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Hi there folks, I've been a reader here for quite a while but i haven't engaged a whole lot, however i feel as if i'm at a point where i can share an experience of mine with the use of Nootropics. This is going to be a relatively long post, however I will leave a Dot-point summary at the base.
I began using Modafinil (Modalert) close to 12 months ago, after hearing about it on a Podcast, and ignorantly and easily persuaded me decided to order some to try it out for myself. I'm going to start this with a brief experience overview followed by some Positives Vs. Negatives i have experienced.
My overall experiences
I take Modafinil two days per week, back to back at a 200mg dosage per day, generally at around 12pm (midday), often with or just after eaten lunch.
My initial experience for the first 4-6 doses was incredible, I 'felt' a difference, I could consciously feel myself paying far greater attention to my work (i was running a E-Commerce business at the time in addition to a Full-time job) and having little-to-no brain fog at all, which for me was an absolute godsend, as I am generally a pretty anxious/easily distracted person.
Skipping forward about 6 months, whilst still taking the same doses, at the same times, those feelings no longer come. If i think about it on a day to day basis, I am marginally more alert than without it, however if feels although the effects are no longer as strong as they once were - this could come down to my tolerance level, but I would have assumed taking it only twice a week, that I wouldn't build a tolerance... please let me know if I am wrong.
At this present moment in time, I continue to cycle Modafinil, at the same levels as before, on the same days. The story has not changed since 6 months ago.
However, one thing I HAVE noticed, is that when I dose modafinil whilst working at my day-time job, on the days i dont regularly dose, the effects are greatly felt. I work in Sales, and the benefits are crazy. I am FAR quicker on my feet in terms of responses to questions from customers, i can bring product knowledge to my tongue lightning fast, I become more witty, I never get distracted and overall i just feel like i'm 'pingin''... the Benefits go on! I guess, I feel as though I become a well-greased wheel in my Sales role when using Modafinil - and my sales figures often represent higher conversions, higher ticket price sales, all the while being faster and obviously more effective.
i've tested this theory many times in the last twelve months. It's important for me to mention that I have also ruled out a Placebo effect by blindfolding myself, and allowing housemates to give me either one dose of Modafinil or a common vitamin.
To cut the long story short, I feel as though the effects in my experience of using Modafinil have worn off greatly, again, this may be due to a tolerance build up, and I may have to step up my dosage to feel full effects. I feel although the drug is marketed in the wrong way - a lot of first time users assume they will have crazy super human abilities as depicted in movies - this for me is far from the truth. However general memory recall is raised marginally.
Summing up, for those who didn't want to read my poorly written essay:
Positives -
- Marginally increased Memory Recall.
- When the dosage is right, and no tolerance is built up, I experienced laser like focus on my business work.
- Brain Fog decreases tremendously.
- Not a bad pre-workout (I say this half joking), I have felt an increased focus on lifting weights, better technique, and less overall awareness of being tired/less-energy, compared to normal workouts without dosing.
- Ability to talk faster
- Less time needed to think of answers on my feet
- Ability to recognise distractions and cut them out earlier than normal.
Negatives -
- Problems sleeping from time-to-time.
- Brain fog the day after a dose upon waking
- I personally feel that in order to feel effects you cannot just take it and do a normal day - you need mental stimuli and to be working on a project that requires great attention to detail - this is when i notice the full effects.
- Urine smells like Acid.
- Headaches upon taking initial doses, also when not drinking enough water.
Thanks for allowing me to share, and if not for anything else i would love to hear your own personal takeaways from using Modafinil, and if anyone has information on Tolerance build up regarding my dosage, please let me know. I'm all ears.
What’s your routines on Moda? Here’s mine. Wake up at 5:30, make coffee and oatmeal. Take 1 200mg Modafinil and 1 caffeine+l theanine pill. Then hop in the shower where I start to feel the focused buzz coming on. Work from 6:30-4, and still have energy to do the dishes lol. I don’t take any during the weekend, just Monday thru Friday.
