User talk:Bradv: Difference between revisions

The source on ben shapiros page for him referring to women who get abortions as baby killers has no source itself and is not a factual article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.79.102 (talk) 02:21, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sure it does. [1] Bradv🍁 02:23, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He edits the Daily Wire, a conservative blog, and hosts the online “Ben Shapiro Show,” where he’s called women who have abortions “baby killers” and said that “a man and a woman do a better job of raising a child than two men or two women.” where is the source for any of those quotes there isnt any — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.79.102 (talk) 02:27, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably they're direct quotes from Shapiro himself, and wouldn't be too hard to find. This certainly is not a valid reason to delete the quotes from the article though, as we have a reliable source. Bradv🍁 02:33, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have searched for any instance of Shapiro using the term baby killer to describe women who get abortions and there is no quote at all. Persumably it was made up as the article presented as a source is not a sourced article so it is not reliable in the slightest Mrbill0327 (talk) 02:40, 10 January 2019 (UTC)MRBILL[reply]

I'm at a loss as to what you're getting at. I did a Google search and found plenty of results, including a whole video about it. Either way, we repeat what reliable sources report, we don't do our own research. Bradv🍁 02:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He hasnt used that term ever — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbill0327 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Message from Geb11

Dear Mr. Bradv,

from GEB11:

Sorry about causing trouble. An earlier warning of yours (still extant) demanded that evidence be provided for the claims made in the biographical vignette. Over the years I have added links to comply.

I should like to say that no untrue claims have been made in regards to my academic biography. If you identified any, please, do let me know so that I will provide the link to support it, or I will delete it.

May I emphasise that at my age I do not have any interest in self-promotion or self-aggrandisement, I just wanted an informative vignette to be available so that my students and others can have access to it.

Be that as it may, if you still believe that the vignette is exaggerated and hence untrue or offensive, please do not hesitate to delete it altogether. Goodness knows, I do not really need it. Please, do reply and let me have your views.

Professor G E Berrios University of Cambridge, UK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geb11 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Geb11, thank you for clarifying your conflict of interest. Since you are (or claim to be) the subject of the article, please don't edit it further. You are welcome to suggest changes on the talk page of the article, and you are more than welcome to edit other areas of Wikipedia that aren't connected to you. See WP:COI for more guidance on conflict of interest editing. Bradv🍁 16:06, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To Mr. Bravd

Thank you, Sir, I shall not edit the entry in question again.

best,

geb11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geb11 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mr Bradv,

Sorry for bothering you. Could I seek your help further?

I must say, I feel terribly embarrassed about what I have done. The warnings and mastheads that now appear on top of my biographical vignette, albeit correct, feel very accusatory and incriminating.

Could I ask you a enormous favour?

1) Could you delete the biographical vignette altogether? I am not sure that I can (or should) do it myself. I think it is right that it should not be published in W.

2) Could you tell me how to delete my account altogether? I cannot find a way to do so!

Please do help,

Thank you,

geb11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geb11 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Geb11: You appear to meet the criteria at WP:NPROF, so the article on you will probably not be deleted altogether. It should be trimmed though, as only information that can be credibly sourced should be included. Regarding your second point, Wikipedia does not have the technical means to delete accounts, as they are required for attribution. Bradv🍁 17:48, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mr Bradv,

Could I please have the entire biographical vignette deleted?

Some of the requests for 'credible' evidence are impossible to meet. For example, it is asked that I provide evidence for the fact that I have four children and that two have died. Apart from sending dead certificates, how can I evidence that? Furthermore, if I entered any evidence then I am going against the injunction of not editing.

You ask that only those bits of information that are properly evidenced be left. Who is going to do the pruning? Will you do it yourself? Have you actually read the vignette?

If the vignette is considered autobiographic, why is it that now I cannot ask for a complete deletion?

I imagine you have administrator's rights. Please, do delete the whole thing and then there is no need for the mastheads to appear accusing me of fabricating things about my life!

I am asking politely, sir, for you to proceed.

Thank you.

Professor G E Berrios — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geb11 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Geb11: I am not an admin, and cannot unilaterally delete the article. Part of the rules around conflict of interest stipulate that you do not have editorial control over the article – you have released your contributions under the CC BY-SA license, and it is now up to the community to decide whether this content is worthy of inclusion. The criteria at WP:NPROF suggest that it will be kept, but I have asked for more input at the conflict of interest noticeboard. Bradv🍁 18:17, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Bradv,

Have you been able to find out how could my biographical vignette be completely removed from Wikipedia? If not, Is there a higher authority I could appeal to?

A sort of catch 22 situation is beginning to develop here. Any change I implement is 'reversed' by some invisible hand who does not bother to explain or give reasons for it. I am really at a lost.

Please, help. So far, you seem to be the only visible and sensible interlocutor that I have been able to find in Wikipedia.

