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Category:4-polytope stubs[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Category:4-polytope stubs

Category:Frozen conflict zones[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Category:Frozen conflict zones

Ungulates[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Ungulates

Category:Fictional sultans and sultanas[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. signed, Rosguill talk 00:04, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only two characters from the same work. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:54, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional American Jews in video games[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Fictional American Jews and Category:Fictional American people in video games. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:43, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT with 3 articles. In the previous CfD in 2014, people mostly argued for bundling the nomination with other small categories, but disagreed how and for the most part did not comment on the specific proposal. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:52, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional murder–suicides[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: triple merge to Category:Murder–suicide in fiction, Category:Fictional murderers, and Category:Fictional suicides. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:44, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only a single subcategory, Category:Fictional suicide attacks. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:19, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose AHI-3000 (talk) 21:20, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. @AHI-3000 what's the reasoning behind your opposition? Mason (talk) 21:50, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional executions by method[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Category:Fictional executions by method

Category:Burn survivors in fiction[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 25#Category:Burn survivors in fiction

Category:Fictional brands[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Category:Fictional brands

Category:Deaths in Raqqa[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. signed, Rosguill talk 00:06, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection for city of death. Mason (talk) 20:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, categories of death by location should be container categories by type of death. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:25, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 13:15, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Emigrants from the Weimar Republic[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge all as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:51, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Regime is not defining for expatriates/emigrants/immigrants in this case. The Weimar Republic wasn't a separate country from Germany; it was merely a period within it. Mason (talk) 19:46, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deaths in the Weimar Republic[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:17, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: non-defining intersection between political regime and death. Weimar Republic "was a historical period of Germany from 9 November 1918 to 23 March 1933, during which it was a constitutional federal republic" aka a different regime, but not a different country aka still germany. Mason (talk) 19:36, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cyber Security by country[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Category:Cyber Security by country

Category:Hispanic and Latino American mayors in Indiana[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Hispanic and Latino American people in Indiana politics and Category:Hispanic and Latino American mayors (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:52, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT (1 article). No opposition to recreation if the number of articles grows. User:Namiba 16:09, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deaths in the German Empire[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge, omitting the articles held directly in the parent category, i.e. delete that one. Note: I moved several of those members down into the suicides category, and added others to Category:Aviators killed in aviation accidents or incidents in Germany. – Fayenatic London 11:15, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: overlapping categories where political regime is not defining Mason (talk) 16:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Computer criminals[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename all as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 01:14, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To match Category:Cybercrime. Recommended in opposition to a CfDS for subcategory Category:Fictional cybercriminals.
Extended content
–LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:16, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support renaming all aforementioned categories per nom. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:32, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works set on the moon[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Category:Works set on the moon

Category:Pantheon-Sorbonne University alumni[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne University alumni, with a redirect at the original nominated target name. – Fayenatic London 16:09, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It's the univeristy's official name. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A452:7DDC:1:CDA6:47AC:F971:2358 (talk) 14:12, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This nomination damaged the #NEW NOMINATIONS header to this page. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:41, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne University alumni to match the main article exactly. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:43, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne University alumni per WP:C2D. HouseBlastertalk 01:16, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Saikū[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Saigū. Saikū remains the place name per Talk:Saikū. Category:Saiō is used to disambiguate Category:Saiin and this category, no matter if Saiō has a primary topic. (non-admin closure) NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 08:49, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is an active discussion at Talk:Saiō#Requested_move_24_October_2023 and we might want to move this category back to its original name Category:Saigū, but it was improperly speedy moved to a title representing something that it does not correspond to

