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Hey

Oi, you haven't put your email into your preferences!

Only reason I noticed is that I usually ask this privately, but anyway...fancy a shot at RFA? I would be happy to nominate you. Best, Moreschi (talk) (debate) 22:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oi, Moreschi, I've sent you an email so you'll have my address if you ever need it. Thanks for the offer and your confidence. But... admin-ing would take too much time away from what I really enjoy – writing articles, rescuing worthy kittens from being drowned at AfDs, and helping out on the Opera Project. The latter can provide quite enough wiki-drama as it is. ;-). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

See also [1]. Voceditenore (talk) 10:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

It was a delight...

...to read this brilliant piece. And I wasn't even looking for it; I came here to thank you for backing me up on the GA issue on Egardus, since that's something that's been bugging me for a while and had to get off my chest. But your essay was spot-on. Oops, there I go again, pretending to be an adult! Need to get a bouncier, animated signature ... Antandrus (talk) 23:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll make you one if you promise to give me three barnstars. ;-) Seriously, though thanks for the kind review. I wrote that when WP was in the midst of an invasion by a particularly... er... time-consuming... bunch of 13 year olds. At one point there was even a WikiProject (now deleted) that was awarding them barnstars for every 1000 edits, every 50 AfD's "voted on", every 5 (hapless) editors they adopted, etc., etc.. For a while, I and a couple of other editors spent all our time running around cleaning up after them, until they lost interest and/or got blocked. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Much appreciation

Hi, Voceditenore. Thanks for the beautiful rewrite on John Andrew Rea. I would prefer not having to delete noteworthy articles, but the current backlog at copyright violations leaves me little time to revise much text. (Especially in Moonriddengirl's absence.) I just wanted you to know that I very much appreciate your contributions. Cheers. — CactusWriter | ^needles 06:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome ;-) and you were absolutely right to delete it. If you have time, could you do me a favour? I've re-written Juliette Pochin on Talk:Juliette Pochin/Temp. Would it possible to move it into article space. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:33, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Done. Another nice job -- and better still was your discussion with the original creator on the talk page. "...Teach a man to fish..." etc. You're a good teacher. Cheers. — CactusWriter | ^needles 16:13, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! In my university teaching days, I once had a student who plagiarsed my own book in her essay. But at least it took some effort, bless her. She typed it out from the hardcopy — must have taken ages. Re "teaching how to fish...", I'm not sure how many new fishermen it produces for Wikipedia. In the Opera Project we get a lot of articles for singers, opera companies, etc. created by their agents and PR people, and sometimes themselves. In my experience, the best I can hope for is that they'll edit their article according to the guidelines in future. I have yet to find one who has ever contributed anything else to Wikipedia. Their only interest in the project is as a PR tool. Having said that, at least it results (after much red-pencilling from other editors) in one new article on a notable subject that we didn't have before. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for teaching me also, about every singer to opera and avoiding answers.com! I keep supplying singers to the project who never sing opera, last Dorothee Mields. When I found a Bach singer who also sang opera I nominated that fact for DYK, Franz Kelch, to be 95 this year, no PR involved. Unfortunately the only source for him I found in English reads like a machine translation. Any help in that case? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

My god, plagiarizing the prof's own book -- that's sadly funny -- the very definition of clueless. I would suggest she switch majors. I know what you mean about bulk of submissions coming from PR types. (It's one of the reasons I refrain from offering copyright violators much opportunity to license the source website -- the promotional text couldn't be used anyway.) But, occasionally, unexpectedly, when the stars align just so... you'll come across a true angler among the crowd of daytrippers. When is that next blue moon anyway? — CactusWriter | ^needles 19:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Assistance Please

Hello Voceditenore. Would you please check my user talk page? Some time ago you were assisting me in the creation of a new page, ".Gabriel". As you requested, I posted my request on that page but haven't heard from you. I understand you are very busy but would really appreciate your help. Thank you!TF537 (talk) 21:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Infobox

