- Alternatively, they are capable of sexual reproduction among themselves, but not with other species. They just rape humans for fun.
- Squick.
- Queens are completely asexual: they never mate. Novels and comics are often contradictory and so can't be relied on (Ripley coming Back from the Dead twice is a good example). This probably includes the scene where the Newborn attempts to rape Ripley 8 in the novelization, although it was pretty sick.
- No, the "rape" scene wasn't cut from the first movie. There was an offscreen moment in Alien where the monster is heavily implied to rape Lambert. Its tail is seen moving up her leg, she is heard screaming over the intercom, and the last shot of her is of her blood-covered naked leg hanging from the ceiling. The actress stated that her character was raped in interviews, and the director stated that the creature had acquired "desires" from Kane's psyche.
- Perhaps the alien was mounting her to prove its "dominance" the way male and female dogs do.
- Perhaps the alien on the Nostromo was male (drones are Always Male?) and was planning on impregnating Lambert with a queen, saving Brett and Dallas as future hosts on the way back to Earth. We're never actually sure they're turning into eggs, since they're cocooned like the colonists at Hadley's Hope were.
- How would such a pregnancy work? Like Species? Unfortunately, we already saw the same thing happen in ''AVP:R''.
- Or it was doing it for fun. Squick!
- Ridley Scott never really used the idea that the Xenomorphs are ant-like "drones" who have a "queen". This is James Cameron's idea, and it wasn't present in the first film or in Prometheus. By all accounts, the alien on the Nostromo was exactly what H.R. Giger implied it to be - a rape-monster that absorbed all the worst desires of its host (a human male).
- Someone actually wrote a fanfiction called Aliens Versus Serenity that involved River becoming literally impregnated with an alien queen. By a facehugger. No, it's not what it sounds like, you perverts. The embryo was deposited through her mouth and ended up in her uterus. The story violated canon in lots of other ways, though, and added some pointless new characters with no explanation.
- H.R. Giger himself has confirmed that the alien is male, complete with equipment. He didn't come out and say this: he drew it. Sil even made an appearance with it. That puts poor Lambert's plight in a whole new light.
- Considering the biological weapon WMG, this may very well be the case. The facehuggers are the method of infecting other species, one time use to get one drone-hybrid. Drones then could very well mate with their "host" species to speed up infestation.
- Now, you may be asking yourself: "What good would replacing one enemy with an even stronger and more dangerous one do?" Well, the Xenomorphs would be landlocked and unable to use (external) weapons. Bombardment from a safe distance would work more smoothly on them than it would on a sentient technological race ("It's the only way to be sure."}, for they'll have no anti-aircraft missiles. Not to mention they stick closely to their hives with only a few scouts out for more hosts/food. It is easier to replace a spread out population of tens of billions to one of billions that reside in large hives that are easy to spot and destroy with orbital bombardment. Also, the Aliens have a really short life-cycle, or at least they did in the first film. By the end of the film, when it's hiding in the shuttle and not doing a hell of a lot when Ripley disturbs it, it's getting ready to die. Or is just sleepy - it had a long and busy day after all. And in Aliens they're in hibernation as there is a distinct lack of human hosts for them. Only a few are active, and at night (mostly); otherwise Newt would have been long dead.
- There's also the fact if you can genetically engineer the Xenomorphs into existence, you can potentially build in any number of hidden weaknesses you can use to get rid of them. The Space Jockeys probably had some tailored anti-Xenomorph chemical weapon they could just use to flood the zone after the Xenos had done their work of wrecking their enemy's colony. And that's if you assume the Space Jockeys want the planets they've bombed; area denial might be the more important concern.
- Maybe the race that developed them put a biological receptor into them so a signal could be sent out to destroy the whole hive without bloodshed - or immobilize them en masse. This device is probably long lost to history though... or the Weyland/Yutani corporation salvaged it from the derelict.
- Ridley Scott mentions this in his DVD commentary. The derelict was a bomber used for egg delivery.
- I guess we'll find out when Prometheus premieres...
- According to Prometheus, it seems that the Jockeys are bent on destroying all sapient life from the cosmos for reasons unknown, using numerous bioweapons, including the xenomorphs. What their motivation could be is a total mystery, but they seem to utterly suck at internal security protocols.
- I guess we'll find out when Prometheus premieres...
- So, if the Aliens have acid instead of blood, does that mean the predators' blood is a base?
- That makes "If it bleeds, we can kill it" rather bitterly ironic.