One page was already moved to avoid this confusion Talk:Saikū_Palace#Requested_move_24_October_2023 and it is uncertain how things will go with the other move. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 01:18, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Yeah, there's some confusion here about terminology. Basically, there are two kinds of Saiō/Itsuki no miko, the Ise Saiō (also called Saigū, or as Wikipedia seems to prefer Saikū) and Kamo Saiō (also called Sai'in). Because the Ise Saiō was more popular, the general term "Saiō" was often used to refer to her. Keep this category (or rename Saigū) and place it in parent category Category:Saiō. -Invokingvajras (talk) 02:51, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting! Do you think that adding some of this explanation to the category would help clear up the confusion? Mason (talk) 04:54, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Invokingvajras: as Wikipedia seems to prefer is an odd phrase, Wikipedia does not have any preferences by itself. What are they mostly called in reliable sources? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:09, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The most common rendering of the word is "Saikū". The majority of Japanese-language sources I've consulted pronounce it this way, as does the Saiku Historical Museum. I think it would be ideal to move the current page to either "Saikū" or "Ise Saiō" and eventually create a page detailing the general concept of "Saiō" like the Japanese entry. -Invokingvajras (talk) 05:11, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The RM at Talk:Saiō was closed as no consensus, but the one at Talk:Saikū is still open.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:56, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There is a new RM at Talk:Saiō#Requested_move_13_November_2023. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:50, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:James Goldsmith[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 3#Category:James Goldsmith

Category:Artists from the Colony of Victoria[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 00:06, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We don't need to slice up 19th-century engineers/musicians/etc by which colony they were in. Regime is not defining. The colony only lasted from 1851-1901 Mason (talk) 01:03, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow (talk) 22:25, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:34, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Writers from the Colony of Western Australia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 00:07, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: ' We don't need to slice up 19th-century Writers by which colony they were in. Regime is not a defining intersection here. The colony only lasted from 1829-1901 Mason (talk) 01:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow (talk) 22:25, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:34, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Black composers[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Category:Black composers

Cultural depictions of criminals by gender[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge all as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 19:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCEGRS and WP:NARROWCAT, while female criminals is a notable topic in its own right, cultural depictions of them is not. Manually merge the first two categories, because most of the content is already in a subcat by type of crime. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:45, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 19:22, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Papua New Guinea national football team matches[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 3#Category:Papua New Guinea national football team matches

Category:Papua New Guinea national football team results[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 3#Category:Papua New Guinea national football team results

Works set in outer space[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Works set in outer space

Category:Cultural depictions of Black people[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Cultural depictions of black people. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 20:10, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, "Black people" is not a proper name, align with Category:Fictional black people. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:25, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Rename Some people have argued the Black people should be capitalized, but Wikipedia categories currently use the lowercase form. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:47, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per laundrypizza03. I recall finding examples with each option, but in this case, happy to keep them consistent. Mason (talk) 19:04, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Britsh sportspeople by descent[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 3#Britsh sportspeople by descent

Category:Massacres committed by anarchists[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 30#Category:Massacres committed by anarchists

Category:Kentucky women librarians[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. @Marcocapelle:, you can start an additional nomination to discuss merging. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:31, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think that the intersection for gender and state isn't defining for librarians, but I think that we can shift the scope of the category. There isn't a category:Librarians from Kentucky category (but there is one for category:Librarians from West Virginia). (I've already added the two members to the American women librarians category) Mason (talk) 05:23, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kentucky women philanthropists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:32, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual merge as this intersection is not defining. Followup to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_4#Category:Kentucky_women_news_anchors Mason (talk) 05:16, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Disease-related deaths in Nazi Germany[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 3#Category:Disease-related deaths in Nazi Germany

Category:Omani politicians by century[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Omani politicians. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:54, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, and it's not helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:37, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Gibraltarian people by occupation and century[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge all as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:53, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, and it's not helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:32, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Burkinabé actors by century[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Burkinabé actors. Merging has the numbers, and LaundryPizza's argument is strong. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:56, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. it isn't helpful for navigation with only one category Mason (talk) 01:31, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Even so, it is very unlikely we will be able to populate 19th-century categories and older. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:43, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Privately educated musicians[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 22:54, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: not defining Mason (talk) 01:29, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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