Has anyone found relief of ADHD symptoms with Modafinil—also known as Provigil, please?
I feel like as I am getting older, precious memories are becoming very foggy and vague and some I have completely forgotten. Is there anything I can take that will bring them back or enhance them?
I came home today to a letter from US Customs and Border Patrol about a seized shipment of modafinil from overseas. Essentially, it says by doing nothing they will help me dispose of it and "future attempts to import controlled substances may result in personal penalties or criminal prosecution. I had ordered this from a common supplier and the first batch got stuck in customs months ago. The supplier worked with me to resend it and it got through fine. Anyone else get one of these? Kinda feel like the current stock will be the last unless I can get some legitimately.
Ive contributed to recent posts reguarding this, but this should be made clear, ESU1340 batch of Modalert is a sugar pill.
Anyone who doubts, put one in your mouth and chew it like a candy. Chalky and SWEET. Zero bitterness and of course needless to say, zero effect.
This batch has been mentioned in other posts already, but given it has now had multiple independent people flag it, its fair that its given it's own post for easy reference to the sub.
Poor Quality, Fake, Doesn't Work, Bad Batch, Scam.
Please upvote if you have had this batch and can confirm, and if you disagree, link a pic to show us your packet of ESU1340 and explain why you disagree.
Recently, I started a routine where I wake up at 4 AM, pop one 200mg pill and start working out. I do strength training for an hour, have a small recovery meal and proceed to run to the nearest basketball court (3 Kms away) where I practice on some days and play pickup games on others. I approximately get done with my session at 7:30 AM. I then walk back home feeling the most mentally blissful as I can ever feel. I have realized that this is the ultimate combination for me. Combining them has made me more focused throughout the day, regulated my appetite (which was all over the place because of bulimia) and has helped me reduced nicotine cravings!
I just wanted y'all to know that the mental clarity from modafinil can be used to be more motivated and achieve your goals, whatever it might be!
My body composition is finally changing, and I haven't been happier!
That's crazy... many have suspected President Barack Obama was taking provigil (brand name modafinil).
Hey,
I am a long-term user of Modafinil (4 years) and would like to find out what other long-term users have experienced (positive and negative side effects). I am quite interested on what it actually does to our brain and body over a long period of usage and am curious if anyone can provide me with any scientific research (or similar?). So far, I can only speak from experience, and I am about to stop using Modafinil due to the negative side effects.
I've been taking Modafinil for 4 years pretty much every day (with some breaks inbetween) and while I found it incredible in the first year (while I was still in University), I started to experience negative side effects, which makes me want to quit the drug completely.
From my experience, positive effects include:
- Increase in productivity
- Interest to learn/study/experience new things
- Being alert and focused
- Feeling of having more energy after little sleep/hangover
However, over the years, the negative side effects piled up:
- Increased anxiety
- Paranoia (especially in public places)
- Long-term memory loss
- Short-term memory problems
- Aphasia
- Hallucinations
- Weird body odour
- Increased sweating
- Weird sleeping patterns
- Eating problems (binge-eating or not eating for days)
- Blurry vision
- Lung problems (I am down with bronchitis at least 4 to 5 times a year) - otherwise coughing a lot
- Dental problems (swollen gums)
- Menstruational problems
- Hair loss
- Weight gain
For the record, my dosage is usually around 200mg/day. Sometimes less, sometimes more. Dependancy has kicked in, and I feel the need to take more and more. That scares me.
Overall I feel like I have changed a lot, looking back just 4 years ago, I don't recognise myself anymore.
But as I've said, these are my experiences and I would love to hear from others what they have experienced in the long-term.
I want to quit, but I am kind of scared that I won't be as productive anymore, and that it will just makes things worse. Like, my brain is so wired and I have no idea if I can go back and become my "old self". I have no clue if I can rewire my brain. Any advice would be highly appreciated too.