Professor G E Berrios (geb11) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geb11 (talk • contribs) 07:59, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Geb11: The best place for your request is at Talk:G. E. Berrios, where you can request what you would like done. I would start with identifying any falsehoods or embellishments that may be in the article. Also, please make sure you sign your posts using four tildes, like this: ~~~~ Bradv🍁 15:38, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Removal from case

Hi Bradv, I removed a block evading IP's comments from the Workshop page (after blocking the IP first for block evasion). Considering this all happened on January 5, it's a bit belated, but unless someone pings me to the case, I'm not paying a lot of attention to it. Please let me know if I was wrong to remove the comments. After all, I'm not a clerk and I'm a party to the case. If I shouldn't have, I apologize and won't do so again; I can also self-revert if you like. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:31, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23: I presume you have checkuser evidence for the block evasion, which the arbitrators could ask you for if required. Nevertheless, I think it may work better to collapse the comments then remove them entirely, in order to preserve the integrity of the discussion. Does that make sense to you? Bradv🍁 00:40, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

My personal view is that nothing is lost in the discussion by the removal, but you should do whatever you think is appropriate. As for CU evidence, any of the arbitrators can ask me privately for whatever they need.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:30, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bbb23. I've collapsed the comment, but I don't think it matters too much either way. Cheers. Bradv🍁 01:38, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Message from Geb11

Thank you for your help. Let us hope that those participating in the ongoing conversations on my putative conflict of interest decide, after all, that the biographical vignette be deleted altogether, as I do not really qualify for the level of notability rightly required by Wikipedia.

In the meantime, whoever the current editor of the vignette is (I am grateful to her/him for the help) continues to request additional evidence. I am quietly complying and now all the requests except one have been met. This one concerns the award of my honorary Fellowship by the Royal College of Psychiatrists. For some reason the RCPsych does not publish a list accessible to all and sundry. It is of course available in their passworded intranet and whilst I have access to it, the external link would not convey to the required information. I am writing to the RPCPsych asking them for a solution to this problem. I would be happy to provide a photocopy of the award and a picture of the ceremony that took place in Edinburgh in 2010.

Respectfully, I would like to emphasize that the vignette is utterly factual and totally devoid of 'embellishments'. Indeed, many other achievements have not been listed. For example, I have 6 doctorates honoris causa but the person currently editing the vignette chose to delete three, that is ok by me, and I will do as I am told.

Could you kindly make this message available to those who are deciding on the fate of the blessed vignette? My final request has to be, can it be deleted altogether?

Thank you for your patience and continuous help!

Professor G E Berrios (geb11) Geb11 (talk) 18:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Message from 2A02:AB04:2BC:CB00:9168:9C39:3699:FD1A

hey, I'm new to wiki, the message said you instantly reverted the 2A02:AB04:2BC:CB00:9168:9C39:3699:FD1A contribution to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_African_farm_attacks&action=history and said to talk about it on "talk" page. This should be it, right? I removed misleading line in the article as my first attempt to edit and see what happens. Please correct me if I'm using wiki incorrectly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:AB04:2BC:CB00:9168:9C39:3699:FD1A (talk) 22:34, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You removed two references and changed the title of one of the references. I'm not sure what you were trying to accomplish, but if you have opinions on the accuracy of the article I suggest bringing them up at Talk:South African farm attacks. Bradv🍁 23:23, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Eva Bartlett

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Eva Bartlett. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Trump derangement syndrome:

Not sure what your comment "no it's not" is referring to. I stated, after you undid my addition that it is not presented as a medical diagnosis, in fact the exact quote I have is that it is not yet an official diagnosis. Though medical experts agreed further research should be done on this new label, which is also listed with citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.136.156.73 (talk) 18:17, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

See WP:MEDRS. Suggesting that Trump derangement syndrome is a "well-documented phenomenon, backed up by hard neuroscience, endocrinology, and history" is utter nonsense. Bradv🍁 18:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This was a direct quote by renowned the pediatric endocrinologist Robert Lustig, and is in quotes with citation. A more credible source than some of the opinion pieces already accepted on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.136.156.73 (talk) 18:43, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see. It sounds like you're trying to make a POINT. Bradv🍁 18:44, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No, i'm looking for a legitimate justification for the removal of two cited medical experts on the matter. What it appears you are doing is cherry picking what you want to see on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.136.156.73 (talk) 18:56, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

Hi,

I see that you reverted my edit. I'm not gonna revert it back but it would be nice if next time you would give an explanation in the comment field so that other editors that look at the article history don't have to guess or worse each ask you individually. This saves them precious time --Distelfinck (talk) 22:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I did. Bradv🍁 22:30, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote in the summary what you did, not the reason why you did it. That you restored the sentence can bee seen by anybody without looking at the edit summary. But why would you restore a sentence that was removed with the reason that it's not supported by the sources? A legitimate reason in your edit summary would look like "Wrong, source N° 2 says 'so and so'" --Distelfinck (talk) 22:36, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't think it required further explanation. Bradv🍁 22:41, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Buster7 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week: Bradv takes the time to work on "tough to review" AfC drafts that other reviewers have by-passed. This requires taking the time to familiarize oneself with the subject and respond to article creators (usually newbies} questions. He helps provide feedback, guidance and support to these new editors, letting them improve an article rather than outright deletion of their efforts and in so doing creates productive Wikipedians. He does his best to be consistent with other reviewers and strives to embrace opportunities for his personal self-reflection and review. He tirelessly works behind the scenes to improve and enlarge the encyclopedia. A very agreeable editor, he has a good track record of being civil, polite and helpful and well deserves to be this weeks Editor of the Week.

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