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Jason Thompson (figure skater)[edit]

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Non-notable figure skater despite one national championship win (for Great Britain). Nothing since retirement. Google search yields nothing but wikis, scoring databases, and one article mentioning that the European Championships where he finished in 25th place were held at the same rink where he trained. Big whoop. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge or redirect I deprodded this with the rationale "This should be merged or redirected, but there are several plausible targets and I don't know enough about the topic area to unilaterally decide which is best." and I stand by that comment. I oppose straight deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amanda Nylander[edit]

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Non-notable figure skater who fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level does not meet the standards of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. PROD removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page:

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Keep: Both subjects seem to meet the GNG with the Skate Today article already in the article, which provides WP:SIGCOV, along with native language sources such as [[1]]. Let'srun (talk) 14:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. In addition to what Let'srun has pointed out above, I've expanded the article a little bit, building on Swedish news sources. /Julle (talk) 19:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Julles additions AlexandraAVX (talk) 05:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guan Xueting[edit]

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Non-notable figure skater who fails WP:NSKATE; bronze/silver medal placements at the national championship level do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Devora Radeva[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level does not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tatsuya Tanaka (figure skater)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level does not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per the discussion below, this AFD can be closed as Speedy keep as I withdraw the nomination. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: I found some Chinese sources which mentioned he won champion in the senior level of 2007 Hong Kong Figure Skating And Short Track Speed Skating Championships (where the national-level Hong Kong Figure Skating Championships is a part of; see Oriental Daily News[2]), so as a national figure skating champion, the subject person already fulfills the second criterion of WP:NSKATE. I also found additional sources which mentioned him representing Hong Kong in the Asian Open Figure Skating Trophy and Asian Winter Games (See The Sun[3] and China Central Television[4]), although I consider them as passing mentions and may not be able to pass GNG. Nonetheless, I think passing WP:NSKATE is already sufficient for me to vote for a keep, at least not a delete. And I suggest the nominator can do some WP:BEFORE searches for sources in the subject person's native languages before filing for deletions. This seems like the third time for me to vote for a figure skater article nominated by the same editor. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 12:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see no evidence that he won a gold medal at the Hong Kong Figure Skating Championships. His ISU profile shows no placement at the 2007 championships. He did win the silver medal on three separate occasionas, but a silver medal at a national-level championship does not meet the standards of WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Bgsu98: Hi Bgsu. Please check the Oriental Daily News source I attached. The title reads "The heavily favoured Tatsuya Tanaka wins Champion", and the body goes "The Hong Kong Figure Skating And Short Track Speed Skating Championships have concluded successfully. The Japanese-Chinese mixed Tatsuya Tanaka, who will represent Hong Kong at the Asian Winter Games, was the hot favorite and won champion in the men's division..." (香港花樣滑冰及短道速滑錦標賽圓滿結束，即將代表香港出戰亞洲冬季運動會的日中混血兒田中達也，大熱贏得男子組冠軍...) Oriental Daily News is an established and mainstream newspaper in Hong Kong, and is generally regarded as a reliable source for non-political and non-advertorial content in zhwiki through consensus. (See the zhwiki's List of Perennial sources) I am not sure why it was not recorded on his ISU profile, and why this discrepancy aroused. (Please enlighten me if you find out the reasons behind) But since no discussion in the enwiki had deemed Oriental untrustworthy, so I don't see why this source is questionable in this case and I tend to trust the independent and secondary RS. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 01:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  That's interesting. I did see the article you cited and ran it through a translator. No idea why a first-place win would have been left off this skater's ISU profile. Nor is he cited on the Hong Kong Figure Skating Championships chart for men's singles. I checked another reliable figure skating site, but they have no records for any of the Hong Kong championships. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  
  Prince of Erebor Okay, I have added both skaters named in the article to the charts on the Hong Kong Figure Skating Championships article. I cannot find sourcing elsewhere, but I'm guessing 2008 was just when someone at Wikipedia started to keep track and no one bothered to go backwards. This AFD can be closed as Speedy keep. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Bgsu98: Yea, I was thinking the same thing. After searching, I found some articles, as well as the ISU database you cited, recorded the Skating Championships dating back to at least 2003. However, the Hong Kong Skating Union website and Wikipedia only listed results up to 2008. It seems there was no systematic online archive of the championship results prior to 2008. Thanks for updating the article as well! I have made some minor corrections though, since Hong Kong uses Cantonese rather than Mandarin, the source should be labeled as written in Chinese, and the skater's name should be romanized using Jyutping instead of Mandarin pinyin. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 17:10, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I never studied any languages east of Europe, so I'll trust your judgment! Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Akiko Kitamura[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level does not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wun-Chang Shih[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. No international medal placements at all. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. PROD removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Plenty of Chinese sources with SIGCOV (eg, Liberty Times[5], [6], Central News Agency [7], My Formosa [zh][8]). His coaching career has also received media coverage (eg, TVBS News[9], Mirror Media[10], Central News Agency[11], [12]) —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 09:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sarah-Marine Rouffanche[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Subject fails WP:GNG and is not saved by WP:NCREATIVE. An ice dancer who qualified for the World Junior Championship's free dance competition and finished 15th: an achievement truly admirable by this humble servant, but insufficient for a Wikipedia article. Whence the required numerous, independent sources? -The Gnome (talk) 13:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Subject does not meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 14:34, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Zsolt Kosz[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I don't know much about WP:NSKATE but for WP:SPORTSBIO and WP:GNG, this is not notable. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:38, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wang Meng (figure skater)[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep there is sufficient independent coverage.--Wish for Good (talk) 04:13, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wish for Good, are you going to share with the rest of the class or should we just take your word for it? Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Siobhan McColl[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There isn't any credible source to meet WP:GNG. The gross lacking in WP:SIGCOV made it difficult in popping any result for WP:RS. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 19:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Natalia Mitsuoka[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:36, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Subject meets the WP:GNG with the SkateToday article already in the article in addition to [[13]]. Let'srun (talk) 13:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Danny Moir[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Subject meets the WP:GNG with sources such as [[14]], [[15]] and [[16]]. Let'srun (talk) 13:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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William Nagle (figure skater)[edit]

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An obit here, as well as coverage in the New York Times here and here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:03, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Per source presented by Beanie fan. I think it's unusual nominating articles because they are short. WP:NSKATE is an additional Wikipedia policy. If per the sources they the articles won those awards, then he meets WP:ANYBIO and sources per WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. please do run WP:BEFORE and not bypass it. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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George Braakman[edit]

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Keep: Subject has some decent coverage at [[17]] and [[18]]. Not a ton here but probably enough to pass the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 14:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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