Please see edit request. In the meantime, you can use put the alt in the image parameter. e.g. |image=[[File:example.png|200px|alt=Example alt text]] Racepacket (talk) 21:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

• Image_alt parameter has been added to {{Infobox play}} Racepacket (talk) 22:16, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

• Great! Thanks so much! I'll add it to La Tosca. I used your "get-around" for the book infobox at I Love Bacon!. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:06, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Coming of Age (BBC TV series)

I would question why the BBC are allowed to vandalise the page and put blatant propaganda on there suggesting that the response to the programme was mixed in some way, when in fact it was universally appalling. Every time real and referenced reviews are put up, they are taken down by some BBC apparatchik dickhead. Why are they not censored? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.176.103 (talk) 18:06, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with "real and referenced reviews" being taken down. You deliberately inserted false and in several cases defamatory content about living people in multiple articles related to this show, as well adding as your personal commentary disguised to make it look as if it were a quote referenced from a reliable source, e.g. [2], [3], [4], [5]. You are going to get your IP, aka Oxford University, blocked if you keep it up. Voceditenore (talk) 18:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Travesti/Victorian burlesque

Tim just did a nice job expanding the Victorian burlesque article. Does anything need to be added back and forth between this and the Travesti article that you are working on? Just a thought. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

What do you think of the current merge proposal at Burlesque (literature)? I wonder if merging it into the poorly-written Burlesque article will destroy any value (or chance at expansion) that it may have. Your comments would be valued at Talk:Burlesque. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, V. You may find this article of interest: http://www.jstor.org/pss/3826405 -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:20, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Steve. I'm going to file this away for when I next add to Travesti. I've still got a bit to do re the ballet sections. But I never seem to get the time. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Keto and Kote

Many thanks for re-establishing this article. During copy-edit driving I found the previous version a complete copy-and-paste violation from inception; I was the one who tagged for deletion. I have to say your succinct but elegant stub is superb, and should be set as an example of “how to do it”’. I have a tendency to reduce faulty articles to the brusque and barren, so I will log your Keto and Kote as a guiding light. In admiration. Acabashi (talk) 03:24, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Castrato parts

Hehe :) Moreschi (talk) 17:38, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Above comment is in response to this. Voceditenore (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Burlesque

Thanks for watching the dead links. It's a big shame that the PeoplePlayUK site went down, as it had a huge amount of info for Victorian articles. I think that most of the content migrated somewhere, but I'm not sure where. Any idea? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:03, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, the only dead link was PeoplePlayUK. The other 2 were spam/copyvio. Anyhow, the Theatre Museum's contents are now held by the Victoria & Albert. See the V & A's Theatre and Performance collections page. If you search the V & A collections, the online objects generally come with a lot of informative text in addition to the image. See this, for example. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:40, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Carmen

I have finished my work on this. The peer review threw up some interesting suggestions, many of which have been absorbed into the article. It is now at FAC (please take a look), and I am working on improving and extending the discography subarticle. I have not done anything with the "adaptations" which were removed from the older version of the article, and it may be a while before I can get to deciding what should be done here. Brianboulton (talk) 18:16, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations on getting it to FA, Brian! I'm going to be away for the next 2 weeks and wouldn't be able to help with an "adaptations" page anyway. One of the advantages of page like that is to keep all sorts of minor (and often very trivial) distractions out of the main article. A popular work like this is particularly prone to that kind of stuff, often added "drive-by" without references or context. But let's see how it goes. There may not be a need for an "adaptations", at least in the near future. By the way, can you get the Carmen Filmography link to work? I can't and have tried multiple times. :/ Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I will continue improving the discography article as time permits. In due course I'll open a rudimentary "adaptations" article for the purpose you describe; it won't be long before the trivia merchants start tampering with the main article. It went through the FAC process so smoothly and swiftly that I can't help an uneasy feeling that something important got missed. Brianboulton (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Smithsonian updates website!

