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Rugby union[edit]

Henri Boshoff[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 19:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect (no list for Zimbabwean internationals currently exits) per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hein Potgieter[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 19:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Could only really find this. More needed for a WP:GNG pass. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Beerwinkel[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. I found three sentences of coverage here. JTtheOG (talk) 19:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Lots of team announcements etc, but struggling to see anything else to suggest a WP:GNG pass. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vian van der Watt[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 03:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete A few bits in profiles of his previous U20 appearances, but probably not enough to pass WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pieter Stemmet[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 03:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Logan Basson[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 20:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD, although if a section was added to his brother Bjorn Basson then could perhaps be redirected there. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Francois Esterhuyzen[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this routine news piece and a few interviews in Russian-language media (1, 2, 3). JTtheOG (talk) 20:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I think there's enough in the Russian coverage to suggest a weak keep for WP:GNG. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inus Kritzinger[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. There are a few sentences of coverage here. JTtheOG (talk) 19:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:57, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Bezuidenhout[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 19:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Most of the coverage just tends to be squad and team announcements. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:57, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pieter Louw[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 19:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete A few match reports, but coverage does seem to be limited to them. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:55, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heinrich Steyl[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 17:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Milo Nqoro[edit]

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Redirect to List of South Africa national rugby sevens players as I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 03:26, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of South Africa national rugby sevens players Looks to fail WP:GNG. Redirect is a suitable WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jacques Alberts[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. I'm thinking he goes by a nickname because I found an astonishingly low amount of hits. JTtheOG (talk) 23:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Cook[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this transactional announcement. JTtheOG (talk) 23:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Lots of coverage, but I'm not sure there's enough to suggest a WP:ATD pass. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:21, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soane Asi[edit]

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Can't find references on Google. Doesn't meet WP:SPORTBASIC Shinadamina (talk) 14:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. The only reliable information for him is on this ESPN page, that provides a mediocre amount of information. Other than that I couldn't find any reliable sources on him. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1^{(The Garage)} 14:48, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found some more information KoreanDragon (talk) 20:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: ESPN is about the extent of coverage. Some unrelated linkedin posts, nothing else for notability I can find. Oaktree b (talk) 22:35, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Linkedin profile stated that it was him, as seen in the info.

"My name is Soane Asi being working as Lab Technician for Winstone for 23 years migrates from the Kingdom of Tonga 1987 after the very first Rugby World Cup where I represent Tonga I play as an Utility Backs from 2nd Five eight to Full Back but I play my first game on wing against Canada.

Back Home I work for the ministry of Works as a Technical Officers for 8 years. Graduate with a Civil Engineering Diploma on Road Constructions 2 years Study on Ministry of Works Courses." KoreanDragon (talk) 10:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Tonga national rugby union players Some sourcing exists, but difficult to judge whether it would pass WP:GNG with offline coverage, redirect is a suitable WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Justin Benn[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 23:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lindelwe Zungu[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 18:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:48, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jéan Rossouw[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 20:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep Couple of bits here, here and here which I think make it worth a weak keep. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 08:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete on account of the serious dearth of sources denoting notability. The ones provided above by RugbyFan22 are two routine listings of players, plus one nostalgia-cum-trivia article titled "Where Are They Now". We cannot construct notability on such thin ground. Otherwise, Wikipedia would be a collection of random information. -The Gnome (talk) 17:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cecil Dumond[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 17:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete A few team announcement bits, but not enough for a WP:GNG pass. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:05, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Duwayne Smart[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 17:15, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:04, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Josh Katzen[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 17:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:04, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Joe van der Hoogt[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 17:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:45, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom. I can't also find a possible redirect. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Bolze[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 16:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:45, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tiaan Dorfling[edit]

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Rugby BLP that fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 16:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Looks to fail WP:GNG. No suitable redirect per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:45, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Joshua Stander[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. I found a few pieces with a handful of mentions (1, 2, 3), but nothing significant. There are also trivial mentions in Japanese, which you can see by searching ジョシュア・スタンダー. JTtheOG (talk) 22:41, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep I think there's enough in English language and Japanese coverage for a weak keep here. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It will be helpful if you can cite most of them here. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Sourcing is trivial and/or routine transactional reports, nothing independent and in depth. JoelleJay (talk) 01:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tango Balekile[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. The most I found were a handful of sentences here. JTtheOG (talk) 17:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep There's this, this and this found in a simple search. Enough for a GNG pass I think. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first two sources are ok, but are from the same day and about the same topic, while the third source has 3-ish IRS sentences and so is pretty far from being the sustained SIGCOV expected for N. Can you find more sources? JoelleJay (talk) 16:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not enough coverage for a comprehensive independent biography IMO. JoelleJay (talk) 01:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alandré van Rooyen[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was routine transfer news (1, 2). JTtheOG (talk) 23:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete Absolutely heaps of coverage, but the majority of it is transactional, a bit of a surprise given he played in the English top league, but heyho. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Week Keep - Found this should pass WP:BASIC

