Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 April 29

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29 April 2024[edit]

  • 2024 Alaska Democratic presidential caucuses – This is pretty clearly a "close call [or] controversial decision", which "are better left to admins" (WP:NACD). This should definitely have been closed by an administrator given this, and may also benefit from an extra 7 days to continue to flesh out the arguments within the debate. I would note that strict vote-counting is not how consensus is evaluated, but there was no rationale provided here by the closer as to how they weighed the !votes which can be considered. I therefore vacate and overturn this BADNAC "by an uninvolved administrator in their individual capacity, giving their reasoning". I will relist on today's log for further discussion. Daniel (talk) 01:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
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Closed by a non-admin with a merge/redirect decision even though there was no outright or majority consensus to redirect/merge the article. There was a tie vote of keep and redirect/merge with eight each. A tie vote here would mean there is no consensus to remove the article. The article not only met notability requirements but also had enough reliable sources on an election that happened making all the information necessary to have its own article.

All those that voted to redirect/merge mainly opposed because they felt since there was only one candidate, that in itself didn't make it less notable and they provided no evidence to their arguments other than what they felt and said all the sources were routine coverage. Yet, the so-called routine coverage were from reliable sources. The nominator of the Afd even tried to pass off an unreliable source from a right-wing publication as evidence of "in-depth coverage". Routine coverage does not apply to those sources. Elections are not routine coverage even if there is only one candidate on the ballot. And none of these had passing mentions. Yet an election still occurred where votes were cast for the incumbent and were not immediately awarded to the sole candidate by his political party which unlike in previous years where the incumbent president is running for reelection, the primaries wouldn't be held and all the delegates would be awarded to them. The vote this year unlike in Delaware and Florida, was not canceled in Alaska despite there being one candidate.

If this article has to be redirected because there is only one candidate, then all the Republican primary articles for primaries happening in May and June will have to be redirected to the main 2024 presidential election articles for each state. As would contests that already happened such as the 2024 Wyoming Republican presidential caucuses, 2024 American Samoa Republican presidential caucuses, and Democratic contests for Indiana, Nebraska, Montana, and the U.S. Virgin Islands that are happening in May and June. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Vacate and enjoin this editor from closing any more AfDs until they've shown they understand WP:BADNAC. This is the second improper closing we've seen from this editor in three days. Not exactly the best way to win the community's trust for their RfA. Owen× 23:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (involved) Leaning relist. I totally disagree with WikiCleanerMan's rationale, I nominated the article for deletion. I think this request for a deleion review stems mostly from WP:ILIKEIT. However, I agree that there is not a clear consensus in the discussion and a relist will hopefully allow more voices to be heard. Esolo5002 (talk) 00:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I provided sources to improve the article, and added information to add depth to the article. If I did, then it's not an I like it scenario. It's called improving the article which you hadn't done at all. You redirected it at first, then moved to Afd without starting a discussion on the talk page. You're now casting aspersions on an another editor who provided evidence to his argument. You didn't provide evidence of what made the article not notable and you were cherrypicking various guidlines without making a correct arguments. It is your I didn't like it because you felt some sources weren't up to your standard. Your personal view on sources is not how you should edit. It would appear you still stand by providing an unreliable far-right article to support your argument. A relist is not necessary as it has reached the one week point since the the last relist and it should be closed as no consensus. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.