User talk:Sriram Vikram

revert to cleaner version BLP, NPOV NOT RS etc

Hello don't put bad words on my talkpage understand. and you are not adhering to NPOV (HG)) fully revert it is not worth the effort to try and remove all of the crap to see if any of the content is potentially salvagable

See this, WP:IMDB NPOV (HG))

Thank you. Best in the world 56 (talk) 16:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

This what is your problem man? why do you keep undoing my edits? i see a mistake thatswhy i undo it. It's ok. Thank you. Best in the world 56 (talk) 16:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

[1] where is source? Best in the world 56 (talk) 16:49, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

File:Chiyaan Vikram.png listed for deletion

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Polladhavan

Nice DVD cover! :) → Vijay ^[talk] 19:32, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

@Vijay Thanks Dude

:)

Kaakha Kaakha Movie

Do you have any good posters for this movie? -- L o g X 21:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

@ L o g X Is there a problem with the existing image in that article? Actually, there was another image [2] linked to the article. It was a screenshot from a DVD. The reason I uploaded a DVD cover was bcoz the image [3] had just the movie title and was of landscape orientation. — Sriram Vikram (talk) 14:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem with that image! Just asked whether you have any other poster or not! :-) -- L o g X 14:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

There are a lot of DVD covers available. But posters not much. Its difficult to find one online. −− Sriram Vikram (talk) 14:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Cool! I thought you might have some stuffs rather than finding online! -- L o g X 14:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm new to the Wikicommunity. Been here only since May 2013. So, for my edits and contributions, I find the source online. Sriram Vikram (talk) 14:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Cool!! :-) -- L o g X 14:56, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thalaivaa

Are u editing it? Because I found some useful info to expand the box office section from here and here ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 14:49, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

@Kailash29792 (talk)

No. I'm not editing the article. Was just adding album covers to Tamil movies. And corrected a mistake that I found. (Chronology)

-- Sriram Vikram (talk) 14:53, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Re:Vadacurry

It's unneccessary. Whether Srikanth N.B or N.B Srikanth, it's not going to make a difference. If at all, redirect the links to the original page rather than piping them. And adding title and publisher to references is no big deal. I just sometimes forget to do it, but all sources I add are notable only, so no problem with that. Veera Dheera Sooran (talk) 12:23, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

@Veera Dheera Sooran (talk)

I have actually added the relevant info for all the citations, even the ones you have provided. Thats why said so. Anyway, nothing personal. Coz I spend quite some time in wiki fixing these links with more info.

Thank You -- Sriram Vikram (talk) 12:29, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Actually we both have been working on creating this article at the same time. Do check when the poster was uploaded. As I was trying to find more citations, I found you have already posted the article. :)

Oh ok, what a coincidence. Thank you for completing the citations. I just thought the piping was unnecessary. Otherwise I have no problems with it, it's good. :-) Veera Dheera Sooran (talk) 12:34, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

@Veera Dheera Sooran (talk) You are welcome. -- Sriram Vikram (talk) 12:36, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

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Blast from the past

Thank u for showing appreciation over my work in Karnan, which is a GA. To tell u a fact, I have been vastly developing old Tamil films like Puthiya Paravai, Parasakthi (1952 film) and Chandralekha (1948 film) largely through Blast from the Past by Randor Guy only. However, Karnan was never published by him. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:24, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Are any of these Blast from the Past articles of interest to you in developing on Wiki? Pls tell me if yes:

• Chandralekha - Already in development, anyone welcome to improve it to GA standard
• Thyagabhoomi
• Vaazhkai - Already well developed by other users, but I'd like to make it better
• Sathi Leelavathi (1936 film) - MGR's debut film
• Jayakodi
• Chintamani
• Haridas (1944 film)
• Vanjikottai Valiban - Once I see the film, I'll work on it
• Iru Sahodarargal
• Marmayogi
• Parasakthi - Already a GA, but can become a featured article ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 09:58, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Then I'll create them with basic content, and let others develop them. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:16, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Blast from the Past (column)

