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Ninetta May Runnals

Hi, I'm just finishing up my research for this new article, and came across this newspaper clipping from Newspapers.com. As I don't have access to the whole article, I wonder if you would mind copying it onto my talk page? The link is: [1]. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:07, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Mia Arnesby Brown

Can you help with this one? It needs cleanup after being started. Should count towards this month's editathon!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:46, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Yep. I'm on it. SusunW (talk) 16:39, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

I cleaned it up a bit, I don't know if enough can be found for a DYK!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:51, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

I just found a piece from a Chattanooga art gallery that has quite a bit of info. Who knew, Tennessee would have the answers? SusunW (talk) 16:55, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld I think you are good enough now for DYK. The museum article says images of her works are in PD, but I have no clue. SusunW (talk) 18:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Looks good Susun! Thereza Dillwyn Llewelyn also new and looks interesting! Some of the sources might not meet RS though♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:34, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld May be able to look at it later. Right now hip deep in other alligators. SusunW (talk) 19:07, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	You have been a huge help, not just in this article but in explaining how to make an article better. Thank you. ☕ Antiqueight chatter 23:29, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much Antiqueight. I am still fairly new on WP myself and have had many great mentors who helped me along. We can make this platform welcoming if we choose ;). If ever you need help, I'm just a ping away. I'll try my best. SusunW (talk) 23:56, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

I have technically been here a while and have plenty edits, but til recently they were all maintenance - typos, vandalism etc. So - thank you - and for the tip about the fair use - I usually upload through commons and it won't accept fair use...So I never thought to look for it here. I can go back now and add images to several of the articles! ☕ Antiqueight ^chatter 00:23, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I've technically been on here about 15 months. I mostly write articles. If I do gnoming, it is to put articles into WikiProjects or help with WiR tasks. I have little technical skill with WP, so I focus on what I do well, which is write articles about women. I enjoy the writing, but find that I learn as much from writing the articles as I impart. If I find some technical know-how in another article that makes it easier, I make note of it. But, as I said before, I have been lucky with mentors and if I don't know or can't find an answer, I have great people to ask. ;) SusunW (talk) 02:06, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Well, thanks to you, I now have 5 articles with images (not all great ones) and anther 2 I should be able to add tomorrow. Though I'm nervous about which photo to use for Juanita Casey...the one with the zebra is excellent but is it biographical? What is interesting is that it can be so hard to find online photos of people who only died 9 years ago but I have a photo from 1884....Anyway - assuming I did it right you can check out Margaret Tynan, Janet McNeill, Sheila Wingfield, Louise Gavan Duffy and possibly, if it's allowed Nine Graces. Since the Nine Graces date from 1884 I can't currently find photos of the two women whose articles I have written...And now I must go to sleep! ☕ Antiqueight ^chatter 02:56, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Antiqueight Sleep well. The photos look great. If at any point someone finds free use, they can always replace fair use, but in my experience it doesn't happen often. As long as I can find a decent photo on deceased people, I try to use it. And yes, frustrating that some are impossible to find and others are simple. Some you think would be simple aren't. It's crazy. SusunW (talk) 04:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Debopriya Chatterjee and Suchismita Chatterjee

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Can I request to copy edit and nominate this article Rebecca Tobey on DYK, if found suitable?Nvvchar. 16:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Nvvchar I have guests in from outside the country. May be very busy for the next few days. If it is not urgent, I will be glad to look at it in due course. SusunW (talk) 17:33, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• Take your time.Nvvchar. 04:07, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Anne Hellum AfD

Hi Susun. If you have time, could you have a look at this one. It seems to me to be fully acceptable but we once again have the academic gang fighting it. While I'm here, I've been working on a few Scandinavians. You might find Amanda Sidwall and Suzette Holten worthwhile for DYK. If I'm not mistaken, you can nominate them without QPQ if they are not yours. Yoninah can probably advise on this.--Ipigott (talk) 15:55, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hellum is the editor of an academic journal. Though ACADEMIC is not required, only GNG, as an editor, she meets WP criteria in my estimation and I said that on the nomination. I have visitors in from Belize. Will add your two articles to the DYK list on the page and see if someone will nominate them. If not, I will do it but it may take me a few days, as it doesn't matter if the editor has had no prior nominations only if they nominate it themselves. If I do it, I must provide a QPQ. SusunW (talk) 17:31, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for supporting Anne Hellum. It's now OK. Sorry about the DYKs. I had misunderstood the rules. Just forget about it and enjoy your time with your visitors. I've always found the DYK procedures unmanageable myself.--Ipigott (talk) 08:06, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