Hi Voceditenore! The Smithsonian Institution Archives took notice of your finding about Clara Hasse's death date and will be updating their records, website and Flickr! The changes should take place tomorrow. So thanks for the great find! Sarah (talk) 14:23, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. It's nice to see that the traffic between Wikipedia and its sources goes both ways. Last year I got the Encyclopedic Discography of Victor Recordings at UCSB to change a glaring error on their database which found while I was researching Stanislao Gastaldon. In the process, I discovered another and even more whopping error in New Grove Dictionary of Opera which had been propagated all over the internet, but that's Grove's problem. OK, now I'm off to give the Harvard library system a nudge over this. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Tobias

Apologies if this is in the wrong place (finding out how to contribute to Wikipedia is a very steep learning curve and I've only just learnt Joomla, brain hurting!). Huge thanks for the rewriting and reformatting of the article on Dove's Tobias and the Angel. I'd only just discovered it was there and found it was so incomplete and inaccurate it needed some serious input. Having been in the project from the very beginning I felt I had the authority to write on it, and did post some material from my website - hadn't realised this seems to count as conflict of interest. But it certainly doesn't violate copyright which presumably belongs to me, and I'd like to be able to insert a photo of the Birmingham production, would this be allowed? I'd be very grateful if you had time to help me on this. Kate Quartano Brown (talk) 15:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Little favour

A while back I did some work de-fluffing Richard Gombrich. I think it still needs some more, but I have a little learning to the most dangerous degree and can't really see the wood for the trees. I'm pretty sure the structure is still hagiographic. May I ask if you could do a quick brisk hacking back of the undergrowth? Am pretty sure that the list of publications goes way beyond the notable, too. Amuse yourself by reading how it looked five years ago almost-instinct 12:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks

I'm grateful for your clear explanation and kind welcome on my first interaction with Wikipedia. The format here is slightly intimidating and I'm wary of breaking taboos or upsetting anyone so your breakdown and reassurance was greatly appreciated. :-)

SonnySonnyWilliamson (talk) 11:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Giovanna Gray

DYK gong archived here. Voceditenore (talk) 09:35, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I just wanted to say, nice job on the Giovanna Gray article. Going to the old, foreign language sources is something not everyone can do, and it makes a big difference. David.thompson.esq (talk) 13:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, David. I had a lot fun writing that. Most of the articles I write tend to be of this type, e.g., Cristina, regina di Svezia, Mala Pasqua!, Stanislao Gastaldon, Andrea Salvadori, Eugenia Tadolini. I figure that for the really famous composers, operas, singers, etc. there are plenty of online sources, but for these, the only place people will be able to find detailed information, in English, and free of charge is Wikipedia. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Image

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004008982/resource/

What do you think of this image, which also covers an opera singer without photo? Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 21:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

It's OK, but I'd never use it for Lillian Grenville. The one of her alone will be much better for that article. It's also a much more arresting image than this rather stilted duo. But this one would be good for Gustave Huberdeau and Natoma (kills 2 birds with one stone for that article). Voceditenore (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Here are some more possibilities for articles and future articles with no images:

• http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ggbain.00006/ for Eleonora de Cisneros

• http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004000007/ Josephine Jacoby (Met contralto)

The Bain collection is very badly annotated, I'm just plowing slowly through all the images and clicking on ones that likely to be opera singers. I may find some more...

Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Any idea which Stephano the Jacoby is? Niklausse is almost certainly Tales of Hoffmann, but I'm not sure off-hand about a Stephano trousers role. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:10, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I assume Roméo et Juliette she sang it many times at the Met at around the time that picture was taken [6], and her career was almost entirely at the Met. Voceditenore (talk) 19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Ah, thought that would've been too high for her, since Wikipedia labels it as a soprano part. If she sang it, though, it's probably that. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:58, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

The Met lists her as a mezzo-soprano (rather than contralto), and the role is frequently sung and recorded by mezzos, e.g. Kristine Jepson, Susan Graham, etc. Voceditenore (talk) 10:18, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Rosine Stoltz

Some time ago, you started the article on Rosine Stoltz. There is now a discussion about the date of her death. I wonder if you could consult your original sources and let us know. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:58, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Rosine Stoltz. Voceditenore (talk) 13:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Notre-Dame de Clignancourt

A most pleasing new article. I'll add the church to my itinerary for a vaguely-planned, Fauré-themed wander round Paris. Don't bother to reply to this: I just wanted to express my appreciation. – Tim riley (talk) 19:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Di Fiorino et al.

Ciao Voce. I hope this finds you well. Our paths once again cross in Mario Di Fiorino, and I notice your work in Gruppo del Rosario. There is a connection between Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry, the closely connected, newly created bios Maria Luisa Figueira and Mario Di Fiorino, as well as edits made by the same users in e.g. Davide Lazzeretti, Leonetto Amadei, Ganser syndrome, and Mind control. I reverted in Leonetto Amadei, and left a note on the editor's page, and subsequently tried to add info from the .it article Leonetto Amadei. (It appears that the Italian Leonette Amadei has had additions similar to the ones made to the English.) The English version has had the same material re-added. I restored an older version of Davide Lazzeretti. I have raised attention about this pattern (WP:COATRACK?) on WikiProject Medicine and WikiProject Psycholog, alas, not to much avail. Maybe it is something you would like to look into? Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 21:05, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sam, hmmm, yes, I've noticed this interesting little can of worms. On the Italian WP, some of their stuff has been deleted outright, e.g. Mario di Fiorino, Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry and Psichiatria e Territorio (also founded by Di Fiorino) or reverted in existing articles, e.g. Leonetto Amadei, Davide Lazzeretti. Often, however, a "new" editor pops up to re-add the stuff, as happens here. The editors also use the same arguments they use here: "It's in the Italian/English Wikipedia so it's ok".

Several of the SPAs active here have been blocked for sockpuppetry at the Italian WP [7], [8], [9]. I'm not sure if they're sock or meat puppets, but without getting into outing, Google searches on their user names reveal that all are from the Pisa/Forte dei Marmi/Viareggio area. A couple are students of Di Fiorino or his colleagues, one works for a hotel in Forte dei Marmi and helps organize functions for Di Fiorino's symposia, two have co-authored articles with Di Fiorino, one appears to be Di Fiorino himself, etc. etc. I would say that just about every red-linked contributor since August to the articles you've cited is in some way connected to Di Fiorino and all their contributions here need checking. Some of them have extensively edited psychology/psychiatry articles in addition to the ones you've mentioned. Note also this sandbox. There's obviously more to come.

Anyhow, here's my take on some of the articles:

• Maria Luisa Figueira passes, seems reasonably notable.
• Mario Di Fiorino probably just scrapes but I'm going to wield the red pencil extensively there.
• I'm going to stub Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry and probably redirect it later to Di Fiorino
• Suggest we keep a watch on Leonetto Amadei, clearly being used as a coatrack and needs excising and building up. He's definitely notable.
• Ditto Davide Lazzeretti.

If we meet resistance from the "consortium" of Tuscan editors, then we take 'em to WP:COI/N. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 22:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Beautiful to see the logic you apply when investigating, I learned a lot. Thanks! Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 00:04, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Want me to do {{cite books}} in the Publications section of Mario Di Fiorino? Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 09:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Caldara +