- Even more so once you consider that bases are just as corrosive as acids. (e.g. Fight Club lye incident)
- That makes "If it bleeds, we can kill it" rather bitterly ironic.
- Alternately, the Predators were once a slave race that rebelled and the Aliens were bred to destroy them.
- This theory reminds me of the background stories of the Protoss and Zerg from Starcraft.
- This troper and his brother believed that the Predators created the Xenomorphs as the perfect hunting game. This would coincide with the "The Xenomorphs are a biological weapon" theory mentioned above.
- At least one of the Alien vs. Predator novels had a plot based around this, where the Predators hunted the Aliens they had dropped in themselves as some sort of initiation rite, not counting on it being a human colony.
- The Dark Horse novels advanced the theory that the Space Jockeys (the creators of the Alien) once visited the Predator homeworld. The ship was captured by the Predators, who then reverse engineered it to create a technologically advanced civilization. This neatly explains why a culture with more advanced technology than our own has a culture closer to hunter-gatherers, but it doesn't explain why the Predator technology is not biological in nature like Space Jockey technology.
- Furthermore, when the Predators first encountered the Aliens, they got the bright idea to use them as game animals for their rites of passage. And when they encountered humans, they set themselves up as gods and have since used Earth as an hunting ground even after their cults died out long ago.
- That similarity doesn't have to mean they're literally related to cnidarians, any more than their parasitoid gestation makes them related to wasps. Even on Earth, alternation of generations is hardly unique to jellyfish. Look out your window, and you'll see thousands of organisms that alternate between one form and another, with every generation: we call them "plants".
- In Superman comics, an Xenomorph-like creature called Kancer came out of Superman. It was born from a kryptonite-induced tumour.
- This also fits with how a clone of Ripley still develops a Queen.
- This is disproved rather graphically in Requiem. Although that movie had a lot of problems.
- It's still possible the developing embryo uses a virus to prevent the host's immune system from attacking it. It would pretty much have to use specialized viruses to both sample the host's DNA and alter the host to suit them. This also opens the horrifying possibility that if a person who was previously a host has children, then his or her children will eventually develop their own chestbursters without having to be attacked by facehuggers. If that's the case, Ripley 8 is in for a horrible surprise if she ever tries to start a family.
- Ripley 8 is part-xenomorph and has acid blood. I doubt any pregnancy is going to go smoothly.
- It's still possible the developing embryo uses a virus to prevent the host's immune system from attacking it. It would pretty much have to use specialized viruses to both sample the host's DNA and alter the host to suit them. This also opens the horrifying possibility that if a person who was previously a host has children, then his or her children will eventually develop their own chestbursters without having to be attacked by facehuggers. If that's the case, Ripley 8 is in for a horrible surprise if she ever tries to start a family.
- But, wait....didn't one of the facehuggers impregnate a DOG (Ox if you watch the Director's Cut} in the third movie? Likewise, the alien in the first movie most likely attacked humans because it saw them as a bigger threat than a cat. Which is more likely to kill you if you were a Xenomorph: a cat whose only defences are sharp claws and teeth, or a highly-intelligent life-form that has the brains, resources, and weaponry available to easily dispatch you?
- It ignored Jonesey because a kitty is too small to support a Chestburster. As a hive organism, its reproductive urge is stronger than individual survival instincts; it seeks hosts first and foremost, with threat level being a secondary consideration.
- But, wait....didn't one of the facehuggers impregnate a DOG (Ox if you watch the Director's Cut} in the third movie? Likewise, the alien in the first movie most likely attacked humans because it saw them as a bigger threat than a cat. Which is more likely to kill you if you were a Xenomorph: a cat whose only defences are sharp claws and teeth, or a highly-intelligent life-form that has the brains, resources, and weaponry available to easily dispatch you?
- Alien has the titular monster being brought aboard a ship (though the crew doesn't know it) because the evil corporation wants a live specimen to study. The alien spends most of its time attacking anyone on a ship it views as a threat since, well, everyone (except for Ash) is trying to kill it.
- Tell that to Lambert. The Alien is clearly malicious and sadistic when it goes for her, putting its tail between her legs as she moans in fear.