And thanks for Amanda Sidwall. Looks good with the picture.--Ipigott (talk) 16:43, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Doris Stevens

Hello! Your submission of Doris Stevens at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:49, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Your DYK total

Hi SusunW, you seem to be churning out so many DYKs, I was curious as to how many credits you've received. You're holding at 153 DYKs! I'm wondering if you'd like me to list you at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs and give you your 100 DYK medal? The only other thing that would need to be done is to create a DYK page where you would list your credits. It could look like mine, if you wish, and I could set it up for you – but you would need to update it every time you get a new credit. What do you think? Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

That would be very cool. Thanks! You know that I don't have the skill to create it, but can surely figure out how to maintain it. SusunW (talk) 04:23, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi again. I downloaded all the DYKs from your archives, but the program is not letting me copy the ones from your current talk page. I'll keep trying. In the meantime, you also have a few DYK nomination credits. Are you interested in keeping track of those, too? (You need a minimum of 25 credits – creations or nominations – to qualify for a place on the Wikipedian list mentioned above. Yoninah (talk) 15:36, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah if it is fairly easy to keep track of, sure. Where do I find them? SusunW (talk) 15:41, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

After I finish updating your current total, which I've culled from all your talk page archives, you only need to add each new DYK creation credit as it appears on your current talk page. Yoninah (talk) 15:43, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Cool. If I miss one, I can always double check in the chart we're trying to keep on the editathon pages covering all DYKs on women. SusunW (talk) 15:52, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

OK, all done. You now have a user DYK page to update your credits: User:SusunW/DYKs, and a listing at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs where you can keep your number of DYK credits updated. Again, this only refers to creation credits. If you'd like a separate tally of nomination credits, I could set that up for you too. Yoninah (talk) 16:12, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah I give QPQs, and help with article expansion and editing, but I don't think I have many nominations of other people's articles. I prefer the random acts of kindness approach and keeping track of them isn't necessary, I think. Thank you for setting up the DYK page for me. I would never have known how to do it. In fact, I did not even know there was an award for nominating. SusunW (talk) 16:37, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Marguerite de Witt-Schlumberger at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; see step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 02:16, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

100 DYK Medal

		The 100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Congratulations to one of the most prolific editors on the project! In the short time you've been here, you have not only enriched Wikipedia with your biographies of Native American and South American women, among other subjects, but you have also logged DYK credits almost every other day! Keep up the great work! Yoninah (talk) 16:00, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Yoninah. I just tell the stories. There are truly so many notable women just waiting for their stories to be told. :) SusunW (talk) 16:04, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations! That's a great achievement. And all your articles are so informative and so well researched.--Ipigott (talk) 16:42, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Newspapers.com

Hi SusunW, I signed up for Newspapers.com but I don't see the advantage to it at all. Every single article I want to view requires that I sign up for a 7-day free trial, after which I have to pay $13 a month. How do you get open access? Here's the article I want to view now: [2]. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 16:06, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah Sounds to me like they haven't gotten your authorization processed yet. Either that, or it isn't linked with your sign on, which someone from WP end will need to do. It shouldn't cost you anything to have access to most papers. There are a "very few" publishers who require premium access, but those are a tiny minority and often you can find a similar article on the same day in a paper in which the WP subscription has paid for. If WP sent you an e-mail that it is approved and you are still getting that subscription message, message the WP contact back. Something may be wrong in the way they processed the account. Here's the article [3] I think. If it's not the one, just tell me the name and I'll find it for you. Input it as you normally would any source and then tack |via = Newspapers.com}} on the end of the citation. SusunW (talk) 16:17, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh. I didn't do it through WP, but through the Newspapers.com site. Where is the Wikipedia page for signing up?