Edit: I really want to emphasise that this is the experience I've had so far and do not bring across that Modafinil is bad or you shouldn't take it. This is really just for sharing experiences so I can learn and take any given advice into account. I highly appreciate everyone commenting and giving advice and sharing their experience. I also respect if I get downvoted for this or my comments, but I would highly appreciate the reason for it (I can only learn from criticism I can read, not from downvotes). Thank you!
Edit 2: I am sorry that I have not made myself very clear about this. I am not a doctor or professional so I don't know if my symptoms are caused by taking Modafinil or another health issue I have not discovered yet. So far, I get regular check ups and seem to be health. That's why I attributed these side effects to Modafinil as I am not taking any other medication. I have gotten really good advice here as to check for my thyroid and to get my sleeping pattern under control - which might be the cause for some symptoms! This is purely for sharing experiences and getting advice and I thank you all for replying to me, sharing your experience, and helping me! Thank you, you're awesome!
Been using Modafinil for a full 1 year now as I fell in love with it the first day I used it..
I run a high-pressure company and days can be extremely challenging. It requires constant focus and pushes to get from A-B every day. I have used 200mg Modafinil every day with some breaks in between (weekends sometimes, holidays etc).
Apart from laser focus, motivation, connecting with my true self and wanting to better the world I see no real negative effects caused by Modafinil and will continue to use it through my journey of life. I do feel a slight elevation in anxiety when in environments that could be financially damaging to our company or with works stresses but these are nowhere near enough to outweigh the benefits so far.
If you're wondering whether to try Modafinil or not and if it will benefit you I am happy to discuss my experiences.
What is going on here?
I’ve been using modafinil for 7 years and I’ve never had experiences like I have with the most recent batches.
And it’s not just me, my gf has had the same exact symptoms.
We took 200mg of Modalert and it was as if our guts were being carpet bombed with gas, bloating, inflammation, and explosive shits.
Horrible.
Weak modafinil effect. Mostly anxiety throughout the day.
What the hell?
Anyone else experience this?
EDIT:
The current batch I have is Modalert ESU1012.
Horrible side effects. I’ve tried multiple Modalert batches in the last 6-8 months.
I took Waklert batch #EMU1857 today and so far no sides. Will report later if anything comes up. This appears to be working correctly.
I took 250mg of modafinil some ten days ago and my heart has been beating wildly since then. Did this happen to anyone else, and when does it stop?
I’m a medicine student and went through two weeks of intense studies for my finals. Those kind of finals where you see yourself going to sleep at 2 am and waking up at 5 am to keep on studying. Not healthy at all, but being a brazilian studying in a place where they only speak Spanish and that summed up with the fact that it is my first year in the university after being away from books for nine years, you just gotta do it. Fact is, I was using methylphenidate for concentration during the day, and when the clock hit about 5pm, I took like 100 mg of modafinil to keep on going a little more. Almost no caffeine since I know it has some influence on methylphenidate and reduces its effects by activating the NCS. By the fifth day, when there were still 3 tests left, I totally COLLAPSED. Cried for no reason, couldn’t concentrate, didn’t wanna eat, couldn’t do anything. Just wanted to cry and cry. Obviously it maybe the pressure I was putting on myself but I’m pretty sure that the medications played some roles on it. Never doing that again. We need to know how to dose it and not go on a non ending concentration bubble. It costed me two days to go back to normal, and then obviously started doing it again but on smaller doses to make sure I could make it.
Well, approved all tests and am now a second year med student, but the feeling was horrible. Don’t do self medication, it can cost you a lot of mental health.
Does anyone else experience the same strange phenomenon? Pills that are from the same batch (Sun) either seem to work their magic or not or to a much lesser extent on some days. I was trying to rationalize this: perhaps the effects are subtler on days where I haven't slept that much?
But I am pretty sure the S-Modafinil enantiomer only appeals to addiction...
Just started taking armod and its like whoa, "no more bullshit in my moda": No more shitty "comeup."
