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[–]RScottBakker22AMA Author R. Scott Bakker[S] 11 points12 points  (9 children)

Yes... and no. This ends the Thousandfold Thought that has obsessed me all these years. The No-God has always been part of the plan, but the future has always been, for whatever reason, fuzzy beyond the assault on Golgotterath.

I actually stopped perusing fan theories quite some time ago because I found it was jamming my own theories of where things needed to go. But recently, on the Second Apocalypse Forum people kept referring to something called the 'Baby Kellhus' theory, and though I have no damn idea what they're on about, I find it shocking and absurd.

[–]jurble 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I find it shocking and absurd.

You're the one that made Sarl say sometimes "the dead bounce!"

Who wouldn't want to read the Infancy Gospel of Kellhus?

Look this bit of the syriac infancy gospel that Vanadil quoted on Westeros

"He has said that Jesus spoke, and, indeed, when He was lying in His cradle said to Mary His mother: I am Jesus, the Son of God, the Logos, whom thou hast brought forth, as the Angel Gabriel announced to thee; and my Father has sent me for the salvation of the world."

Who wouldn't want a Baby Kellhus to give the same speech to Mimara? It's so amusing.

[–]RScottBakker22AMA Author R. Scott Bakker[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That is the creepiest, coolest thing I've heard all day! Shades of Alia!

[–]jurble 4 points5 points  (0 children)

On the off-chance you wander back to Reddit, the theory is also fairly 'neat' as well in that it actually ties together a number of strings - the old tapestry that seemingly prophecized Mimara, Sarl's aforementioned "bouncing dead", the wherefore and why of Achamian and Mimara even being at Golgotterath, and especially the question of Kellhus' prophethood or divinity.

It turns Kellhus into a true prophet that doubted his own divinity due to his own super-rationality and it turns him, the master puppeteer into a puppet of something he cannot Come Before - the Prime Mover, the God. He becomes an instrument - and everything he did, even those things he thought held little Darkness, were in fact in utter Darkness.

So, for example, I don't know why Kellhus instigated Akka and Mimara's journey to Ishual. Maybe it was to confirm its status. And maybe that's what Kellhus thought. I thought it might have been even a round-about method just to make Akka kneel, to fulfill his own prophecy way back in TTT, but you shot that down. But regardless of what Kellhus' intent was, Baby Kellhus turns it all into God's Plan and Kellhus himself into some sort of divine-will automaton, snared the entire time - hence his own, oblivious prompting of Esmenet to free Kelmomas to kill him.

And what better way for The God to finally convince Kellhus of his Divinity than to kill him and resurrect him?

Which is why I still believe! Your feigned shock does nothing to fool me! Unless it was the Greater Bakker that knew Baby Kellhus was the goal, but the Lesser Bakker balked!

[–]Tsegen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You know you've done it when you've shocked Bakker lol.

[–]WhaleAxolotl 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Apparently, some people believe Mimara's and Akka's baby is Kellhus...

[–]Madness1 2 points3 points  (2 children)

To be fair, that should rightly be attributed to the Westerosi... it just somehow bled onto SA's monument. Smdh.

[–]CodeBread 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It crossed my mind when I read TUC (prior to any forum discussion).

I mean, Kellhus dies and immediately afterward Mimara's holy baby is born. This is after a knowledge dump about the cycle of souls and how Shauriatis was staying alive. I can see why the theory took hold the way it did. I'm very happy it isn't the case, of course.

[–]Tsegen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The metaphysics drives threads a bit loopy.

[–]scrollbreak 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I find it shocking and absurd.

It's good that the fans have managed to throw a ball back and striked, then >:) :D Gives you a chance to be on the odd side of some crazy ass author(s)! :)