[1], [2], [3], [4]. Otbest (talk) 19:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: 1 is a primary source. 2 is a duplicate of 4, which is a routine transactional announcement with two sentences of coverage. 3 is a routine transactional announcement with two sentences of coverage. Even BASIC requires significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources. JTtheOG (talk) 19:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keepa Mewett[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a New Zealand rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 23:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep There's this and a fair few other bits on his rugby career, and then a fair bit also on his post-rugby career. Worth a weak keep in my opinion. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, though I was initially leaning toward a delete some research shows the BoP Times profile, and other articles about being selected to play internationally as part of the Māori All Blacks. Its thin but I think it is enough. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 08:32, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. He captained the Bay of Plenty side and played for the Māori All Blacks. As well as the Bay of Plenty Times profile, there is this profile from the Manawatu Standard during his stint playing for Manawatū, and this podcast that profiles his life journey. Paora (talk) 03:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per WP:HEY. I will insist the sources per se be incorporated into the article. All the best. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:55, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matteo Zanusso[edit]

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Redirect to List of Italy national rugby union players as I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject to meet WP:GNG. The most I found was a few sentences here, which would not suffice. JTtheOG (talk) 17:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep Think there's enough in Italian wikipedia and Italian sourcing for a weak keep, would have no issue with redirecting if deemed not. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Italy national rugby union players: perfect redirecting instead of deletion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:03, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Corné Weilbach[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. There's a couple sentences here. JTtheOG (talk) 20:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep There's also this along with what we already have, just about worth a weak keep in my opinion currently, especially as a young player who's career is starting to kickoff. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Maybe go back to draft and try to look/add more contet here and then resubmit. MaskedSinger (talk) 07:41, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sione Fonua[edit]

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Fan sites and blogs are generally not regarded as reliable sources. Shinadamina (talk) 19:00, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggest a procedural keep as no rationale for deletion has been presented. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/weak keep There's coverage of his World Cup appearances, and his post playing career in law. I think there's enough here for a keep. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rugbyfan22 The coverage I see are stats pages and mentions. I do not see any in-depth coverage on the individual which is needed to show notability. If you see such coverage, please post the links. Shinadamina (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I had a good dig and didn't turn up anything that establishes notability. I have a feeling given his post-rugby career in law and Tongan politics there might be good sources in the Tongan language, but I wasn't able to unearth any. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 08:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: There is credible a good impact of this article. Though it doesn't satisfy WP:SIGCOV and the sources were few of database results. I am quite certain that the article individual exists and has been covered in little coverage this, and others. A redirect/draftify should work better here against deletion. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 19:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. As well as his rugby playing career, which included playing in all four of Tonga's matches at the 2003 Rugby World Cup, he became a prominent lawyer in Tonga, serving as president of the Tongan Law Society and as a member of the 2009 Tongan Constitutional and Electoral Commission. He was a founder and president of the Paati Langafonua Tu'uloa (Sustainable Nation-Building Party), and was a candidate in Tongan general elections in 2008, 2010 and 2014. Paora (talk) 11:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Diogo Gama[edit]

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Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Fails WP:SPORTBASIC Shinadamina (talk) 07:57, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggest a procedural keep as no rationale for deletion has been presented. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:03, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep: WP:CSK#1 applies as no deletion rationale has been presented. Let'srun (talk) 21:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize, I have added the rationale now. Shinadamina (talk) 07:57, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2007 Rugby World Cup squads#Portgual Featured at a World Cup and for a minor nation, struggling to see suitable sourcing but there maybe more offline. Redirect a suitable WP:ATD for now. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. A week has not passed since the rationale was added. It should have been there the moment the AfD was posted, not tagged on later. This should have been closed immediately for lack of rationale. The original lack of rationale suggests WP:BEFORE issue. The lack of rationale other than noting lack of sources, including failure to discuss notability, still suggests WP:BEFORE issue. Do we know anything about the individual covered by the article? Did the nominator "take reasonable steps to search for reliable sources"? Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 03:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have searched google and unable to find proper news articles on this individual. If you can find any, please post here.Shinadamina (talk) 18:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 2007 Rugby World Cup squads#Portgual per above.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:07, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gonçalo Foro[edit]

