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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

LLLT is pretty cool. Me and a group of engineers recently created a compression sock that implements this for patients with diabetic foot/ankle ulcers for our senior design project. We programmed it with a digispark microprocessor, which is pretty small, so the whole electronics package can be affixed to the sock or belt loop.

[–]808120 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How much can I buy this for?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it costed us ~$200 in components, and 2 semesters of designing and prototyping, which was a lot of intricate work. There's no official product available for purchase or anything, but we're looking to get it patented, so maybe we'll see it on the market one day..

[–]killword-noot 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I've been thinking about trying to measure my results from LLLT but I'm not sure there's any way I'd be able to blind. The only thing I can think of (that I would be able to do) is using a home automation device of some sort. I'm sure there's some open source code available to do this; in fact, I think there used to be a section of the linux kernel to support something like this to automate appliances like coffeemakers. It'd be pretty easy to modify something like that but it would still require some amount of hardware.

[–]gwerngwern.net[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yeah. In http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/72558-lllt-usage-correlates-with-productivity/ one dude suggests a Belkin wireless-enabled power switch, which could be scripted by a program or website/service. That would work, but the thing is like $50 and I balk a bit at spending that much on a fully-programmable power switch when all I need is a little randomized switch+indicator.

[–]aleph32 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe a low-tech solution: get three extension cords and a cardboard box. One extension cord goes from the outlet into the cardboard box. The other two extension cords come out of the cardboard box, from holes labeled A and B. Have someone else open the box, randomly connect the input cord to one of the output cords, and seal up the box. Your computer can then generate a sequence of A and B choices from a random number generator. You use whatever output cord is chosen for that day. When you need to know which one corresponds to "on" and which corresponds to "off" you can open the box and look.

The only real problem is that you do see the sequence of A and B choices (without knowing what they correspond to).

[–]samlljc 1 point2 points  (1 child)

"In late July 2013, I was cleaning up my rooms and was tired of LLLT, so I decided to chuck the LED device."

Was a little confused when I got to this part.. lol

[–]gwerngwern.net[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whups. Even Homer nods. (It still amazes me it's 2014 sometimes - guys, we live in the future!)

[–]Rage_Boner 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How would you rate this vs tDCS?

[–]gwerngwern.net[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I've never used tDCS, so I have no idea. The tDCS papers I've read generally focus on training specific tasks.

[–]3AlarmLampscooter 0 points1 point  (1 child)

rTMS...

[–]gwerngwern.net[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

rTMS isn't an option until the devices are much smaller and cheaper and more foolproofed.