Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KSCZ-LD

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The result was redirect‎ to List of television stations in California#LPTV stations. Content is preserved in case sources become available. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KSCZ-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 22:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and California. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 22:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The various subchannels collectively represent most of the local Vietnamese-langauge media landscape in one of the largest Vietnamese American markets. They would be more notable than the station itself, sort of like anchor stores being more notable than their strip mall. These subchannels previously broadcast on KAXT-CD, which was notable in its own right for technical innovations during the 2010s. But after KAXT changed ownership and the Vietnamese stations fled to KSCZ, I haven't found a good way to write about them. Maybe I can find some angle for it in Media in the San Francisco Bay Area, minus all the technical details in this article. Minh Nguyễn ^💬 01:47, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Mxn, this is interesting to hear. Is there any SIGCOV of the individual channels? At that point, they might be the ones with articles. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:03, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  @Sammi Brie: Yes. Most of the subchannels originate in Los Angeles or Houston; some are mom-and-pop operations, with programming similar to what you'd see on a YouTube channel or FAST, but others like LSTV have SIGCOV in English-language press. One of them, Quê Hương, originates locally and is the granddaddy of all Vietnamese American broadcast media, but all they have now is a WP:COATRACK at KZSJ despite also running a weekly newspaper at one point. Unfortunately, the main reliable source about the local Vietnamese media scene historically would've been Viet Mercury, which isn't archived anywhere online as far as I know. The San Jose Mercury News archives only include the relatively few articles that were translated into English. Minh Nguyễn ^💬 11:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to state list The problem is that this station has had a journeyman history that rivals some early radio stations. When it was assigned, its COL was Buellton/Solvang. Indeed, it was a TBN station, on channel 53. It later turned up near Coalinga. The transmitter now is 372 kilometres (231 mi) from where it started. The second problem is that the SIGCOV won't be there for this LPTV, not in Santa Barbara, not in Coalinga, and not in San Jose. If the individual program services are notable, then so be it, but a bunch of famous people staying in one hotel doesn't make the hotel notable. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's an extended stay hotel. I think it's just too awkward to talk about any of these subchannels in the same article as the one about the station's pre-Venture history. I wouldn't be able to make the prose fit even if we had the SIGCOV. Minh Nguyễn ^💬 11:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please provide a link to a specific Merge or Redirect target article if that is the outcome you are seeking.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:34, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of television stations in California#LPTV stations: I assume this is the list Sammi Brie proposed redirecting to. These types of LPTVs rarely tend to get the needed significant coverage on their own — and if a service carried on it does (even if it is local-only), any notability there does not carry over, at least if it's a leased-time arrangement. (That its early history, far away from the Bay Area, was a run-of-the-mill TBN repeater doesn't help here.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.