Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Metropolitan Police Office

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 07:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Metropolitan Police Office[edit]

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Completely unsourced and I cannot find a single source substantiating the existence of this office. Elshad (talk) 21:04, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Police and England. Elshad (talk) 21:04, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Metropolitan Police as was done in 2009. Mccapra (talk) 21:46, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 23:56, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Merge. In fact, there are numerous references to the MPO in The Times, for instance. Thousands. A Google search also turns up plenty of references to the MPO. So I have great difficulty in accepting the nominator's statement that they couldn't find "a single source substantiating the existence of this office". Merging the article to Metropolitan Police#Governance would probably be fine, but deleting it and claiming there are no available sources is clearly a very poor option. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:07, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This article isn't about the current Met. It is about a defunct government department which probably did exist at some point (per Google Scholar results, mainly paywalled), but without any clues as to when and how it was created, or when it ceased to exist (c.1830?). Anyone reading the article would be unable to use it as a launching point for further research as there is zero sourcing. Merging it into Metropolitan Police would just be passing the trash to another page, due to the lack of sourcing. Oblivy (talk) 03:49, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article isn't about the current Met. Why is this relevant? Actually, the MPO existed from the creation of the Met until 2000. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What I was suggesting was that the fact that the Metropolitan Police show up in search results is not necessarily proof there are references to the Metropolitan Police Office. I searched and did not find them. Maybe you did better than I did and could share the results of your search?

Note that the article did not give any dates at the time I made my comment (my reference to c.1830 was because I had done some searches and knew a structural reform was made around that time). You added the claim about 1829-2000 yesterday, without prividing a citation. If there's support for your claim it should be added to the article. Oblivy (talk) 00:00, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails GNG and NORG. Article is unsourced so there is nothing to merge, I don't see this as a particularly good redirect, but if there is a consensus I have no objection to one. // Timothy :: talk 05:25, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.