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Category:MSI nettops[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:MSI computers and Category:Mini PC. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one article in category. Upmerge to relevant categories. Gonnym (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rihard Jakopič[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now: This eponymous category only has the artist and a pavilion that is named after them. Such a category, with two pages is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 20:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep for now: categories like redirects are WP:CHEAP. Maybe the category will be populated in the future. Do you see no prospect for expansion of this right now unhelpful category? Awesome Aasim 21:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Jakopič is well known artist in Slovenia and in future the category will likely contain Slovenian streets named after him. Category is useful to me. A09|(talk) 12:20, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Articles about streets named after an artist do not belong in a category anyway, as these articles do not provide any information about the artist. The streets may be listed in the article about the artist though. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:OCEPON, and the two articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I don't object to deletion of this category. It only contains two articles besides the eponymous one. If there are more articles created on the artist about some of his paintings (which are notable but I don't expect it will happen right away), the category may be recreated. Thanks for the notification. --TadejM my talk 22:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:OCEPON. I see zero policy/guideline-based reasoning to keep this category; just an WP:ITSUSEFUL and a "it might grow" (which was deprecated as a reason to keep a category in October). HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Coaches Kerala Cricket Team 2023[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One-entry category for a non-defining characteristic. We do not exhaustively subcategorize cricket coaches for the individual year they worked, particularly given that sports teams normally only have one coach at any given time, and thus each category would have only one entry (or perhaps two if a coach got fired and replaced partway through the season, but never, ever enough to actually surpass minimum size requirements for categories). And even if this category were justified, this wouldn't be its correct name anyway. Bearcat (talk) 19:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cartoonists by country templates[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 19#Category:Cartoonists by country templates

Category:United States National Recording Registry albums[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The same rationale as last time: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 April 28#Category:United States National Recording Registry albums. I still see no reason for this category to be active and it is still redudant to Category:United States National Recording Registry recordings. Even if all the album articles were listed under the United States National Recording Registry albums category, that would just leave songs and other miscellaneous records under the United States National Recording Registry recordings category. It is really a crime to have all the inducted recordings under one category? QuasyBoy (talk) 18:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good point Espngeek (talk) 18:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 19:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep, otherwise upmerge per Marcocapelle. Like all participants in these two CfDs, I'm not clear what the issue is. Not all recordings are albums, so there isn't an obvious redundancy here. But like the sole participant in the previous CfD, I'm not sure if these really make sense as categories rather than a list. -- Visviva (talk) 02:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 19#Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits

Category:People of South Asian descent[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The boundaries of South Asia are not well-defined. Beyond the central regions of the Indian Empire, there is significant inconsistency in which additional countries are considered part of South Asia. Clear demarcations—whether geographical, geopolitical, socio-cultural, economic, or historical—between South Asia and other Asian regions are lacking. Aldij (talk) 16:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose: Asia is a huge continent. I see this as creating more confusion when making categories than having them separate. The geographical boundaries can be debated but it does not change that some reliable sources including sources close to the author refer to the subject as of "South Asian" descent. Awesome Aasim 21:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, in the history tree for before 1947, the term "India" is mostly used to encompass the current territory of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. "South Asia" might be a better alternative than "India". Marcocapelle (talk) 03:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Regardless of the variability in definition of "South Asia" in the real world, Wikipedia has solved the problem for its own purposes. We have numerous articles and categories relating to "South Asia". The 8 countries we include are listed at South Asia. It is untrue that we lack a clear demarcation. To help with the issue of users not being aware of which countries are covered, we could copy and paste the list of 8 countries into the top of each category listed above. If there is a valid rationale for merging, it's not the one presented above. Nurg (talk) 09:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wikipedia intends to follow the real world, not to set its own standards. Of these 8 countries, Afghanistan is very questionable as it is often counted as part of Central Asia, but the other 7 are ok. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't have an opinion on whether Afghanistan should remain in South Asia or be moved to Central Asia. "Wikipedia has solved the problem for its own purposes" for now. It can change to a different definition of 'South Asia', but that's a separate debate and I probably wouldn't be interested enough in it to participate. But the nominator's rationale that the boundaries of South Asia are not well-defined is not true for our purposes. We have a very clear definition, albeit it is not immutable. Nurg (talk) 01:48, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose unless this is a proposal to upmerge all intermediate regional categories into Fooian people of Asian descent categories, for consistency. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would oppose such a proposal as well because geography. South Asians are culturally and linguistically different from East Asians and Middle Eastern Asians. Distance does a lot to culture. Awesome Aasim 20:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Carib people[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 19#Category:Carib people

Category:20th-century Algerian photographers[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:20th-century photographers. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. This category is only has one person in it and doesn't help navigation. Mason (talk) 04:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Students in Mauritius[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:33, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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