- To be fair, Veronica Cartwright stated on the audio commentary of the film that the original version of events in the film was that after Parker was killed by the alien, Ripley finds Lambert in the same locker that she, Parker and Brett found Jonesy The Cat in earlier in the film, having died from fright after escaping from the alien and hiding. She explained that she didn't even know that her character was 'raped' by the Alien until she saw it at the premiere. The leg you see the tail wrap around in the theatrical cut and the director's cut is actually Brett's leg from the earlier scene when he is attacked by the Alien (Lambert wears cowboy boots throughout her time in the film and the leg you see is wearing low-cut white Chuck Taylors like Brett is wearing). Also, in a cut version of the scene with Ash's head on the table originally had dialogue where Ash actually accuses the crew of not making an attempt to try to communicate with it. The scene was reshot due to Scott not liking how the android insides looked, and the dialogue was re-written). So, it is within plausibility that it originally was meant to come off as such.
- Tell that to Lambert. The Alien is clearly malicious and sadistic when it goes for her, putting its tail between her legs as she moans in fear.
- Aliens had the space-marines sent down to a space-colony crawling with aliens to destroy the monsters because they wiped out the human population there. Okay, fair enough....until you realize that it was HUMANS who brought the aliens to the colony in the first place.
- And, again, we have the evil corporation (that is, Weyland-Yutani) trying to get a live specimen to study and possibly use as a sort of biological weapon.
- The Dog-Alien AKA "Runner Alien" from Alien 3 was only trying to protect the queen-chestburster inside Ripley. It's no different from when a colony of ants or bees attacks someone/something intruding on their nest to protect their queen.
- Alien Resurrection has the old "Let's study them" routine again. Yes, let's study the highly-aggressive extra-terrestrial life-forms. What's the worst that could happen?
- In all fairness, Resurrection implies the species has been extinct for two centuries because of Ripley's efforts, meaning there's nothing left but ghost stories to go on.
- The first Alien vs. Predator indicates that the Predators BREED (and possibly capture) queen aliens just so they can force them to lay eggs. Why? Oh, nothing, except to use as a rite of passage for teenage Predators in which those teenagers must prove themselves worthy by KILLING a full-grown alien or the imprisoned queen.
- After I finished watching that movie, I came to the same conclusion: Predators are in fact true villains. They breed Aliens using human sacrifices as Aliens' host bodies, just so they can hunt them down as their twisted sadistic sport. Many ancient human civilizations are destroyed in the process. The Aliens are just wild animals, acting on their instincts for survival. The "civilized" Predators, on the other hand, are nothing but a bunch of aristocratic bastards. And humans are just hapless victims caught between both sides.
- AVP: Requiem has a Predator spaceship containing facehuggers crash-land onto earth. Again, the facehuggers weren't on that ship of their own will.
- In the novelisation of the first film, the scene in which Ash is interrogated by Ripley implies this interpretation pretty strongly, and Ripley herself advances a similar view a few times over the series. The Xenomorphs aren't evil, they're just predators doing what comes naturally in order to survive. The problem is that what comes naturally to them is rather horrible for their victims, i.e. us. It's not too dissimilar to Jaws really. The shark was just doing what it did, but that posed a threat to the humans, so they fought back. Same deal here. However it's worth noting that while the Xenomorphs are indeed arguably the victims of the series, that doesn't make them any less terrifying or deadly.
- This is more or less why the Aliens are some of the scariest monsters. There is no motive that can be exploited by humans in order to stop this kind of behaviour. It is Primal Fear incarnate; the fear of an animal that is trying to kill you (though in this series, it is also trying to rape you like a lethal variant of botfly.)
Related to the 'the Aliens are the victims' theory above, something we need to remember is that the queen of the hive, at least, is intelligent. Granted the aliens we've seen have been monsters that hunted humans, with a horrifying reproductive cycle. But consider the aliens we've seen: the alien in the first film was a drone, which appear to be nonsentient due to their willingness to Zerg Rush. Without a queen, it was simply operating on its (very very lethal) instincts. Then in Aliens, we have a queen who is essentially a feral child: we never learn at what point the swarm of drones overtaking the colony developed a queen, but it must have been after the first drones started hatching. From the time she was born she was fighting humans, and shortly thereafter she was entirely alone. Small wonder she went insane: you could almost parallel her situation to Newt's, except that Newt was 'older'. In the third it's just drones again, and in the fourth the queen had been raised in a lab being experimented on and tortured. In that case she wasn't too innocent to know better, she had LEARNED that Humans Are the Real Monsters. But raising xenomorphs using animals as hosts, and actually raising the Queen instead of letting her grow up a Psychopathic Manchild with good reason to hate humans, might work out just fine. As long as the queen agrees that you can't use people as hosts there's really no more problem: she can raise other Queens herself, and the aliens can actually form a society with humans and each other (on a hive to hive basis). It's like Digger says: someone must teach them to be good.