Thanks for this article. I can use it, too, but the one I need is from the Portland Daily Herald, November 13, 1949, talking about John and Dorothy Healy's Bald Hill turkey farm, on which they also raise pheasants and partridges. Yoninah (talk) 17:50, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah That explains that ;) WP covers the subscription if you go through them. It's here: Wikipedia:Newspapers.com. While you are at it, also get Wikipedia:Newspaperarchive.com as they cover different papers. Let me see if I can find the article you need. SusunW (talk) 17:59, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah Is this it? [4] SusunW (talk) 18:06, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes! Thanks so much. And I just applied at Wikipedia:Newspapers.com. Thanks for all your help, Yoninah (talk) 18:09, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah You are most welcome. You help me so much all the time, the little bit I can do in return seems small by comparison. Until they get your account transitioned over, please feel free to let me help you with any articles you need. SusunW (talk) 18:14, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

We each have our strengths. It's a pleasure to work together. Yoninah (talk) 18:19, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Thanks - I applied for Wikipedia:Newspaperarchive.com as I didn't even know about it.. ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 18:17, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Antiqueight LOL, stalk away ;) . It's been really helpful for me. They have a more broad (broader?) international base, which helps a lot in the Caribbean. Still haven't found any significant source for newspapers that aren't English language-based, but am always on the hunt. Dr. Blofeld knows how to get them approved (he helped push Newspaperarchive through), so if we can find archives that are willing to cooperate with WP (unfortunately that would not be the NY Times), we can always try to get more archives approved. As I said to Yoninah earlier, newspapers are key for searching women, IMO, as traditional publishers didn't often cover their works/activities, but news articles often did. SusunW (talk) 18:25, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

SusunW, I am still waiting for my Newspapers.com account to come through (they approved it). Could you show me the full article from the Indianapolis Star, December 27, 1974, page 12, titled "Feminism Brings Changes to Marriage Contracts"? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:27, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah unfortunately, that is one of the actual "premium" articles I don't have access to. I don't find any other articles immediately around that date with a similar title, but I found these two on "marriage". [5] [6] Is there a name I can search? SusunW (talk) 01:33, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

I was searching for Lois Galgay Reckitt. Yoninah (talk) 10:41, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah I'm guessing this one [7] is similar to the contract one above. SusunW (talk) 14:29, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah There are tons of articles about her in that Indianapolis Star. Couldn't find any on similar dates in Newspapers.com, so popped over to Newspaperarchives. Got: [8], [9], [10], [11]. On these, input the same as you would any reference and then tack |via = Newspaperarchive.com}} on the end. Let me know if I can help further. SusunW (talk) 15:01, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that's it. Thanks very much! Yoninah (talk) 15:02, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Ochy Curiel

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DYK for Joceline Clemencia

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DYK for Doris Sands Johnson

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DYK for Deolinda Rodríguez de Almeida

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DYK for María Currea Manrique

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DYK for Sonia M. Johnny

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Precious again, your SIX - can't believe it! - credits on International Women's Day!!

... and here I was proud to have one chosen. QAI members wrote half of the articles of the day,- thanks to you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate you for your support Gerda Arendt. I don't really deserve too much credit, it is the women whose stories are just waiting to be told who deserve the recognition. :) Happy International Women's Day. SusunW (talk) 19:52, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Beautifully said, deserves an extra precious ;) - My little contribution to today: I was pleased that I could rescue the article, started by a banned user, stubbed by someone who didn't trust him, - because its the woman and her achievements! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it's all about them. Too many people get hung up in the editor and rules rather than the subject :) SusunW (talk) 20:22, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Last thing I did on IWD: nominate a women (an expansion from a 30 March 2014 stub), mentioning in the hook two others who composed, and in the article a woman who conducts. Day is over this end of the world ;) The one who stubbed Hana was less happy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm still trying to finish my Romanian/Moldovan suffragist for the day, but I got one of mine and one of Ian's nominated for DYK. :) Sleep well. SusunW (talk) 23:16, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Australian Women Bios

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-07/women-erased-from-history-on-wikipedia/7225556

Happened to see this last night and thought it might be of interest. ;) We hope (talk) 17:33, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

• We hope very much so! Thank you. Sharing it with WiR! SusunW (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

I have to say - I'm a little nervous of the idea of an honorary surgeon. But it would be lovely to see something like this in media here. I've reposted the link on FB. Thanks all. ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 19:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

