. Both were found at the talk page of Flemmish Nietzsche [23] [24]
  12. DeepstoneV and Hassan Gangu voted in Talk:Maratha Empire#Requested_move_17_April_2024

Based Kashmiri (talk) 14:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ribosome786 and Aryaputram7
  1. Acounts were created between 30 March - 4 April
  2. Both are heavily interested in Indian MILHIST
  3. DeepstoneV and Aryaputram7 are editing around Gupta Empire related articles
  4. DeepstoneV edits Aryaputram7's Draft:Battle of Eran [25]

Based Kashmiri (talk) 07:55, 15 May 2024‎ (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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I agree with that the first three seem to be socks, based off the given evidence, similar account creation dates, and single-purpose editing on Indian milhist articles. However, the recently added two, Ribosome786 and Aryaputram7 don't seem to be as there is no evidence for the former and the evidence for the latter is exclusively for editing the same draft, while it could just be that both editors are interested in the same topic. They did "talk" to each other on the draft's talk. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 12:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryofIran: What is your stance on this? You seem to have a lot of experience dealing with these recent Indian milhist editors, and based off your previous report, do you think that DeepstoneV, whom we encountered in the Gupta Empire reference dispute, and the other suspected socks are related to those mentioned in your report and thus a part of the same "Discord group"? Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 23:55, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flemmish. For some reason I didn't get your ping, happened to get here by chance. I don't really know the other users, but DeepstoneV is certainly not part of the Discord group, as they keep clashing with its members. The listed users seems to be clashing with the Discord group too. Though I am pretty suspicious of Based Kashmiri [26], also notice that in the thread, Based Kashmiri stopped commenting after Malik-Al-Hind appeared, almost as if they substituted (weak evidence, but still, considering everything else). I'll see if I can find more. HistoryofIran (talk) 11:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

08 May 2024[edit]

– A user has requested CheckUser. An SPI clerk will shortly look at the case and endorse or decline the request.

Suspected sockpuppets[edit]

Both accounts created around the same time, 9 December - 10 December 2023.

Both asked User:The Herald for help with their drafts.[27][28]

Made significant edits on Ghaznavid campaigns in India.[29][30]

Infobox edits on Battle of Nagaur.[31][32] Ratnahastin (talk) 04:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users[edit]

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments[edit]

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