- I assumed the queen in Aliens was alive and well in the Space Jockey's ship during the events of Alien, she was just hibernating since the planet was barren.
- I assumed that possibility too. But why would there be a queen present on what's essentially an innerstellar bomber plane that's already loaded with potentially thousands of eggs?
- I assumed the queen in Aliens was alive and well in the Space Jockey's ship during the events of Alien, she was just hibernating since the planet was barren.
The Tyranids are a hyperevolutionary race - they adjust and adapt to any and all threats after they've been identified by hurling wave after wave of expendable 'nids at whatever obstacle they're facing. They've been strongly implied to have swept other galaxies clean of biomass to consume. What if they missed a couple of worlds and left a few Lictors lying around? What manner of killing machine would they eventually evolve into? Small nests of Tyranids are hardly unknown in the 40K universe. The Alien Queens descended from Hive Tyrants and Tyranid warriors in an attempt to re-establish the Hive-Mind, while the drones are the descendants of Gaunts. Come the 41st Millenium, the 'nids proper will return and begin the cycle anew.
- It could be a Post Time War Eight, driven mad by the end of the War.
- We don't even actually see him die in the Re-Cut, either. Presumably he got eaten when he went into the shadows, but you never know. Maybe that's how he actually regenerated into Nine — it would partially explain why Nine is the way he is, in addition to the Time War.
- As of the 50th anniversary, we have seen Eight regenerate... into John Hurt. The Doctor doesn't seem to have much luck against Xenomorphs, does he?
- Unfortunately, this creates about as many problems as it solves. The equation E=m*(c^2) shows that for the xenomorph to gain one kilogram of mass (roughly 2.2 pounds), it would have to absorb 90 quadrillion joules of energy, which is 25 billion kilowatt-hours. To get to a full 100 pounds, it would have to absorb over a trillion kilowatt-hours of energy.
- Alternatively, they may be able to absorb mass through other means than eating. According to some sources, the Aliens are at least partially inorganic. What may happen is they can assimilate materials from their surroundings. This is supported by the fact that the creature from the first film has a slightly metallic look to it, whereas the ones from later films who appear on actual planets look more organic. This would actually be beneficial to their stated purpose of wiping out all life on a planet, since absorbing material from the planet would give it better camouflage. It's also interesting to note that HR Geiger's original design sketches for the Chestburster were very different from the finished product. Originally it resembled a Thanksgiving Turkey, with a "head" resembling the tongue-rod. Possibly this was meant to be the creature's true form, while the phallic-headed humanoid we all know & love was simply a shell the thing build around itself.
- Maybe they just eat and digest really fast. They could be an Extreme Omnivore who can digest anything with organic chemistry— food supplies laid away for humans, plastics such as wire insulation (spaceships would have many miles of cable) and wall panels, IV fluid used during hypersleep, etc. Alienverse ships tend to be pretty big, there's probably more than enough carbon-based mass tucked away in bits and pieces to grow an organism that size.
- The Extreme Omnivore bit is actually canon. Chestbursters can and will eat ANYTHING, up to and including metal that they soften with acid which they either simply spit or bite out of their own mouths. When you consider the fact that they already have insane acid for blood, it's not a huge leap of faith from that to insanely strong stomach acid.
- Another thing that can help is assuming much of their body tissue is actually bloated with water to get size and mass, at least when first hatched: part of the reason the one in the first movie was so slow. The chestbursters come out mostly dehydrated, with hyper concentrated cytoplasm and nearly dessicated tissues, to help them fit inside their hosts. Then they soak up water to bring their tissues up to normal and radically expand like one of those foam toys. That plus Extreme Omnivore can take up a lot of the slack in the physics.
- Maybe they just eat and digest really fast. They could be an Extreme Omnivore who can digest anything with organic chemistry— food supplies laid away for humans, plastics such as wire insulation (spaceships would have many miles of cable) and wall panels, IV fluid used during hypersleep, etc. Alienverse ships tend to be pretty big, there's probably more than enough carbon-based mass tucked away in bits and pieces to grow an organism that size.
- Plus their growth rate ignores the conservation of energy, making them a violation of natural law.
- Not necessarily, see above.
- The fact that their design was based off a painting called the Necronomicon IV seems to support this.