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All available citations are profiles. Does not meet WP:NSPORT. Shinadamina (talk) 19:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Extensive career, albeit for a minor nation, however a simple search is bringing up coverage. I imagine there will highly likely be more offline or not easily accessible non-English language sourcing. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:54, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please share 2 or 3 reliable sources that have in-depth coverage on the person. We cannot assume reliable sources from the past can be found. We need to find them. Having an extensive career is not sufficient, unless there is such a WP policy which I am not aware of. If so, please link to the said policy. Shinadamina (talk) 04:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you link them here. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We also don't give weight of location, because there maybe system bias from you saying "of a minor nation". Maybe I misunderstood that and still will need correction. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: BLP article fails GNG, ANYBIO, and WP:SPORTSPERSON which was recently revised for this exact situation and requires at least one independent reliable source which directly details the subject. BusterD (talk) 07:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No established form of notability. Doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Martín Gaitán[edit]

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All citations are profiles. No news coverage can be found. Does not meet WP:NSPORT. Shinadamina (talk) 20:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Not sure a proper WP:BEFORE has been done on this one. A simple search is bringing up WP:GNG passing sourcing, and foreign Wikipedias also have sourcing. Given his career with a number of caps and World Cup appearances as well as playing in Europe this isn't particularly surprising. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please share 2 or 3 reliable sources that have in-depth coverage on the person. We cannot assume reliable sources from the past can be found. We need to find them. Appearances in World Cup are not sufficient, unless there is such a WP policy which I am not aware of. If so, please link to the said policy. Shinadamina (talk) 04:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I find a bit of coverage for a blind football player [5], but there is no coverage for this rugby person. Delete for a lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 23:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: French wiki article lists what seem to be newspaper stories about this person, but there are no online links to them, so I can't evaluate how good they are. Oaktree b (talk) 23:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lean Keep, per the offline sources at the French Wikipedia and per Rugbyfan22. The titles seem to translate to "Gaïtan: 'hope'", "The pleasure of Gaïtan", "Martin Gaitan, the miraculous", and "The eye of Martin Gaitan", all of which, based on the titles, appear to be highly likely significant coverage. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per WP:HEY. This is the difference between the article at nomination and in its current much improved condition. I'm going to accept the presented sources from the French Wikipedia in good faith, and trust the article there will be improved. BusterD (talk) 08:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Coaches and sports managers are likely to be notable. On that basis, per WP:HEY leaning on considering the article which has been developed. Maybe ther was a bit WP:BEFORE bypass by the nominator. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lotu Filipine[edit]

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All available citations are profiles. Does not meet WP:NSPORT. Only one brief article exists [here https://www.looptonga.com/business/lotu-filipine-wins-500-cash-digicel-tonga-easter-promotion-91903], which is not enough. Shinadamina (talk) 19:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: the article I linked to, is not even about his career and may not be him. Shinadamina (talk) 19:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There's also a sexual harassment incident when he was captain of the Tonga under-21 team [6]. There should be more on this, but it would require digging in NewzText, which I don't have access to. IdiotSavant (talk) 13:10, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep World Cup player and a simple search is bringing up WP:GNG passing coverage. There is likely more coverage offline also from the time of his career and locations of his playing career. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 18:29, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please share 2 or 3 reliable sources that have in-depth coverage on the person. We cannot assume reliable sources from the past can be found. We need to find them. Appearances in World Cup are not sufficient, unless there is such a WP policy which I am not aware of. If so, please link to the said policy. Shinadamina (talk) 04:22, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Tonga national rugby union players.Lacks WP:SIGCOV for standalone article.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Tonga national rugby union players as suggested above. None of the sources applied, presented or found brings this subject past WP:SPORTSPERSON which specifies at least one reliable source directly detailing the subject. BusterD (talk) 08:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Tonga national rugby union players: Doesn't fully meet WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:SIGCOV, hence, I agree to redirect. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Tonga national rugby union players: Doesn't meet WP:SPORTSCRIT or WP:SIGCOV, per Safari Scribe. History6042 (talk) 20:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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