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[–]Nick_AIDungeonDeveloper 102 points103 points  (5 children)

Looks like something changed with an engine change that OpenAI did. Working on reverting the change and fixing it. Thanks for pointing it out.

[–]Somethingcreative212 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Hey I just wanted to say you've made a wonderful game and i'll wait till the end of time for it to be fixed. Thanks for responding so fast it shows how much love you have for Ai Dungeon. :)

[–]mcplano 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Hi! What are your thoughts on using their changes as a Silly Mode?

"Enabling this option causes the AI to misread your actions, causing it to spew vaguely-related nonsense." "Enabling this causes the AI to generate more nonsensical responses...", "...the AI to become senile and crazy...", "...to hallucinate...", "...skip its meds..."?

[–]throwaway112658 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If you have premium, I think the randomness slider does this sort of thing if you make it the highest

[–]justkiddingdao 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, I suppose I picked a bad time to start my free trial...

[–]FromThePodunks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Just tried it and it seems to be back to normal.

[–]CaptainAnonymous92 31 points32 points  (2 children)

I just asked Nick about this on Twitter and he said that it looks like it was a model change on OpenAIs side that's caused this to happen and he said they are working on a fix for it. Also, the reduced memory limit is a mistake and they're gonna revert it back to how it was before.

[–]FromThePodunks 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hope they mention the fix in the next update. I don't want to start anything serious until I'm sure it's fixed.

Edit: They've officially mentioned that a resolution is in progress in the latest patch notes.

Model Change Issues (In Progress): A change to the model engine on OpenAI's side caused an unintended reduction in model quality. We're working with them on fixing this issue and hope to have it resolved soon.

[–]Malendore 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Glad they have noticed at least.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (5 children)

Yeah, same problem here. I hope this will be fixed soon.

[–]PurdSurv[S] 22 points23 points  (4 children)

Same, but I have an irrational fear it won't return to what it was before. I think I'm just upset that I lost my new hobby after a week in lol.

I was getting pretty good at taming Dragon while letting it come up with ideas on its own that fit what I wanted. It was a remarkable experience seeing some of the things it managed.

[–]FromThePodunks 18 points19 points  (3 children)

I was getting pretty good at taming Dragon while letting it come up with ideas on its own that fit what I wanted. It was a remarkable experience seeing some of the things it managed.

Until about 16 hours ago I was able to push the AI in pretty much any direction I wanted, and it always adapted nicely, filling in appropriate details, no matter if I wanted to run an epic fantasy, a pirate story, a gangster story, or even something weirder like a story about a goblin factory or a town ruled by cows. I still needed to nudge it in the right direction, but the AI was telling most of the story.

Even if I just typed something simple like "You enter the temple of the Ice Priestess" without giving it any other details, it would come up with a detailed ice-themed setting on its own and keep the setting consistent for a fairly long time, and even longer with "refresh." Now I'll have to remind it almost every other action, otherwise it will become an ice cream factory or I'll suddenly be a polar bear within two sentences.

[–]bobberjobber 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds like the A.I. just needs a cleaning and reset.

[–]mcplano 0 points1 point  (1 child)

refresh?

[–]FromThePodunks 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Retry," sorry.

[–]UnexpectedVader 20 points21 points  (0 children)

This can happen, the devs like to modify models sometimes and the results can vary. We should be back to better quality soon.

[–]Gyramuur 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I’m on gryphon, which was always a bit silly, but I could usually swing it into something manageable. Today though, it’s utter garbage. Can’t get a single coherent thing happening

[–]ponieslovekittens 12 points13 points  (0 children)

it got dumber

Not the first time it's happened. Probably won't be the last.

There are ups and downs as they make adjustments.

[–]FromThePodunks 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I posted this in another thread:

Also maybe it's just me, but I've been finding it really bad at remembering and logically following through with things these last few hours. For over a week, I've been able to create interesting stories, including fairly complex ones, using the tools to keep my stories on track (and in-genre) fairly easily, but lately I've noticed the AI will get completely lost every couple of actions. I'll suddenly be on the other side during a battle, plot points will be introduced and then immediately forgotten within a couple of actions, characters will contradict themselves during the same conversation ("Hi. I'm Jack, a soldier." He says, "I'd help, but I'm not a soldier."), I'll go to visit the king and suddenly become the king, etc. I've used this long enough to know that its inevitable the story will change on you suddenly, and that more and more incongruities are going to occur the deeper you go into a story, but I've never had to retry or edit every 2-4 actions before. I've been using Dragon, but I don't even remember Griffin being as bad as Dragon has been for me during these last 16 or so hours or so. Not sure if there's a bug, or if the flaws are just becoming more and more noticeable the more I use it.

I've also noticed a lot of other stupid stuff, like some instances of really bad spelling, half-finished sentences, bad logic, childish language, and modern/l33t speak appearing in inappropriate places way more often than usual. I just became a subscriber this month as well.

Just in the last two days, I was able to run an epic story about two factions of warring knights, a story where I was a fireman accused of being a pyromaniac who goes on run from the cops, an Alice In Wonderland style fantasy that actually made sense, a vampire story where I train a new vampire how to survive in the city, and a Lovecraftian mystery/horror. After whatever update they did last night, I couldn't even run simple "kill the bandits" storylines without the AI messing up.

That said, the story I'm running right now seems to be decent, but I'm just about 10 actions in.

[–]BadOpinionGuy[🍰] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

griffin's honestly been kind of a mixed bag in terms of quality/consistency for months, but today it's just decided to generate random bullshit not even related to the prompt inputted even with memory/remember

to hear it happen with dragon as well is just kinda shite to hear, especially considering you're actually paying for it. doesn't help that they practically rubbed salt into the wound by reducing the character limit in scenarios either.