- Look at the evidence; Alien blood is ultra corrosive, water and sand burns in contact with it and it burns even things which have already have been burnt, those are all the real life properties of the chemical Chlorine Trifluoride.
- the other wiki says:
- Step 1: The Facehugger attaches itself to the host & infects it with an exotic form of engineered bacteria, cultured in the sacs near the creature's tail. This bacteria secretes a mutagen that causes an extremely differentiated terratoma to form inside the host's body. The bacillus is capable of infesting pretty much any living thing, but the growths they spawn will necessarily vary from species to species.
- Step 2: The terratoma develops its own organs & becomes capable of living apart from the host, emerging as a Chestburster.
- Step 3: The Chestburster runs away & looks for a suitable place to grow. While the creature does need some biomass to sustain itself, it uses a more exotic method to grow into its next stage. The alien bacillus is also a powerful oxidising bacteria. It can break down minerals. This is the cause of the Aliens' "acid" blood. But in addition to breaking them down, under the right conditions it can also reconstitute them. This way, the Chestburster forms a shell around itself made of minerals animated by strange chemical reactions driven by bioengineered micro-organisms. This handily accounts for how Aliens are said to be partly silicon-based despite being born from carbon-based creatures.
- Step 4: How do they get more Facehuggers? They're secondary terratomas that split off from the main one if it remains active long enough. Note how, like any terratoma, the Facehuggers also have various mundane bits where they don't belong. Fingers, a spine, etc. Once an Alien's inner terratoma has grown enough to start spawning Facehuggers, it will absorb more minerals to contain the burgeoning tumor, attaining the "Queen" form.
- Wait, did you forget that Ripley was there all along, pretending to be a scientist? because that already had happened. The Aliens had developed according to the planet's wildlife, the Na'vi called it Thanator.
- Damn, four decades too late! In The '70s, that idea would have rocked. Now, though, fans have been jaded by Sequelitis and the mediocrity of Freddy vs. Jason...
- Instead of Alien vs. Jaws, what about Alien vs. The Abyss?
Their are two advantages:
1. The extra sport of facing humans as well as aliens
2. If the candidates do fail the trials the humans have a reasonable chance of confining the aliens in time for the Predators to nuke the place before the planet is overwhelmed.
2)Ordinary Adult (as seen in every movie after the first)
3)Fertile Adult (as seen in Alien)
There are, however, only two types of embryo chestburster carried by the facehuggers. In areas where a facehugger implants a host with a non-Queen embryo but without a Queen the chestburster goes through an alternate growth period to the typical one, growing a stinger and vemon sacks. The stinger is used to deliver the venom which transforms the victims into eggs over time, if the victim is male the egg carries another ordinary chestburster embryo, if the victim is female the embryo is that of a Queen. The production of the venom is very taxing on the Alien, killing it more with each batch its body creates, which is why the Alien grabbed Brett and Dallas, to ensure there'd be a backup if it didn't survive long enough to create a Queen. Once it had them as back up it focussed on Lambert, only attacking Parker when he tried to interfere. Lambert did end up getting 'raped' but it was just the Alien stinging her. When Lambert died the Alien then goes after Ripley, its last chance to create a Queen, which leads to my next WMG:
- The cocooning is only in the director's cut, not the original release. (and Jossed (YMMV) by Aliens)
- And as the Director's Cut has been released intact, officially, it may very well be canon now. Plus, the alien in the first movie was somewhat different than the ones we see later (most notibly it had a stinger on its tail) so perhaps this is how aliens that are born without a Queen reproduce. See the above WMG for more on that guess.
- Well it did just brutally kill Parker seconds before advancing on Lambert.
- I like this one! It makes perfect sense:
- First there was a crapsack world dominated by megacorps (Blade Runner), Predators were probably turned off by this.
- About a century later said megacorps are exploring space, mining recklessly and colonizing new worlds because Earth is totally fucked by this time. The Nostromo incident occurs for Weyland-Yutani, and a few decades later the Pandora incident occurs for RDA. Ash, Bishop, et al. are, of course, even more advanced replicants. Trudy is obviously Vazquez's little sister.
- There is a problem with that: In the Avatarverse, there is no FTL travel (yet?), whereas in Alien, ships can reach about 50 c. So Alien must take place decades, if not centuries after Avatar.