Thank you for the Caldara opera, here's another: La concordia de' pianeti [10], --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gerda. You're welcome :). I've added quite a bit more to it now. Apparently, Tito e Berenice was part of contest! I might do La concordia once the German performance actually takes place. In the meantime, I'll be working on creating the other two Operas of the Month, by papa Scarlatti and his son. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. After I closed my shop completely (see my talk, - I kept the ironing lady) I suddenly feel very busy with a man whose boss is the pope and a painter stub, not mentioning the GA nom for Chéreau. Did you see that I mention singing as occupation in my own (bzzt, unspeakable)? (Derived from "Singen, singen" in the Christmas Story by Schütz). In choir, we will concentrate on Schütz and Rutter, Magnificat by both, I hope I will get in the mood until July / October / November. Certainly not if we keep losing a great editor every week, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

*taps microphone*

Is it safe to come back....? almost-instinct 15:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Yep :) Great to see you, A-I! I miss those happy hours we spent de-pufferizing articles. I had to whack this one all by myself. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:56, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Mmmm maybe not so safe after all.... almost-instinct 13:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Ah, you mean below? I think you'll be OK . I only mention it if I'm specifically asked. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

It's not you I'm worried about ;) almost-instinct 11:19, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Anna Schoen-René

Hi voceditenore. I just read some interesting articles on this lady and thought you might enjoy penning an article on her. Here are some potential sources:

• http://www.nycommunitytrust.org/Portals/0/Uploads/Documents/BioBrochures/Mme.%20Anna%20E.%20Schoen-Rene.pdf
• http://books.google.com/books?id=oLAMtq6dtFkC&pg=PA21&dq=%27von+schoen%27+%22agriculture%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qU8NU6W3OaLiyAG2koCoCw&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q='von%20schoen'%20%22agriculture%22&f=false
• http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/48/v48i08p332-338.pdf

Best wishes.4meter4 (talk) 02:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow! She sounds like quite a character, 4meter4. I'm sort of up to my eyeballs at the moment, but I'll keep this here to remind me to get 'round to it eventually, if someone else doesn't first. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:44, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Sharon Ruchman

Thanks for your recent cleanup/removing promotional/un-encyclopedic information from Sharon Ruchman. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi David. I'm away until the end of April, but I'm rather minded to PROD it or take it to AfD. But I'll need to do a little research first. I had a look at the talk page of the reviewer who had accepted it. Dear Oh Dear. :) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:05, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, thanks. Some of the articles on Gluck's major operas need more work, but I'm probably not going to touch them until next year. I thought I'd produce a bunch of stubs on the Baroque and minor Classical works then add to them bit by bit. I noticed you discovered the Gluck Gesamtausgabe online, a very useful find. Some of the information is very interesting. For example, I don't think there can be many operas where the entire cast was made up of archduchesses and the work was conducted by a future emperor.

BTW I think La danza (Gluck) is beyond start-class, at least C. There's not much you can really say about an opera Julian Rushton dismisses as "a slight work". The Penguin Guide to Opera on CD doesn't even bother trying to give synopsis, saying there is "no plot or development whatsoever." Having read the libretto, I can sympathise with that! Cheers.--Folantin (talk) 10:32, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Article on Leela Bordia

Hi

I have made some further inputs to the said Article on Leela Bordia. Please have a look at it and give me your suggestions on whether i am on the right path and plz guide regarding corrections if any, since i am just a beginner.

Regards

The iWriter ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by The iWriter (talk • contribs) 12:51, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello, The iWriter. I assume you mean the draft User:The iWriter/sandbox? I'll have a look at it later today or tomorrow. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 13:06, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Voceditenore

Yes plz and thanks

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Ada Cherry Kearton

You may remember doing some work on Ada Cherry Kearton. I thought you would like to now that the BBC now link to it, from http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/castaway/06c4739d#p009y95q - Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:49, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Andy. Thanks for letting me know. By the way, I haven't forgotten about David Ward, I've just been a bit busy with other stuff. I hope to get to it in the New Year. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:06, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Message from Lisaby

Hello Voceditenore. You may remember me from the Alessandra Marianelli bio.

I'd like to create one now for Sylvia Schwartz.

