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Comment I certainly thing that ASCII-only redirects should exist for any topic with a title that includes non-ASCII titles, and also initial release Unicode codepoints-only redirects (without supplementary planes, or later additions) to provide base level compatibility in all cases. If we categorize them, I don't see a problem with that. If the pagename only uses 7-bit ASCII characters, then that's ASCII-only (without any use of the extended Latin ISO-1 or 8-bit EASCII) -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 01:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. Proposed titles are much more descriptive and helpful. – Paine 07:07, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. It should be noted here that the redirect category (rcat) templates that populate these categories are presently named {{R to ASCII-only}} and {{R from ASCII-only}}, respectively. PS added by – Paine 19:20, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films set in the 10th millennium BC[edit]
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The result of the discussion was:merge/rename per nomination. – FayenaticLondon 19:59, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:NARROWCAT and for films and 11th millennium also per WP:SMALLCAT. In addition, the timing of this fiction is far from precise, so "prehistory" is much more to the point. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:32, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support There is generally no profound difference between the choice of 10th or 11th millenium BC. The choice is an arbitrary one and the usage as a trope is not specifically connected to that millenium, but rather prehistory in general. SFB 17:29, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The time setting of a film is non-defining. The time is generally made up to some extent or other for the film, it is an artistic choice not an intrinsict value.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:10, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support to fit the larger category. The time setting of a film is always defining. Dimadick (talk) 23:24, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support "Prehistory" is an awfully fuzzy identifier. But I don't see the value in narrowly defined categories in this area which results in a lot of small or underpopulated categories. So, I think merging and renaming is preferable if these categories are kept. LizRead!Talk! 13:00, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was:merge/delete as specified. MER-C 04:02, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge and delete. Merge the first ~50 categories per WP:SMALLCAT, usually only one or two articles in each category. After merging, the other categories will become empty. This proposal is merging everything into "general decade" categories, "deaths by decade" and "by topic/location by century" categories. The proposal is similar to the earlier 9th century BC proposal.
Note: this will be the last all-century proposal from my side. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Going down to the year is not helping to group related material, and certainly does less so than grouping at the century level in this case. SFB 17:30, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Keep up the good work of eliminating these miniscule categories that are a hindrance, not an aid, to navigation. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:35, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: An absolutely vague category encompassing nearly every writer in the US. Did they write "about" the south, and if so, one book or all of them? Were they born "in the South", or moved there? Are modern writers from Atlanta, with no meaningful connection to Dixie, to be included? Impossibly vague. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:01, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP If Southern literature exists, then presumably there must be Southern writers ie., those who create it. And it seems to be our de facto position that Southern literature does, indeed, exist, as per the following article: Southern literatureKevinOKeeffe (talk) 00:58, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or rename the current name is very unclear. If it is for writers of Southern literature and if that is indeed a defining characteristic for the writers of this category (which is still questionable) it should at least be renamed to Category:Writers of Southern literature. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point, but "writers of Southern literature," is atrocious, from an aesthetic standpoint. I don't think many people will be confused about the meaning of a category that is entitled "Southern writers," particularly when they see its filled with a bunch of, well, Southern writers. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 15:55, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
While a rename of the category in line with its main inclusion criterion is apparently not possible, I'll strike my 'or rename' vote. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:10, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as a vague category, that will lead to confusion. The description and initial items seem to conflate birth location, work location, subject matter, school, and treatment. (A category that includes Thomas Jefferson, Mark Twain, and Edgar Allen Poe as 'southern writers' is not useful. — Neonorange (talk) 02:02, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete That a distinct body of literature exists does not mean it is easy or useful to define writers are belonging to it. Mark Twain in some of his works might seem to fit this, however he produced most of his work while resident in either California or Connecticut, and much of his work would be part of Western Literature or New England literature. Unlike in the case of Westerns, where it is clear it is a genere, it is unclear whether this is a genre of the work or based on the creator being in some way "Southern". Lastly the boundaries of the south are too contested for easy classification. Many Southerners will deny that Maryland is part of the south for example.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:13, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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