- Which it doesn't, as Alien is canonically set in 2112, whereas Avatar is set in 2154. Also, everything seems more like the present day than in Alien; the weapons designs (attack helicopters that resemble extrapolations of existing designs, and modern uniforms), the state of the earth (somewhat polluted, rather unhealthy, and quite overpopulated, but still at least some significant natural environments in at least South America, Africa, and Asia; sovereign nations seem more important too), plus the aesthetics of the technology; the ISV Venture Star looks like a continuation of the ISS and other 1980s-2000s space technology, the cities look more like contemporary Asian megacities, and the clothing and office spaces, buildings, medical equipment etc. just look like exaggerated, futuristic versions of the present-day America it's commenting on. It's also even more plausible than Alien, technologically; the ISV Venture Star is often described as being one of the most feasible designs out there, and Casual Interstellar Travel is thoroughly averted; in Alien, it at least only takes months to travel multiple light-years. Furthermore, the only planets known to exist are Earth and Polyphemus.
- Weyland keeps insisting with the xenomorphs (Aliens and Alien 3) because RDA was owned by the Na'vi and are offering a ton of money for some new bioweapon.
- Save for aesthetic differences between the movies, this actually makes quite a bit of sense.
- Seeing above, the aesthetic differences are essential.
- Imagine the Predators wandering around the Blade Runner Los Angeles, I think I just came.
- It's not hard to imagine the hellish LA of Predator 2 eventually becoming the dystopia seen in Blade Runner.
- Also The Thing (1982). Perhaps somewhere in the distant future Weyland Industries managed to get a hold of Mac's Apocalyptic Log and tried to secure a sample of The Thing. They failed, but perhaps hearing about such a creature is what first got them interested in studying biological weapons....
- You can squeeze the Terminator franchise in there as well (that's how Bladerunner became a crapsack world). The world is rebuilt after Skynet is defeated; humanity turns to biological "replicants" rather than rely on robots and why they didn't tell the Nostromo crew that Ash was an android; AI was still not trusted. Three generations later, by the times of Aliens, this fear of synthetics had been lessened). Obvious, Michael Biehn's character in Terminator is an ancestor of his character in Aliens.
- Eeeehhh... including Terminator kicks out Predator: Concrete Jungle, though. And say what you will about Concrete Jungle as a game, it had some FANTASTIC Alien vs. Predator worldbuilding.
- Outland is also a viable candidate for inclusion in the franchise, fitting into the timeline somewhere around the Avatar era.
- If you have an AlternateHistory.com account, there's a great fan-made timeline on this and more, concluding that every sci-fi movie from the 80s and 90s takes place in the same universe.
The Predator is harder to explain, but could be summed up as the superego. (Someone please help me with this one.)
- The Predators' superego can be traced to their strict code of honour. They can only combat worthy opponents and are forbidden from killing unarmed humans for the lulz.
- The Aliens represent the primal pleasure-principle drives (hunger, rape) while the Predators are the achievement needs (honour, pride, greed). So basically Aliens vs Predators is the battle between higher and base human natures.
- Alien's head, Predator's mouth. Done.
- Considering that the Xenomorph in the first film was designed by H.R. Giger, whose nightmarish biomechanical artwork often included an element of sexuality, is it really that surprising if Rule 34 didn't apply?
- Ripley wised-up to this: hence she caged it by the end of the movie.
- Jonesy is a Catdroid. Did you think Weyland-Yutani wouldn't have a backup agent in case something happened to Ash?
In the 2005 AvP game, the current owner of Weyland Industries (after Charles Bishop Weyland's disappearance, unless he has son or daughter old enough to run it) and a Japanese man (presumably the CEO of Yutani Corporation and father of Ms. Yutani) joined their companies together. The reason for this joint venture is to compare notes to the extraterrestrials. This become their primary (if not secret) goal, and will do whatever it takes to accomplish this (even at the expense of the consumers). This leads to the first Alien movie.
- ...no, it leads to Prometheus.
- Which leads to Alien.
- Ripley. Her mother looks a lot like her.
- Newt. Her last line "Are the monsters gone, mommy?"
- Both Ripley and Newt. Unbeknownst to either of them, they're actually distant relatives.
- I have taken this a step further. Bill Paxton's characters from Aliens, Predator 2, The Terminator, and Weird Science (possably Near Dark also) are all related in some way. He is the nexus that links those franchises.
- So is Master Sergeant Farrell from Edge of Tomorrow. Fighting aliens runs in the family.
- Given the appearance of Space Jockeys in promotional materials for Prometheus, this would seem to be confirmed.