The main problem with my first attempt was that I didn't know how to evaluate the various sources of information I found. You considered many that I proposed as inadequate.

For Sylvia Schwartz, could I send you a list of the sources I've found (not their contents), so that you could tell me which to exclude?

Many thanks for all you do for Opera on Wikipedia,

Lisaby 18:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Lisaby. Many apologies for this late reply! I suggest that you list your proposed sources at User:Lisaby/Sylvia Schwartz. I'm about to be travelling for the next two weeks. But I will definitely have a look when I get back. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Verismo & Puccini

Hi, I did a fairly extensive rewrite of the Verismo (music) page, following up on our discussions on the talk page there almost 2 years (!) ago. I think it could still use some more quality citations, but I wondered if you'd provide any other suggestions. I left the section on verismo singers pretty much alone, although it is not well cited and I have some doubts about what it is saying. Also, I've been chipping away at the Puccini page, and would welcome suggestions there. Specifically, in terms of structure. The Puccini article has a chronological account of his works, followed by about 5 or 6 sections that address some aspect of his life non-chronologically. I can't help but wonder if it wouldn't be better to integrate this material into the main chronology, as in the Verdi page, but that would require a very substantial rewrite. Thoughts? David.thompson.esq (talk) 00:29, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi David. Sorry for my tardy reply. I got quite sidetracked this past month, mainly by my runaway librettist. I'm about to be travelling for the next two weeks. Will definitely have a look when I get back. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:30, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Upon your return

Tranche 1

• Draft:Howard Williams (conductor). Found this source particularly amusing. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 00:51, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Accepted by another editor and rightly so, but it's a bit of a mess format-wise. Voceditenore (talk) 10:39, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
• Draft:Willie Thomas (jazz trumpeter). FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:49, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

He could probably make it. I've added a couple of refs to it. Voceditenore (talk) 12:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

• Draft:Anu Komsi. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 14:38, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Hmmm. Seems to have been deleted at creator's request, but I think she is a reasonably notable singer. Voceditenore (talk) 12:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
• Draft:Michel Sogny. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
  • This one is clearly notable. It should not have been rejected, but cleaned up slightly to remove puffery and fix the English. There were already enough refs to establish notability. I've added yet another + authority control. If I were you I'd move it to article space. Voceditenore (talk) 12:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
• Draft:David Blair McClosky (1902-1988). FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 20:23, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I think this guy passes with the refs I've added. Voceditenore (talk) 16:14, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
• Draft:Daniel Kharitonov. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 20:26, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I'd say he passes but it needs better refs. There are a lot in the Russian press [11] + there is a lot of stuff in his article on Russian Wikipedia [12] which interestingly hasn't been updated to include the Tchaikovsky Competition
• Draft:Okkyung Lee. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 11:38, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I've added four refs to substantial coverage. She's also been broadcast on Ö1 (very notable Austrian radio station) [13]. A niche artist/genre but a notable one. I'd pass it. Voceditenore (talk) 08:05, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
• Draft:DANG PHU VINH. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 01:52, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Don't think I'd pass this one. He's basically a high school music teacher, and latterly a teacher in the Conservatory of Ho Chi Minh City. Not really enough to pass WP:MUSICBIO. There may be coverage of him in the Vietnamese-language press, but I kind of doubt it. Note also there's some very inappropriate BLP speculation, which suggests that hard facts about his life and career are not available. Voceditenore (talk) 08:12, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hi FoCuS! I'm starting on these with the oldest first. Will try to get to the rest of this tranche in a couple of days. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Me again, FoCuS! I've finished this tranche. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:12, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Tranche 2

• Draft:Gerard Brophy (composer). FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 17:08, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Matthew Stevens (musician). FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 14:33, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Konrad Paszkudzki (musician). FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 00:19, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Marcus Weiss. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 16:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Tracy Dahl. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 23:25, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Tranche 3

