User talk:Mushy Yank

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For work on international especially Italian, French films. DareshMohan (talk) 08:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot DareshMohan! I appreciate the kind words. Yours, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]Pidgin (1997)[edit]
Italian film. Can you figure out if this is an 11-minute short film? [1] [2] DareshMohan (talk) 04:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello DareshMohan, I couldn't find sources about duration, except the link you sent me. But as it was one of his early films, and given he did other short films later, 11' could be indeed correct.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you find any reliable sources for Scream of the Ants other than [3]. I don't think [4] and [5] are reliable but not sure. DareshMohan (talk) 00:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello DareshMohan, I would consider AlternateEnding a review by an expert. But, anyway, GBooks offers at least 4 significant results: De-Westernizing Film Studies - Page 104. Makhmalbaf at Large: The Making of a Rebel Filmmaker - Page 215 ; Persianate Verse and the Poetics of Eastern Internationalism - Page 191 and India Today International - Volume 4, Issues 13-25 - Page 39.  Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mushy, thanks for the help. Is the India Today source is referring to the director? Scream Of The Ants ( see film in India , Scream Of The Ants ( see box ) , has had an agonising experience . After an inordinately long wait of 15 years when he finally realised the dream of shooting a film in the coun- try , he ran ... DareshMohan (talk) 06:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. "After waiting for 15 years, illustrious Iranian filmmaker Mohsen Makhmalbaf finally shoots his first film in India but emerges with the lament that corruption is her greatest enemy"., says the only bit I can access now.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]Waqar Zaka[edit]
Hello again - Not trying to WP:CANVASS, but I thought I would ask your opinion on this person from Pakistan who's been involved in directing, producing, and creating  some TV shows. Do you think they qualify based on NDIRECTOR/NPRODUCER? --—Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Saqib. In fact I had had a look at that page but I didn't read the AfD, because it looked too long and chaotic! And I confess I find it tricky so I didn't vote (:D). There's a lot of coverage quoted, so I think there is a case for notability all in all, if one takes into consideration the presentation by the journalist before the interviews cited, and decides they are secondary sources. On the other hand, this being said,I don't know exactly what he is most notable for, maybe for being a multi-faceted celebrity associated with various notorious episodes, so if one says this falls under WP:ONEVENT, then you have to oppose the guideline multiple times, which may sound a tiny bit absurd. Perhaps his notability remains mostly based on the fact that he was hosting Champions with Waqar Zaka? Maybe a merge should be considered then, but I see the notability of the show is challenged too. So it's a quite tricky one. But, although his chameleon-like career does puzzle, yes, I'd say he looks rather notable to me, personally. Still, I have seen clearer cases of apparently notable actors or directors for which the same type of coverage was dismissed for being sensationalist, not independent enough, unreliable and/or not in-depth. As for WP:NPRODUCER, specifically, he only co-produced one notable show, as far as I can see, so really not sure. This is more a grey/yellow case for WP:ENT or GNG, imv. Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You might have formed an opinion that I'm against Pakistani showbiz articles and are probably wondering why I'm sticking up for Waqar Zaka. You might think I've got some kind of COI or maybe I'm just a superfan. But the fact is this guy is a big deal! Every single legit Pakistani RS labels him as a popular figure. Still can't wrap my head around why someone's so keen on axing his BLP.For example, DAWN refer him a as a television and social media personality, Pakistan Observer call] him a once a known face in Pakistani showbiz , The Express Tribune states he has a cult following that his show more popular than any other reality show in Pakistan, Samaa TV refer to him as the prominent Pakistani TV host, social media influencer, The Nation says he's a Pakistan's prominent reality TV host, VJ and stunt performer, Daily Times refer to him as a Renowned Pakistani celebrity and the famous television host and stunt performer while The News International says he is One of television’s famed personalities and the list goes on. --—Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's an interesting tidbit: even Jimmy Wales once edited his BLP. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:36, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Who's Jimmy Wales? Anyway, as I told you twice above, I do think he looks rather notable as a celebrity, yes, so I am not the one you need to convince here. Best,-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:31, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since the BLP is gone now, may I ask you why there wasn't any support to keep the BLP then if you think he's a notable figure.  I mean I've seen your efforts to save articles related to Pakistani showbiz, which is commendable, but why not keep vote on the Zaka's BLP. Just trying to understand the reasoning behind it. Thanks! —Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support from me, you mean? I didn't vote K or R because my !vote would have almost certainly been considered the result of votestacking, although you mentioned it was not your intent to be canvassing (but you assume from my recent !votes, as you say, that I generally !vote Keep and your message might have been deemed inappropriate and biased) which would not have served nor you nor the page, imv. The page was deleted? Feel free to expand the page about Champions with Waqar Zaka, then. They are evidently closely connected and I think a paragraph about WZ would be appropriate. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]No - I wasn't expecting your keep vote after my comment on your tp. I was hoping for it before I started THIS thread, especially since you mentioned you were aware of this AfD and you felt he was a notable figure. Anyways, I'll drop this topic now as this AfD draw some unwanted negative attention towards me. And I'm not really looking to expand on this article. I'm not particularly interested in these kinds of articles. It's just that I recently started doing NPP and somehow, I've had to deal with showbiz related topics. --—Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  I'll rephrase/repeat: I had had a rapid look at that page and found it tricky, took a glance at the Afd and found it looked long and chaotic (so I didn't even read it). Then you came and kindly asked me for my opinion. I took the time to reply after having done some further searching and found that he looked rather notable after all, since that was your question. You replied (without thanks but with various assumptions), and presented me sources. What were they for, since I had said I found him rather notable? I'm note sure.
 If he had been an actor, I might have done some searching in the first place and !voted but I saw he was not, and was a host/celebrity, who did not seem obviously notable, and as I did not have time nor interest to dig any further then, I didn't search (and therefore didn't !vote). Had he been a real actor, even then, I don't !vote on all pages about actors, or series or films. I had no time nor interest, that's why. I voted on many Afds recently and mentioned, to you, that it took me more time than I wished. I am not certain why I have to explain this. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking the time to explain things. And allow me to clarify that I shared the source earlier today on this tp, after seeing your comments. My aim wasn't to sway you into voting to keep the BLP. I simply wanted to highlight that if Pakistani RS recognize this guy as a significant figure, then what's up with folks trying to delete the BLP. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]