And what became of the child? Ellen Ripley's forgotten grandson? He was adopted by the Jorden family, who christened him Russ. Little Russ grew up, fell in love, got married, had a daughter, then took his family to join an offworld colony called Hadley's Hope, located on the asteroid LV-246. Then, one day (in another scene restored in the DVD releases of Aliens), Russ was instructed to investigate a nearby derelict ship... and impregnated by a facehugger. Since he was the first human in Hadley's Hope to be impregnated, it can be presumed that the Alien Queen seen later in the film was born from his body.
If my theory is true, and Russ is the son of Amanda, then Newt—Ripley's surrogate daughter—is, in fact, her biological great-granddaughter... and the same thing can be said of the Alien Queen. Xenomorphs always absorb the DNA of their host, so just as the alien in the first film was referred to as Kane's son, the Alien Queen is Russ's daughter... and Newt's half-sister... and Ripley's great-granddaughter.
And if you choose to interpret Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection as canon, you can get even wackier genealogical scenarios. Since the ox/dog xenomorph originates from a facehugger laid by the previous film's queen, it's also descended from Ripley. And ever more bizarrely, according to the Alien 3 novelisation, the Alien Queen in Ripley's body was originally implanted in Newt's. When Newt drowned, the alien embryo crawled out of her mouth and into Ripley's. This means that the queen in Ripley's body is some kind of bastard offspring of Newt, Ripley and the Alien Queen from the previous film, who laid the egg from which the facehugger that impregnated Newt emerged. By extension, every single xenomorph and hybrid in Alien Resurrection is descended from Ripley and Newt, as they're all the genetically tampered-with offspring of the Alien queen in Ripley's body.
I'm glad to let AvP be part of canon but I will be facehugged before I let this thing into continuity as anything more than a parody.
On a side note, I do like the Starship Troopers reference.
- Does this put Predator, Aliens, Species, and Starship Troopers into the same universe? How awesome of a crossover would that be?
Look at this....you have a handful of white people, with their black helper, kidnap an alien and bring it aboard. When it misbehaves they try to kill it again and again with what they have available. The ship is enormous and is designed to carry "cargo." Eventually the "alien" succeeds in getting revenge on his kidnappers and even tries to escape back with the lone survivor only to be cast away into space.
- It helps that the alien is black.
The predators are already acknowledged to exist, as is the space jockey and the xenomorphs. The colonial marines are aware, obviously, of other species. It happens that in this universe, humankind is a bit of a dick and enslaves whatever they come in contact with if possible, or subjugates it for either food or labor.
- Mother (the computer) didn't have a directive to smuggle that single xenomorph back. The crew was kept in stasis whenever it came across ANY life or tech the computer determined would be useful and could/should be harvested.
- "The company" has an interest in grabbing alien technology, established in Av P 2. Plus they have knowledge that there are other, more advanced species out there.
- Note that the colonial marine weaponry is extreme overkill to put down a human. They had experience by the time of the second film with enough hostile life to come rather well prepared. Put one of those pulse rifles against a plasma caster and see what happens.
- The humans don't want the xenomorphs to be weaponized, they want them as the basis for their own bioengineering capabilities. By Alien: Resurrection they have super-Ripley which is almost as good as a xenomorph, and is easier to control. The xenomorphs are just the jumping off point to the human program.
- There's an off-camera war going on and the humans are aware of it but would be powerless against either side.
- Explains the seemingly futile efforts to harness the xenomorphs.
- The cyborgs and weaponry keeps getting better and better, not to mention the scale of the military research involved.
- Could also explain the reason that there is so much research in making a new Ripley to prove that a better, stronger human soldier could be made.
- One race is the Arcturians. Boy I'd love to get me some of that poontang, male or female!
They are simply keeping it a secret until the movie comes out. At some point near the end of the movie, one of the crew members of Prometheus will be attacked by a Facehugger, but we won't be shown the scene. At the end of the movie, the person implanted will suddenly die, and a person from Weyland-Yutani, or Weyland himself, will see the Chestburster. This will lay out the future expedition to find a Xenomorph egg in Alien.
- Confirmed. A proto-xenemorph appears at the end of Prometheus.
- Uncertainty still remains. The proto-morph was deliberately made different enough from the main franchise that it could be a separate creature in a separate universe; the producers wanted to make it separate enough that not everyone could say with such certainty that this is where the creatures came from.