• Draft:Thea Soti. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 23:29, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Lloyd Newson. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 11:47, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Hélène Breschand. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 13:23, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Nathalie Krassovska. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 23:05, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Nilo Hovey. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 15:06, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Ronny Lee. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Jamison Ross. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:30, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Emirates NBD Classics. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 00:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Richard Lin (violinist). FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:32, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
• Richard Kimball (pianist / composer). FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:24, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Tranche 4

• Draft:Stanley Silverman. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 14:09, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:So You Want to Write a Fugue?. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 03:21, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Maria Gheorghiu. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 03:23, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Bill Asher (guitar maker). FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 03:33, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Curtis Macdonald. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 17:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Faraz Minooei. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 14:11, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Tamar Rachum. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 11:51, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Eric Lu. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 00:05, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Eugene Haynes. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 17:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Luiz Gonzaga Carneiro. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 17:25, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Michael Kibbe. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 18:18, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Tranche 5

• Draft:History of the Lansdowne Symphony Orchestra. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 21:51, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Jonathan Holloway (artistic director). FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 02:44, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Wajdi Shaya. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 01:15, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Olga Jegunova. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:34, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Brighton Festival Chorus. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 02:30, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Andrew Joslyn. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 20:55, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
• Draft:Chesbro Music Company. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:46, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
• Draft:Rohan Dasgupta. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:39, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
• Draft:Karlovac Piano Festival. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:48, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
• Draft:Ensemble Dal Niente. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 22:50, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

On another note, can't believe Piano Concerto No. 1 (Chopin) is such a poor article, considering it's one of the most played romantic pieces of all time. I'll see if I can do something about that. FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 18:59, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

• Hi FoCuS! I haven't forgotten you :). I'll start plowing through the list tomorrow. I'll add my comments beneath each one in the list but won't ping each time unless you want me to. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:00, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

• No worries, Voce, I appreciate it! I'll pop by every other day. Cheers, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 18:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

• I just accepted Chamber Symphony No. 5 (Milhaud) and Little Symphony No. 4 (Milhaud). They're in need of copy editing. I added the Milhaud template at the bottom. Cheers, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 20:04, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

• Hi FoCuS! I haven't forgotten you. I've just been really busy both on- and off- Wiki. I'll try to get to some of these next week. In the meantime, you might want to drop a note at WikiProject Classical music re the Milhaud articles. Someone there may be willing to give them a polish. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:49, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Also, is Karen Holvik truly notable? I was thinking of nominating the article for deletion due to lack of coverage about her. Best, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 15:45, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
    • Hi FoCuS! It was sent to AfD and kept back in 2005. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karen Holvik. The article is lousy and the notability is very marginal. I might have a go at cleaning it up and seeing what sort of independent referencing I can find. Might be worth holding off on this one. She may have some significant recordings. Voceditenore (talk) 10:37, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Íride Martínez

Hello, Thank you very much for updating the talk page of Draft:Íride Martínez. I would like to ask for advise on article review. Would you know where I could ask to have the article reviewed to see if it can be moved to the mainspace. Your help with this would be greatly appreciated.Besenok (talk) 19:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Besenok. I'm abroad at the moment with not terribly good internet access. But I'll try to review the draft when I get back in September, if I don't manage it before then. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 06:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 14

Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library/Newsletter/October-November2015

Small World

Dear VdiT, Tonight, as I was suggesting to my brother that he join Wikipedia, I thought to show him the Butter Rebellion article that my daughter had written. Because I hadn't visited it in years, I checked the history, and who should I run into but your gracious self? I nearly fell off my chair. Thank you for protecting its integrity!

Thank you also for helping my Berklee students again this semester. Those who solicited your help were more than amply rewarded, and we were very grateful.