LOL Antiqueight I'll lay you 10 to 1 that she took the studies but was denied the degree before because it was barred to women. But... it does have quite the quirky mental pictures. Imagine you were the first person who decided to do surgery. Whatever would make you think of that? Oh, worse, imagine you were the first patient... SusunW (talk) 19:14, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

A couple of my recent articles have been on the first women to XX in University (more to come one I have an interview out of the way...work and all that). The fun part is that the Royal University let them get a degree before it was possible for them to attend lectures. So they had to learn it all off site and then turn up and do the exams. The first women professor in a university in GB or IRE got her degrees that way. But - oh the imagery.....:-) ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 19:22, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Suffragist Artist

I saw your comment on voting on Rosie's page and I thought I'd take a look for some suffragist artists and found Ida Proper Sedgwick (1873-1957), [12]. However, I can't find too much other information about her yet. >.< Btw, I too, think it's super important to vote. I talk to my kids about it and it felt really good to vote in this primary. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:22, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl We actually flew back to the US for the first time in 5 years last year to change our residence so we could vote. I may not live in the US, but the policies the country uses effect me as a citizen and impact my livelihood, my retirement, my access to funds in US banks, etc. We had crazy difficulties voting from our previous state...they mailed our absentee ballots to our address in that state rather than our new addresses in either Belize or Mexico; they required that we mail ballots back in a specific sized envelope which were unattainable here in a country which measures in metric scale; they mailed our ballots 2 weeks before an election, though we told them the delivery time was 30 days, etc. etc. etc. The US embassy had to facilitate all of our attempts at voting because the state was totally uncooperative. Our new state (actually where we were married) allows us to vote via e-mail or fax and e-mails our ballots. Much simpler and doesn't feel so much as if they are specifically trying to thwart our participation. I'll look at Sedgwick. I'm almost finished with my Romanian suffragette. :) SusunW (talk) 17:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

That's terrible! :( The only time I had to vote absentee was when I was in the military overseas. I was in Germany and didn't have any trouble, but on the other hand, technically on a US base, I'm still "in the US." I found this and this and she was part of this group, which has a ton of redlinks: Heterodoxy (group). I'm happy to collaborate. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:56, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Would love to Megalibrarygirl do you want to start it or do you want me to? Also curious if you have a Muse subscription. Found a great book on Eastern European Feminists. SusunW (talk) 19:09, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I totally have a Muse subscription. What's the title? I'll start Sedgwick: Here's the draft: User:Megalibrarygirl/Ida Proper Sedgwick Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:10, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Biographical Dictionary of Women’s Movements and Feminisms: Central, Eastern, and South Eastern Europe, 19th and 20th Centuries SusunW (talk) 19:13, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Oops, I forgot to Megalibrarygirl ping you. *sigh* SusunW (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

No worries. I finally found it. Btw, isn't it nuts that Ida Proper is so lost in history? She seems really significant at the time. I think Wyeth painted a portrait of her. I wonder if we could use that for the article? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:42, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl I am finding more and more that newspapers are the way to go. Traditional publishers ignored women's accomplishments, but newspapers talked about them. Yes, we end up with a slew of sources, but, significant gems. I have no idea about the PD of artworks. Maybe my friend We hope knows? I'd love to see if that painting she had in the Salon in 1910 could be used too. What I can make out from the newspaper article of it, it was lovely. SusunW (talk) 22:47, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

You are so right. :) I want to see her work, too. I'm having a hard time finding examples, though. She has totally slipped through the cracks which is awful. The Wyeth picture was a red herring. The title is Ida Proper, but the painting is of a house (maybe her house?). Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:53, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl look at the 1910 article from "the Sun" SusunW (talk) 22:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

I wish I could find that in color. The photo you found of her is awesome! Orange knickers! How cool! But the lack of examples of her work is terrible. Even the Smithsonian doesn't show her work. This is nuts. I'm actually super angry that she became forgotten. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:12, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Think we should move it to article space? I am mostly tapped out on sources. I can't even figure out if the Wyeth painting is her house, like you suggested. However, I do have a friend who works at the El Paso Art Museum, and maybe she'll have an idea where to find out about her works and such. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:09, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl yes, I think we can take it to mainspace. We've covered her fairly well from what we can find. this is interesting. Seems to indicate she married and had children. Wonder if that is why it goes silent? SusunW (talk) 17:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I wondered that too, since the family seems large and genealogy has been done, along with gravestone pictures, on some sites. I'll move it. I just wish I could find more. She got into my head. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

The few times I've dealt with artwork, it's been with paintings which are easily in the PD. no matter what country. (Paintings from Althorp and the like.) It would seem that for the US, having something before 1923 would be PD, no question. But there are other rules in place in other countries which are based on the death year of the artist and X number of years after the artist's death. Would suggest running this by Crisco 1492 since he's very active in this area.

