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:Hi Walter, I was actually about to post something to your talk page, but I'll put it here instead. I really don't think the confrontational attitude is necessary. Could you indicate where I've been "chastised for this"? I don't recall ever having been, and I'm certainly not trying to "bully other editors into doing this my way". I don't want to get into an edit war with you about it, but in my experience the standard [[WP:SS|summary style]] for discography sections with a link to a main discography article is to have the small header "Studio albums" to indicate to readers what the content of the partial list in the section is. It may be obvious to us, as editors who frequently work on such articles, but readers should have some label to give context to the items in a list. See also [[User talk:TheOnlyOne12#Removing "studio albums" from discography sections|this request]] I made to an editor who's gone around removing this notation from many articles. ''I'' didn't put those headers there to begin with (I don't recall ever editing most of the articles in question before), but I do think they ought to be there, and that's the practice I've seen on many good and featured articles. See for example [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aaliyah&oldid=341506364#Discography Aaliyah], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AC/DC&oldid=102037046#Discography AC/DC], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alice_in_Chains&oldid=190471867#Discography Alice in Chains], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=R.E.M.&oldid=186478088#Discography R.E.M], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Radiohead&oldid=182721067#Discography Radiohead], all at time of FA promotion. --[[User:IllaZilla|IllaZilla]] ([[User talk:IllaZilla#top|talk]]) 15:40, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
:Hi Walter, I was actually about to post something to your talk page, but I'll put it here instead. I really don't think the confrontational attitude is necessary. Could you indicate where I've been "chastised for this"? I don't recall ever having been, and I'm certainly not trying to "bully other editors into doing this my way". I don't want to get into an edit war with you about it, but in my experience the standard [[WP:SS|summary style]] for discography sections with a link to a main discography article is to have the small header "Studio albums" to indicate to readers what the content of the partial list in the section is. It may be obvious to us, as editors who frequently work on such articles, but readers should have some label to give context to the items in a list. See also [[User talk:TheOnlyOne12#Removing "studio albums" from discography sections|this request]] I made to an editor who's gone around removing this notation from many articles. ''I'' didn't put those headers there to begin with (I don't recall ever editing most of the articles in question before), but I do think they ought to be there, and that's the practice I've seen on many good and featured articles. See for example [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aaliyah&oldid=341506364#Discography Aaliyah], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=AC/DC&oldid=102037046#Discography AC/DC], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alice_in_Chains&oldid=190471867#Discography Alice in Chains], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=R.E.M.&oldid=186478088#Discography R.E.M], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Radiohead&oldid=182721067#Discography Radiohead], all at time of FA promotion. --[[User:IllaZilla|IllaZilla]] ([[User talk:IllaZilla#top|talk]]) 15:40, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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User:Yash submitted the following nomination for [[WP:Editor of the Week|Editor of the Week]]:

Allow me to introduce [[IllaZilla]]. I remember when I first saw this award, his name poped right into my head. IllaZilla is a true, hard working and dedicated content writer. He has been here for 9 long years and has written over 200 articles, started and maintained a WikiProject (Alien), worked extensively with articles related to the ''Alien'' films (1 FA and 2 GAs), punk rock (especially Blink-182), emo and has indirectly contributed a lot to a number of articles that are GAs today. Nearly 60% of his 59K edits come from the main space. He has dedicated a great amount of his time to many articles which is evident from the fact that he has an impressive 100+ edits to about 60 articles. Other than that, he has provided more than 70 photographs of a number of bands and musicians. IllaZilla has been an excellent long standing editor and a very valuable asset. It is my pleasure to nominate him; he truly deserves to be rewarded. This nomination was supported by [[User:Titodutta]] and [[User:MelanieN]].
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Thanks again for your efforts! . [[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 12:24, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

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 – I didn't quite see your banner at the top, I apologize

AM! songs

Hi Illa,

Hope you are well :) I was wondering if it would be worth making a new article for a comprehensive list of Against Me! songs, both released and unreleased? How would I go about doing this?

Aaron — Preceding unsigned comment added by AarnKrry (talkcontribs) 22:18, 6 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi AarnKrry, nice to hear from you again. I'm glad you're still active (I had a Wikibreak of about 2 years). I don't know about the idea of a list article compiling all of Against Me!'s songs, especially unreleased ones. There are already articles for every one of the band's releases, plus Against Me! discography which includes an "Other appearances" section specifically for songs they released outside of their own catalog (such as on compilations). Every song the band has released is (probably) already listed between those articles. The idea of listing unreleased songs doesn't sit well with me...how would you verify their existence if they're unreleased? That would require careful sourcing. And what's the purpose of listing unreleased songs, other than to pique the interest of AM! superfans? I've seen such lists before, within discography article/sections, and they inevitably turn into an exhaustive fans' listing of every cover song the band ever played live, every song idea they came up with but later scrapped, and every title a member mentioned in passing in some 'zine interview. To me, this doesn't really serve an encyclopedic purpose.
I don't mean to discourage you, and if you want to start such an article there's certainly precedent for it. Take a look at Category:Lists of songs by recording artists for examples. Some of them have even been rated Featured Lists; I suggest you use one of the ones in Category:FL-Class song articles as a template if you're serious about it (look for the ones titled "List of songs recorded by..."). You could start it in your userspace by creating User:AarnKrry/List of songs recorded by Against Me!, and move it into article space once you think it's ready. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:14, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's not about partial lists

You have been chastised for this and I have been reverting it everywhere I've seen it been added. Please stop adding it. It's not necessary. You're trying to bully other editors into doing this your way. Please stop. Please gain consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music or some similar project. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:29, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Walter, I was actually about to post something to your talk page, but I'll put it here instead. I really don't think the confrontational attitude is necessary. Could you indicate where I've been "chastised for this"? I don't recall ever having been, and I'm certainly not trying to "bully other editors into doing this my way". I don't want to get into an edit war with you about it, but in my experience the standard summary style for discography sections with a link to a main discography article is to have the small header "Studio albums" to indicate to readers what the content of the partial list in the section is. It may be obvious to us, as editors who frequently work on such articles, but readers should have some label to give context to the items in a list. See also this request I made to an editor who's gone around removing this notation from many articles. I didn't put those headers there to begin with (I don't recall ever editing most of the articles in question before), but I do think they ought to be there, and that's the practice I've seen on many good and featured articles. See for example Aaliyah, AC/DC, Alice in Chains, R.E.M, and Radiohead, all at time of FA promotion. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:40, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Editor of the Week

Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week for your long-term efforts to improve Wikipedia. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Yash submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

Allow me to introduce IllaZilla. I remember when I first saw this award, his name poped right into my head. IllaZilla is a true, hard working and dedicated content writer. He has been here for 9 long years and has written over 200 articles, started and maintained a WikiProject (Alien), worked extensively with articles related to the Alien films (1 FA and 2 GAs), punk rock (especially Blink-182), emo and has indirectly contributed a lot to a number of articles that are GAs today. Nearly 60% of his 59K edits come from the main space. He has dedicated a great amount of his time to many articles which is evident from the fact that he has an impressive 100+ edits to about 60 articles. Other than that, he has provided more than 70 photographs of a number of bands and musicians. IllaZilla has been an excellent long standing editor and a very valuable asset. It is my pleasure to nominate him; he truly deserves to be rewarded. This nomination was supported by User:Titodutta and User:MelanieN.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

{{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Recipient user box}}

Thanks again for your efforts! . Buster Seven Talk 12:24, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]