Best wishes to you for a happy Christmas and a joyous New Year. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 02:06, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi IJ! That's a real blast from the past—it was 2007 when I stumbled onto it—and an amazing coincidence. Happy Holidays to you too and all your family, especially your daughter. Voceditenore (talk) 19:47, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Women in Music

Editathon Note to self. Voceditenore (talk) 08:57, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Operas for the month of January

I attempted to set up Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/OotM/January2016, but I am afraid I don't understand it well enough to get it to work. Mind lending a hand? Thanks.4meter4 (talk) 20:20, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi 4meter4! I just figured out what happened. The labels on those templates are an artefact from the olden days and kind of confusing. We used to have only one collaboration, Composer of the Month which started in 2006, primarily to fill in their red-linked operas but its templates were prefixed Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/OotM/... Not sure why. Then we added a second collaboration for Singer of the Month for red-linked singers. That template was prefixed Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/SotM/... but in January 2009, the collaboration was changed to Opera of the Month to focus on improving existing articles on operas and subjects related to them. Nevertheless its template retains the Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/SotM/... prefix. Having said that, there's a fair amount of flexibility in actually filling them out and I sometimes use Opera of Month to list red-linked operas. Voceditenore (talk) 17:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

New Year's Greetings

Dear VdiT, Thank you for your kind season's greetings to my students and me. You were a great help to the Berklee students last fall, particularly through the grace that you demonstrated when you wrote to the deleting editors. We'll strive to bring this year's user pages more in line with Wikipedia policies.

Speaking of which, both Longy and Berklee will participate this spring. May I recommend you to them?

My daughter Caroline loved the connection that we three have made.

All best wishes in the New Year. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 21:43, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Saluti dalla Calabria e gentile richiesta di traduzione per it:Mauro Cozzoli in inglese

Buongiorno dalla Calabria,

la scrivo per salutarla e sapere come sta, qui è arrivato il freddo da qualche giorno anche se abbiamo sempre il sole. Oltre a questo le chiedo la cortesia di tradurre in inglese l'articolo su un presbitero, teologo e scrittore italiano, molto attivo anche nei paesi germanofoni, anglosassoni e dell'Europa Nord Orientale. Giusto 10 minuti al massimo da dedicarmi, con la cortese la ringrazio in anticipo di vero cuore per l'aiuto che mi darà. a presto!--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 11:39, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you so much for helping and editing the Teisseire page! Great work, and so appreciated!

FoscaF (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome, Fosca. Teisseire is quite a fascinating company, as I discovered. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 17:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

IAC?

Hi Voceditenore and @Sitush: Just looking for your thoughts on whether the newly created article Sarabjit Roy is related to the Sock/Meatfarm. I know this name is closely associated with that, and the article was just created and subsequently pruned of massive copyright violations. Thanks, Crow<sup>Caw</sup> 21:26, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Probably. There were also some odd goings-on last week involving a contributor who is now blocked. Several people thought it likely that they were a returning IAC sock but they got blocked on more general grounds anyway. We may be entering another fun-packed period after the hiatus of recent months. I wonder what has brought this on? There most likely is something afoot in India. - Sitush (talk) 22:00, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Crow. As Sitush says, it's more than possible. Sarabjit Roy is an odd spelling of his name, possibly deliberate. Sarbajit Roy (the spelling he uses on his websites) was deleted and protected from creation in November 2014 [14] following this RfD discussion. I can't give much of an opinion since I cannot see the revisions deleted in the present article nor in the deleted original article. (It was originally an article, and then changed to redirect.) I suggest you contact an admin who can see the previous versions of the original Sarbajit Roy and the revisions of this one for comparison. In any case, I would think that there are grounds for speedy deleting this one on the basis of the original protection from creation. Voceditenore (talk) 08:21, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

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Editor MelanieN submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

User Voceditenore has been editing Wikipedia since January 25, 2006; it would seem very appropriate to honor her on her tenth anniversary here. She has made more than 85,000 edits and created hundreds of articles, primarily about music. She also rescues articles, reviews new article submissions, and works as a copyright problems clerk. Her gracious presence here and her invaluable contributions deserve recognition.

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