Chronicling America at Library of Congress has a good collection of pre-1923 newspapers from across the US. This may be a clearer copy of The Sun page. You're able to download a PDF or JPG copy of the page (see upper right of the LOC viewer). There were also more women who were involved in art for the cause; here's the page I found at Chronicling America:

• Richmond Times October 16, 1915

Other voting rights pages at LOC:

• The Evening World October 19, 1915 Rights parade-Ida Proper mentioned.

• New York Tribune November 21, 1915 Rights dispute-Ida Proper mentioned.

• New York Tribune November 24, 1915 Formation of the Heterodoxy-Ida Proper mentioned.

• New York Tribune November 3, 1915 Suffrage leaders-Ida Proper mentioned and in the group photo on page.

• New York Tribune October 31, 1915 Protest via lapboard in NYC subway-Ida Proper mentioned.

Some of this might be of use. ;) We hope (talk) 16:25, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you We hope Great quote from Ida, "If politics are dirty, send for the cleaning woman" Evening Post 1915. Why do I think she had a great tongue-in-cheek sense of humor. Orange knickers indeed Megalibrarygirl! SusunW (talk) 16:33, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Awesome sources, We hope. :) Thank you. I also like that quote and that picture of her with the jaunty smile is too cool. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:04, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl, I'm working on a Liechtenstein lady right now, so it will be much later today before I can look at Proper. If you want to incorporate these, that'd be lovely. No clue what your agenda is today. I'd also like to get her nominated for DYK. Certainly deserving of more recognition. Do you want to nominate her or do you want me to? SusunW (talk) 17:12, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

I'll do it. I'm chasing down some of the redlinks I found with Proper anyway. There are local New York suffrage groups/publications not covered yet that Proper was involved in. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:14, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl Yay! cool. I'll be here if you need me immersed in Liechtenstein, last European country to grant women suffrage. SusunW (talk) 17:19, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thank you for working on Ida Proper with me. :) I always enjoy collaborating with you and find I learn something new about research and citing every time. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:37, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I too totally enjoy collaborating with you. It is interesting how different the sources are which we each find and how well we can incorporate them into telling the life story of some amazing women. Proper clearly deserved to be rescued. :) SusunW (talk) 17:39, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I looked for a thread to place one link for fun, and this may be it ;) - I added Caroline Trevor to my red links (on BWV 4) and found this ;) - there may be DYK after all, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt Fabulous! One baby step at a time. May it become a full-time position if that is what she desires :) SusunW (talk) 15:50, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK possibilities

I was asking Yoninah but I thought I'd get your ideas too..

I was thinking of a DYK something like - Did you know that the Students at the College of Surgeons protested at being asked questions on Midwifery by a woman even when she was the exceptional Emily Winifred Dickson, first woman Fellow of the College?

Or Did you know that a professor refused to let Emily Winifred Dickson join his University course on the grounds that she cheated him because, he said, Winifred was a man's name?

OR - Did you know that Mary Ryan (academic), the first woman to be appointed as a Professor in either Ireland or Great Britain, could not attend lectures in the University when she was studying for her degree. Women were not yet allowed attend lectures even though they could graduate! ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 17:56, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Antiqueight You are limited to 200 characters in the hook. I use this tool: [13]

It has to be neutral, so avoid "flowery" descriptions. IMO, first hook would be better worded as:

...that the students at the Royal College of Surgeons protested at being asked questions on midwifery by Emily Winifred Dickson even though she was the college's first female Fellow?

ALT1 ... that one of her professors accused Emily Winifred Dickson of cheating, as he allowed her into his course believing Winifred to be a man's name?

On the other one, try:

... that Mary Ryan earned her BA from the Royal University of Ireland and graduated, though rules forbade her attending classes there? or

... that Mary Ryan, first woman professor in either Ireland or Britain, was forbidden to sit in lectures, but graduated after passing the Royal University of Ireland's BA examinations?