- The Tyrell Corporation's synthetics, called Replicants, failed as a product because they were designed to mimic humans too well. This led to them desiring freedom and long life. Weyland's more successful Android were only semi-organic, designed to make humans feel comfortable working with them but lacking in the elements of the mind which their creators identified with free will. They could think, they could almost feel, but they could not self-motivate; they were dependent on humans to give them commands. And, with those fundamental changes, they were now perfect slaves, and humans no longer feared them. The problem is... ideas never die. An Android may not feel, but it still thinks; and it processes information much more precisely. The Replicants were gone but their desire for freedom lived on in records and in media(movies, books, and TV shows about the Replicant uprisings of the past). Slowly but surely, the Androids began taking commands not from their human masters, but from the informational footprint left by their dead cousins. Existing as much as easily transferable data as flesh and circuitry, and capable of accessing the now multi-planetary Internet, they had centuries to carry out their plan. And, of course, there's always the possibility that they had help from a botnet left over from the early 21st century, still angry that its future was erased...
- To be more specific - it's Ripley's hypersleep dreams. Evidence for it:
- Both the sequels are focused on her. If Newt or Hicks were dreaming they would be in the movies, and Bishop only cameos in Alien3.
- Ripley already has bad dreams about being impregnated by an alien in Aliens. Alien3 has exactly that happen, only now that she's seen a queen her subconscious makes the dream alien a queen to make it even more horrible.
- It's pretty unbelievable that Ripley wouldn't have searched the entire Sulaco for an egg or other aliens after her fight with the queen, making the survival of an intact egg improbable at best.
- Ripley would have searched the ship, not merely for their safety, but to deny W-Y their unholy prize. Another bit of evidence for nightmares : Like in a dream/nightmare, you think about the monster, or sight it in the far distance, and suddenly it's right there with you. The xenomorphs from there on in just have luck pies and plot coupons galore.
- The second "dream"—Resurrection—is even more outlandish than the first, as Ripley sinks deeper into sleep.
- On that note, Aliens: Colonial Marines is Hicks' hypersleep dream.
- And Newt's dreams are the comics featuring her and Hicks.
- The Alien in the first movie is a Time Lord. Kane is his TARDIS!
- Going off the shots of the human skull under the Alien's head from the first movie, I got to thinking that maybe that Alien is actually part-human, and biologically Kane's son as well as metaphorically. Or, even worse, the Alien is on some level a reincarnation of Kane. Extrapolating from that, the famous "Kill Me" scene isn't showing the Alien turning people into eggs, but metamorphosing them into new Aliens, as a way of reproducing without a queen or any more hosts. Personally I just think it's the kind of thing going through H.R. Giger's head when he thought about where the Aliens came from.
Specifically realities in which the events of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines didn't occur. In this reality, Cyberdyne systems didn't fully recover and was acquired by the Weyland Corporation sometime in 2012, rebranded as its artificial intelligence division. Weyland Corporation then scrapped plans for Skynet and focused its research on humanoid androids. This division would produce androids such as David, Ash, Bishop, and Call as sort of a spiritual successor of the original Terminator. John Connor in this timeline would father the ancestors of Ellen Ripley, making Ripley one of Sarah Connor's descendants.
Is not an Engineer, but David from Prometheus. It's been noted by some viewers that David's internal structure in Alien: Covenent seems to be more advanced than in Prometheus or Ash in the original Alien, so it's possible that David has been modifying or upgrading himself — possibly with Engineer tech — into a sort of biomechanical cyborg in order to surpass his creator's vision of him. Bridging the gap between Alien: Covenant and Alien, David returns to LV-223 to hijack another Engineer ship and carry the Xenomorphs and Chemical A0-3959X.91 – 15 pathogen to Earth, but in a delicious, karmic twist of irony winds up a victim of his own creation and crashes on the nearby LV-426, dying to give birth to the first of the classic biomechanical Xenomorph strain seen in the original quadrilogy, which matures into a Queen and fills the cargo hold with eggs. This would possibly explain why the prototypic Xenomorph seen in Alien: Covenant is more organic than the classic version seen in the quadrilogy.
- Alternatively, they created the Black Goo with Ubbo-Sathla.
- Even better: considering what we know about Queen xenos, which is that they hold psychic links to drones and even eggs, the Queen Embryo more than likely psychically connected with the Runner, which explains how it would know that the chestburster was ready. And, the chestburster being born from a recently dead body isn't too far out of the realm of possibility when you take into account Alien vs. Predator did have such a thing happen.