I can actually focus now without feeling that strange ass giddy/anxious feeling that I was getting for the first 4-5 hours, undoubtedly from that shitty enantiomer. I am feeling pretty upbeat too, on the first day of switching, I dunno that will go away or not, but whatevs, as long as it doesn't stop keeping me awake and focused...
:)
feel free to downvote and hope I don't come off as too judgmental (former adderall addict here) I thought that this might help someone.
(edit:
I thought 75mg might be a good dose since they make pills up to 250mg, but I was wrong. It was waaay too much. I got a little dizzy at around the 3 hour mark as effects started peaking. I got agitated and slightly nauseous after I ate some food and ginger capsules. I will be taking half the dose, to more or less match the amount of armoda that I was getting in the adrafinil I was taking (150mg)
I wouldn't recommend taking more than 75mg unless you have serious medical issues. That shit is way too much.)
Having an intensive software coding workshop this week in the UK. As a dutch-speaking person, it would have been impossible in the past to keep my focus for 8 hours straight, as not only the content is very complex, but my brain needs additional effort to process the foreign language all day long.
For this reason, I started 200mg a day each morning and I’m stunned. After lunch break, you can literally see the energy being sucked away from my colleagues. Not for me, I’m 400% focused all day long . Furthermore, I’m losing the anxiety to socially interact with people. The exact same feeling I experience when drinking a couple of beers.
And the best part is: I sleep like a baby at night, I break all my records of amount of REM sleep. No crash at all next morning.
I’m in love.
My doctor is about to prescribe me modafinil, and thanks to this community I know choline can be helpful, especially since I’m prone to headaches already.
How much choline do you find helpful?
Thanks!
Have taken modaf in the past. Usually only 100mg, and have not taken modaf for more than 3 days straight. Haven’t taken it habitually either, but am now thinking of taking 100mg semi regularly. (3-4 times a week). I’m generally sensitive to stimulants, how many of you have developed a tolerance? Studies seem to indicate that tolerance isn’t formed.
I had a massive problem with lack of energy, concentration, memory loss. I could never learn anything new. This went for about 6 years. After psicologists, blood tests, exercise it was exactly the same. Then I found this, I tried it for the first time and this is my experience. I took it and after 1-2hrs start feeling way way more energy like I was my true self. I felt more alive and more concentrated and happy. Not sure cause since it's the first day its probably placebo effect, probably not. Who knows but so far it has been great. On one class I felt sleepy and started to sleep but got out of it and again the energy rised. My focus and happiness too. I feel more anxiety I guess in a way I am moving a lot. I talk much more too (but in a really good, healthy and positive way), I feel more social but with more anxiety like I am not nervious but I feel like I have to move more. And not stop doing something, which I guess I don't mind but it's there. At some points I lost a lot of energy and felt like before, but it is to note that I am taking antibiotics and am a little sick, I also slept 6hrs and I usually sleep 8. So who knows how it will be when I am back to normal again (healthy). But for now I honestly just seen mostly positive effects. I hope it's not placebo I guess not cause after all they are chemicals and science stuff so... lets wait and see. Wanted to record this somewhere to remember my first day experience. So why not here and share it too.
Update: Next day was not good, I took 200mg again, felt the opposite no energy, 0 concentration. My heart beat was still higher than usual but the effects were pretty much the opposite, couldn't even have a normal conversation with anyone without sounding like a zombie. It actually made me much worse than being without it. Came home and took 200mg more just to verify if I didn't took enough, and after 30 mins-1hr I felt like I could not think I was completely out of focus it's hard to explain but I just couldn't think, couldn't focus at all and nothing sticked to my brain, for example, I thought "oh I have to add gas to my car I better go in an hour" not even 10 seconds later I forgot about this. Someone talks to me and I "listen" 5 seconds later and not even being capable of processing what they said. What the fuck. I was 100 times better without this. I guess the answer is not more, but maybe less.
I planned on rotating between caffeine, nicotine and modafinil so keep tolerance buildup for each low. I currently take caffeine 2x week, nicotine 1x week im wondering roughly how often could you take modafinil where you wont build anymore tolerance over time