Obviously you don't have to use any of those. Also, list them, if you want on the chart so that others will know they need reviews. SusunW (talk) 18:23, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

You are a star - those sound great - I'll go through and see what works and follow the instructions - Hopefully I'll get it done this evening and you will see it there later. ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 18:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

When you have a minute can you check the DYK I just created and that I put it up on that list correctly? Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Ryan (academic) and chart. Should I have given you credit for the hook creation? ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 19:27, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Antiqueight Looks great. I made 2 minor tweaks. Just show the name, not the (academic) part in the nomination. And I put on the nomination that a QPQ is not required as it is your 2nd nomination. You are allowed 5 without having to do a QPQ. On the chart it looks great. Now, go to the main page of DYK Template talk:Did you know click on the day the file was created (March 7th) and copy the template {{Did you know nominations/Mary Ryan (academic)}} to the top of that day and save. SusunW (talk) 19:40, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 20:08, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Antiqueight You are most welcome. First couple of times, it's hard. After that, it gets easier ;) SusunW (talk) 20:21, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Marquesa del Ter

—♦♦ AMBER^(ЯʘCK) 00:08, 10 March 2016 (UTC) 12:01, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Reminder

Hi SusunW, after updating your DYK page, remember to update your total at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs. You may also want to add a DYK counter to your user page (see top right on my user page). Best, Yoninah (talk) 18:05, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you Yoninah I figure if I do it by the week, it is easier to remember :) didn't know I needed to update that page, so I will add it to my "to do" list. SusunW (talk) 18:17, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

I do it right away, with the article linked in the edit summary, so that I know how far I got ;) - I remember waiting for my name to come up there when I achieved #25, - but - as almost everything here - you have to do it yourself ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:21, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Thankfully for me, I have you and Yoninah looking out for me. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Had Yoninah not created it for me and told me I was over 100, I honestly would never have known :) SusunW (talk) 18:24, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

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FYI

Hi, I just came across your article on Shimizu Shikin while building prep sets, and notice that you were citing the editors of a book rather than the writer of the chapter. I reformatted the ref as a chapter ref rather than a book ref. You can find this template at WP:Citation templates; it's a little tricky to get used to, but when it works, it works! Best, Yoninah (talk) 13:55, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! As always, appreciate the help! SusunW (talk) 13:59, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

About the {{cite news}} template you are using for your Newspapers.com refs (as in Marguerite de Witt-Schlumberger): the newspaper should be listed under {{|newspaper= }}, not under {{|publisher= }} and not with italics added around the newspaper name. The only time names of newspapers are italicized by the template is when you use {{cite web |work= }}. Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:45, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah I use the drop-down box "templates" for citations. I don't really have time to manually look up each and every template when trying not to lose a train of thought writing an article. I would love it if some of those who are so heavily involved in MOS actually made the technology standardized and if they would add harv referencing to the drop down. I used to never italicize them, figuring if the MOS gurus wanted them italicized they would program the templates that way, but was nailed on the issue in a GA. SusunW (talk) 21:01, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Really? Interesting. Yoninah (talk) 21:12, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah Yep. When you go to edit any document and hit the "Cite" in the edit window, pull the newspapers drop down up and you'll see, the options are agency, i.e. AP, UPI, etc. or publisher. There is absolutely no reference to harv style whatsoever. SusunW (talk) 21:16, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I lost you. Where does it say "cite" in the edit window? Yoninah (talk) 21:18, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah when I hit edit, at the top of my window is a string of symbols B, I, signature, link, embed file, advanced, Special characters, Help, Cite. If you press Cite, a drop down appears to another level which says Templates (also with another set of dropdowns) Named references and error check. SusunW (talk) 21:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, neat! Can you believe I've been editing for more than 10 years and never noticed that string of symbols? Thanks – I'll try it out! Yoninah (talk) 21:24, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Yoninah I am amazed I knew something you didn't. Next question. Any idea why if I bracket child marriage it doesn't link to the file in Beatrice Greig's article? I've erased it and retyped it 3 times. SusunW (talk) 22:30, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Melitta Marxer

Hello! Your submission of Melitta Marxer at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia library Newspapers.com renewal