[–]ValleDeimos 8 points9 points  (6 children)

What annoys me the most is that it keeps forgetting my character's name and gender, giving it's name to other characters and inventing random ridiculous names and roles for me, switching between modern and old fantasy, and these days I was just having a nice and solid play where my character and another one were running from a temple and the AI suddenly just decided that I would be teleported to a bizarre realm and die.

[–]Ryusho 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Something about the latest model seems -hyper intent- to kill you instantly, or go into bizarre nonsense if it can't. At least in my experience with it since the accidental model change.

[–]FromThePodunks 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I ran about 5 standard Knight, Ranger, and Wizard scenarios after noticing that something was wrong with the AI. 4 of them ended up with my character being killed within 3 actions, and the 5th one ended with me finishing the quest in one action, and retiring as a blacksmith two lines later.

I've also noticed that a lot of my recent characters have been whiners who don't want to do anything, and (if I just let it run) ask about ten questions (like "Why do you want me to do this?" even if I'm a knight) before agreeing to help anyone, after which the AI will immediately forget who that person even was, and I'll suddenly be arrested by Sheriff Buckley.

[–]ValleDeimos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I posted a print yesterday of the AI killing my character in its first action. I was starting a wizard scenario, and right after it said “you are looking for the book of essence” it made someone appear and tell me I’m “the chosen one”, and then evoke a cataclysm inside me, killing me instantly.

[–]FromThePodunks 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It always forgot names and gender, jumped genres, introduced bizarre elements, or completely changed your characters role. It just wouldn't do it as often as it's been doing these last few hours. Usually a simple Retry or Edit would be enough to get it back on track for a while, but now it forgets almost immediately, and you have to use Edit and Retry every two actions to stop it from going in insane directions.

Also it can sometimes be fun when the genre jumps, or bizarre elements are introduced, but it's not even doing that properly now. Usually when my standard medieval-ish fantasy suddenly turned into, say, Star Wars/Warhammer 40K space-fantasy, the plot the AI gave me during that genre switch would make sense for at least a little while (even with Griffin). Now it just jumps all over the place almost every 2-4 actions. Earlier I had one where my character jumped from "space pirate on a mission to smuggle weapons" to "rebel soldier trying to stop the Empire to "Emperor Kyros a brutal tyrant" to "a member of the Church" using the same amount of text that wold make up about two pages in a young adult novel.

[–]c00kyc4t 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really hope they finish working on labels soon, the whole wrong gender and name thing gets really old really fast

[–]mcplano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The AI use to give me random names (or even "" and "%s"), but as I kept retrying and doing things like "/story Your name is Bob." and keeping the outputs that got my name right, it stopped using random names and started using names of characters in /memory.

Something funny that happened is that I fed it things like "Ford's name is Ford. Alice's name is Alice. Carol's name is ", it finished it with "Carol. Sam's name is Sam."

I put "Your name is " and it finished it with "You".

I think it's pretty insightful for how the AI handles names, so maybe "Alice're" would work as "Alice are", since "you're" and "you"... Or maybe the AI is just doing "remove punctuation and last letter"

[–]Ryusho 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Legit had subscribed just a day or two ago, because of how impressed I was with the trial and the dragon engine, to see them suddenly..do something that did this..made me remove the fact i was still considering letting it be recurring for now until it is fixed as it's ...it's acting so horribly bad.

[–]FromThePodunks 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Just 10 hours ago I would have said I'm going to spend the rest of the year playing this, but unless its back to normal, I'm not sure I want to spend another day.

I started a new story that seems decent so far, but I hope it lasts.

[–]LaserbeamSharks 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It's not just Dragon, either. Griffin feels just like the Collab version back in December.

[–]mcplano 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Collab version?

[–]LaserbeamSharks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Early on, AI Dungeon ran exclusively on Google Collab. It wasn't until January that the current site existed.

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[–]Blax__ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe the whole AI had a stroke?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can confirm that Griffin is screwing up too. It repeated itself multiple times and wasn't following the story. I'm sure it'll come back to normal though

[–]Higurashii 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Same thing here. I first started playing AIDungeon on Monday last week and was instantly blown away. It never repeated, it remembered everything correctly and the story made sense throughout most if not all of the time. Then suddenly since Thursday or Friday it got extremely dumb and still is. Going into a repeat loop what feels like every second story, changing my person, occupation, setting completely or ignores story content written by me in creative

[–]RocketeerRaccoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are fixing it. OpenAI changed something about their model and that's what messed it up.

[–]OpenWithRuiLopez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Update: Played it again this afternoon. The AI was performing better than on July 29-30, but now with a new wrinkle. Now the AI continues to switch genres on me, sending gunmen after a knight, teleporting me from a village forest to a forest moon, etc. This confusion is somewhat quirky and cool, buuuuuuuut when the player uses lots of effort to enter responses and commands guiding the AI to "stay in the lane" and the AI ignores this, it becomes less of a game, and more like teaching sign language to a howler monkey. IDK.

[–]RubioUlysses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just started my free trial and it doesn’t feel at all different.

[–]RocketeerRaccoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad this isn't just me.

But that's ok, it means there is problem to be fixed. It would be worse if there was no apparent problem.

[–]NocturneCZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me it felt like Griffin got today worse too, more random than usual

[–]Dimentive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like it’s finally been fixed, although Open AI is still having a few issues with GPT-3, which should also be fixed soon, according to the AI Dungeon patch notes.

[–]Henk_Henksen -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Lowering the randomness to 1.1 helped a lot for me.

[–]PurdSurv[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestion, but I've been sticking with 1.0 this whole time. It's still too random for what I'm used to, and lowering it further just makes Dragon repeat lines even more. I think I'll just wait until it goes back to normal.