User talk:JFHJr

Fugabus

I would wish to be your menee and you be my mentor. I'm impressed by your ability to resolve the dispute that no editor has been able to resolve for a while now on Simon Ekpa.

Please, I will be more happy if you accept my request. «fjuːgəbʌs» (talk) 22:18, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Greetings and thank you. I'm glad that I could contribute to forming a WP:CONSENSUS that you felt comfortable joining. I am open to responding to any questions you bring to me here (until I'm not). I will respond as my free time allows. You should keep noticeboards like WP:BLPN and WP:RSN as lines of second resort, after a good try for consensus on a talkpage. I am not interested in being anyone's mentor, but I'm happy to be a resource for you if I can be. My solicited advice for you today is: try to piss less people off; try pausing and tracking the general consensus. Also, this ("you can stop asserting") and that (all) might be construed as uncivil, so talk about the topic, content, and sourcing instead of other editors. The corresponding editors did not like it. While being bold, aim still for dispassionate. JFHJr (㊟) 22:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

PS. I didn't invent this wheel. I based my edit on GGS' observation from the article history. @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: thank you! JFHJr (㊟) 22:55, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. We'll see if the peace holds. If not, you might get a ping, unless you're there already! Please watchlist if you haven't already. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

A couple of related discussions, may give some context:[1][2] I'm not saying they're interesting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:29, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh joy:[3] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: I'm learning a lot on the fly here. But one big lesson is it's going to matter what I name my org when I'm ready. It's super convincing to end the registered name with "GIE" but it's important not to stop there, or these things might happen. The lesson in foresight is that I'll need to add "The Tacitly Universally Recognized Democratic People's Autonomous National Transitional Successor to the" before the org name to head off certain problems with reality. The registered org name alone makes it official and verifiable in reliable sources to repeat as facts. On behalf of the hypothetical TURDPANTS Republic of Lahti GIE, I'm excited. It takes a quarter tank of gas to get to Raleigh and back, and the NC Secretary of State corporation filing fee is just $125 for creation, unless I want an LLC. JFHJr (㊟) 20:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Addendum: Limited Liability Corporation just sounds like the safer route for this org's president, prime minister, emperor, and messiah (it's all just me). JFHJr (㊟) 21:23, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

You know what? The "org" that's claiming this and that? It's not apparently registered... so is it even real? I may be one step ahead of them just knowing to register. JFHJr (㊟) 05:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Do you doubt the word of Ekpa? But interesting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Fugabus, cont'd

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I restored the revision you reverted on Biafra but this time, I added multiple RS for fact checking. 1 2. 3.

Can you please allow that to stay?

Best, «fjuːgəbʌs» (talk) 19:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

No. The sources that you cite either merely repeat the org's name or claims, or else are very sarcastic about Ekpa's claims. You've also inaccurately described edits as "vandalism" and described what you think I "want" in your edit summaries. That's inappropriate. Your POV pushing needs to stop now. JFHJr (㊟) 19:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

No,this particular source of Southern Examiner went direct to the point and I found it today on the internet. It has been online since February, I think. I apologize for using the word "vandalism". I think I missed it there. «fjuːgəbʌs» (talk) 19:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

What about that source makes it look like a WP:RS to you? JFHJr (㊟) 19:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

BTW discussions about sources belong on the article talk page or on a notice board, but not on my talk page. Discussing article content on user talks is eminently ineffective. You should port your proposal there, and expect to observe and follow the consensus that emerges regarding the changes you've made. So far, you have failed at that. Cheers. JFHJr (㊟) 19:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Extrinsic

If you look at this video [4] almost to the end, you get to hear Stephen Fry use that word. If you like Fry & Laurie, it's worth it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:50, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

It got extrinsic just 1:25 in, and at 2:34 — about "a unique method" seems like they've presaged the day on some articles here. I appreciated that! Thanks for the laughs. JFHJr (㊟) 19:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Damn, I missed that, but re-watching, I realize it was the 1:25 that echoed in the back of my head when I read your comment. The dual gestures are just brilliant. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. The only funnier thing that has crossed my mind today is that we may be engaging in high-level diplomatic correspondence between the People's Democratic Republic of Knowledge and an unrecognized executive with unfettered power and basic internet access. You stepped in this first, so I'll just be a liaison. Best wishes to us all. JFHJr (㊟) 19:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm still hoping for a breakthrough in the diplomatic negotiations at [5], but we'll see. And I really appreciate you sticking round. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Bbb23 did set a correction. I did appreciate that input. But I think a global CU might reveal things for future consideration, if even stale socks that won't be blocked until reemergence. Bbb23 did that in more than once case that I observed, and one case that I had involvement in several months before sock resurrection. Keep the faith in colleagues. JFHJr (㊟) 19:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

PS. I actually use jargon words like extrinsic often while working. I'm used to it being such a straight-faced word. You may have changed my work life, depending on whether I can stifle a snort for the next few days after saying or hearing it. You've poked me cerebrally IRL, congrats. JFHJr (㊟) 19:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

After some years of Wikipedianing, I suddenly found myself using "consensus" in a conversation. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Movin on up! —The Jeffersons. Consensus is what it's all about. Even in real life. And thank YOU for sticking around. If it's not too much trouble, mind watching Uebert Angel for like a week or two? I'd like to extricate myself from that very similar battlefield, and a second opinion would be so helpful re BLP. JFHJr (㊟) 19:41, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Move It On Out - Stephen Fry. I'll put it on my watchlist. I see Bishonen has been editing that article a bit, that's a good thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:51, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Bishonen is a good thing. Bishonen is also pretty conflict-averse. Thank you for watching for a bit. I trust your judgment and enjoy that you're willing to restate BLP for people in effective ways. I find the subject of that article despicable and I imagine the things written about him in non-RS are probably true. But he's notable forever, so let's make the best of it BLP-wise, right? Thanks again for all your time and attention and humor today. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 19:57, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Conflict-averse? Well, maybe. Up to a point. Making the best of it BLP-wise is indeed the challenge. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

*Move It On Out, Grrl. Nomming for best TP EL of the day. JFHJr (㊟) 20:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Last spam of the day:[6] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Wow. JFHJr (㊟) 20:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)