Hi SusunW, Your free one-year account with Newspapers.com will end on April 13 2016. Newspapers.com has offered to extend existing accounts by another year. If you wish to keep your account until April 13 2017, please add your name to the Account Renewal list here. I'll let Newspapers.com customer support know, and they will extend your subscription. If you don't want to keep your account for another year, you don't have to do anything. Your account will expire unless I hear from you that you want to keep it. HazelAB (talk) 17:41, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you HazelAB for the reminder. This is an invaluable resource for me. Definitely need it renewed. SusunW (talk) 17:52, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Olga Rapay-Markish

Great job! Do you know Russian as well as you know Spanish? Yes, the lives of Jews in Russia, especially during the Stalin era, were horrible. Stalin killed more people than Hitler. I added her Hebrew name and also did a little copyediting. Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:11, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Your help is always appreciated. Yes about the same...not at all. I live in Mexico, I can read Spanish because of its Latin roots, but I speak very little and understand very little when someone speaks to me. I have a fairly good eye for reading Romanian as well, but cannot speak it at all. French is impossible, I cannot read it nor speak it. I don't speak Russian or read it at all. Usually I put it through Google translate and then back through Bing translate and get the basic gist. I unfortunately have little skill with languages. *sigh* But have adapted translations using multiple programs to make fairly sure I have legitimate translations. Then I ask someone who really knows to make sure it is okay. SusunW (talk) 23:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Eugenia de Reuss Ianculescu

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Julia Solly

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Suzette Holten

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Shimizu Shikin

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Amanda Sidwall

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Concepción Felix

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:01, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Doris Stevens

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:02, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Marguerite de Witt-Schlumberger

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Františka Plamínková

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Olga Rapay-Markish

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Elida Campodónico

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Mary Davies (poet)

Hi, can you find anything more on her?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:54, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

I wish. Have searched all the usual sources, and find nothing other than the one you have. SusunW (talk) 23:47, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for looking anyway! Yes, sadly doesn't seem to be much on her available.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:50, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Marta Vergara

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:48, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to our April event

You are invited...
	Women Writers worldwide online edit-a-thon Hosts: Women in Red, Women writers April 2016 #wikiwomeninred

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DYK for Elina González Acha de Correa Morales

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Impact

Impact

Thank you for your impact
in being the driving force behind coverage (DYK?) of the fight for women's rights, especially the right to vote!

I don't know how many DYK credits you received exactly this month, six one day, one right now on the Main page, - every life and achievement of a woman covered with diligence and love for the topic, - admirable! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

A thank you from me, too. I appreciate what you do. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you both @Rosiestep and Gerda Arendt:! It has been an exhausting month. 31 articles written, 1 GA, 26 DYK articles nominated, 29 DYK articles reviewed. I have one more suffragist to write and then, I am slowing down. Too much like work and not enough like relaxation. Thank you Gerda for always being there to lift others up when they are struggling. SusunW (talk) 16:20, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for saying that, - now take it easy, perhaps read, perhaps about the boy pictured on the Main page, - birthday is tomorrow but they didn't want him among the April fool hooks. I made a new table, how's that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Melitta Marxer

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

April Fools? Nope! Welcome to the Women Scientists worldwide online edit-a-thon during Year of Science

Join us!
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DYK for Althea McNish

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

@Yoninah and Jolly Janner: I'm pinging you as I have no idea how to fix this. This should not be accredited to me. The only things I did with the file were remove the speedy deletion tag, fix some reference issues and add categories. The actual authors should get the credit. SusunW (talk) 16:16, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

The other authors got this message on their talk page too. Not sure why you were added to the credits. Jolly Ω Janner 20:52, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Avra Theodoropoulou

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

		Editor of the Week
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Editor Rosiestep submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate SusunW to be Editor of the Week for regularly writing and significantly expanding numerous articles on a regular basis [14][15][16] and for being a notable voice of reason in discussions with other editors. [17] SusunW actively and cheerfully performs the type of behind-the-scenes work that is not normally seen by the general Wikipedia community.[18] Her interest in Native American history, Women and Gender have led to her membership in Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History, Wikipedia:WikiProject Feminism and Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki. SusunW is not only a terrific editor but is a vital part of project discussions at Women in Red. This award was seconded by Dr. Blofeld

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Thanks again for your efforts! Buster Seven Talk 14:06, 2 April 2016 (UTC)