As the long Blast from the Past table could not stay on Randor Guy article, it now has a separate article. Feel free to edit it. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:57, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Kailash29792 Sure thing pal. -- Sriram Vikram (talk) 13:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Then please go ahead. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:05, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Instead of keeping all languages in the same article, separate ones can do. Eg: Randor Guy's articles can be listed in Blast from the Past (Tamil cinema), and the others can be listed under Blast from the Past (Telugu cinema), Blast from the Past (Malayalam cinema) etc. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Kailash29792! Hey! I got a request for you. When you make edits to the Blast from the past column, please arrange it in alphabetical order. Thanks. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 05:29, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Ya sure. Also, u can create ur own signature in Preferences, where u can keep the text colour as red. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 05:44, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

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After you finish rewriting, it is best to wait for an admin to review the article, and he will remove the tag if it means green signal. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:45, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

I have already uploaded a poster to Nenjil Or Aalayam. As for Iru Sahodaragal, yes upload the image u showed me. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:26, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Iru Sahodaragal

Since the image came in 1936, you can add {{PD-India}} to the bottom of the file page. If it is still hard to understand, copy the syntax of this file and change the names. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:09, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Well then, go ahead ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 08:18, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

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Iravum Pagalum 2

If there is a second film named Iravum Pagalum, please provide me with evidence. Till then, I'll change the page to disambiguation. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:21, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

 Done, moved Jaishankar's film back to original title. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:27, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Bcos as of now there is only one film with the title Iravum Pagalum, there is no need for a disambiguation page. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 14:12, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

To be precise, I am unable to tag the page for deletion (whether it is problem with my internet or Wiki's server is not clear). But if u receive any update on Iravum Pagalam 2, pls create an article for it. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 14:19, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Please feel free to do so. But if the disambig. page has to stay, then Iravum Pagalum (2013 film) should be renamed to '... (2014 film)' as I dont think it is releasing any time soon. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 14:41, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Thirupathi Brothers

hello this Sadiqkhan79 . I want to update my company Thirupathi Brothers film media pvt ltd . Movie Poster can you able to help to update. sadiqkhandirector@gmail.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadiqkhan79 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Sorry! I can't get you. Can you be more clear about what kind of help that you need? I presume that you want me to update some information and you have WP:COI -- Sriram ^{speak up} 05:14, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Are you referring to the file File:Ivan veramathiri.jpg? If so, the problem is this: The licensing section says that you are the copyright holder of the poster and that you grant license to copy, distribute or modify the file. But you have uploaded the file as a non-free file. If you are really the copyright holder, upload the image to commons. [4] If you are not the copyright owner, then upload it in wikipedia with the proper license 'non-free rationale'. Hope that helps. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 05:40, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

hello Sriram, this is sadiq khan . iwan to update movie anjaan poster on Anjaan wikipedia. can u help me and update the photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadiqkhan79 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Has been taken care of. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 13:09, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Reply

I upload images in large size because I want them to be reduced to a good size by someone else. In fact, it is me who tags most of the images I upload with the reduce tags. As for the Blast from the Past (column) issues, I have to first break the table into separate categories (according to decade), which is hard as u had arranged everything at random. Neverthless, I'll do the best I can. As for the GA review of Gemini 2002, hope its going well. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 14:29, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

A simple memorial to a legendary thespian

The editor of this article in The Hindu is named "Sriram V"; is that you by any chance? BTW, it gives good trivia about Sivaji's Parasakthi 1952, but I am unable to find what to add from it. Maybe u can help. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 04:53, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take care of those. But I don't know whether to add National Pictures under the "studio" section or "distributed by" section. In fact, I am not able to understand who is the true studio of Parasakthi - National or AVM? After reading this, u can tell me the answer. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 05:17, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Are you able to rewrite this paragraph? If yes, pls paste the rewritten version here, and not on my talkpage. The para is as follows:

October 1 this year marks the 85 birthday of acting legend Sivaji Ganesan. There are at least three memorials to him in the city, of which my personal favourite stands inside AVM Studios. I was able to see it a couple of years ago, thanks to a heritage tour organised by actor Mohan V. Raman. A simple block of elegantly-fashioned black granite, it stands on the spot where Sivaji first faced the camera for his debut film – Parasakthi. The granite slab has a brass medallion on top that bears a close-up of Sivaji uttering his famous opening word – “Success!”. Below it is a rectangular plaque that gives details of the memorial’s inauguration by Kamal Hassan in the presence of Sivaji’s sons Ramkumar and Prabhu, on October 17, 2002, the 50 anniversary of Parasakthi’s release. At the base are two plaques shaped like pages from an open book. These bear the names of all the other people involved in the making of the film – directors, writers, lyricists, music director, singers and technicians. This last was the idea of Mohan Raman, while the monument itself owes its existence to M. Saravanan and M. Balasubramanian, sons of A.V. Meyyappan, founder of AVM Studios. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 07:38, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

@Kailash29792! Sivaji Ganesan's 85th birth anniversary falls on October 1, 2013. There are 3 known memorials for him in Chennai. My personal favourite is the one inside the premises of AVM Studios. I got to see it a couple years ago, courtesy a heritage tour by Mohan V. Raman. The memorial stands at the very spot where Sivaji faced the camera first. An elegantly fashioned slab of black granite, the memorial has on its top a brass medallion that bears a close-up of Sivaji uttering his famous opening word – “Success!”. At its bottom is a rectangular plaque that reads "....(if you are able to read the words, fill this up with it)". The memorial was inaugurated on October 17, 2002 to mark the Golden Jubilee since the release of Parasakthi. At the base of the rectangular plaque are two other plaques resembling the pages of an open book, which bears the names of the technical crew and all those involved in the making of the film. ..... -- Sriram ^{speak up} 12:05, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Because I have to add info from this source to the article Parasakthi, and it should not violate WP:COPYVIO. I hope u can rewrite better and add the info. BTW, sorry if u didnt understand what I earlier meant. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 12:23, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

@Kailash29792! Its in direct speech. Covert it to indirect speech. And just leave out the portions about the narrator. Just add an image of the plague if possible and explain it. When it was inaugurated; to mark what occasion; who inaugurated etc. Then, just explain the features of the memorial. That should do it. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 12:33, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

We don't even have to mention anything about his 85th birthday which is insignificant in this context. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 12:34, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

To commemorate 50 years since the release of Parasakthi, a memorial was installed in AVM Studios. The memorial stands at the very place where Sivaji first faced the camera. An elegantly fashioned slab of black granite, the memorial has on its top a brass medallion that bears a close-up of Sivaji uttering his famous opening word – “Success!”. At its bottom is a rectangular plaque that reads "....(if you are able to read the words, fill this up with it)". At the base of the rectangular plaque are two other plaques resembling the pages of an open book and bears the names of the technical crew and all those involved in the making of the film. The memorial was inaugurated on October 17, 2002 by Kamal Hassan in the presence of Sivaji’s sons Ramkumar and Prabhu. How about this? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 12:42, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

The best. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 15:09, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Suggestions

Would you like to create your userpage, where u can store ur barnstars and achievements safely? Also, since u seem to continue editing Gemini even after its successful GA review, would u like to take it to featured article status? ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 14:26, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

@Kailash29792 As I had said already, when I started editing Gemini, I wasn't planning anything. I just stumbled upon the article and saw it was a stub. So started editing it. Then, when I have made enough improvements, I wanted to update the quality. but i wasn't sure if i can do it myself. So, I tried to request a reassessment. But the wikimedia servers where down back then and my addition to the list never got saved. So, I decided to request a GAN. Even then, you seemed doubtful about it passing the GA review. So, I found more sources and kept updating it even when the GA review was on process. Now that it have cleared GA, I was actually shocked to see there are only 5 Indian films that are featured articles and all of them where Hindi films. So, thought of atleast try to elevate it to FA status if possible.

And regarding the userpage: I don't mind creating it. But when I edit articles where so many people are working on, it becomes easier for me to keep track of my edits as it shows in red. That is the reason why I'm a bit hesitant about creating the userpage. But will think over it. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Kailash29792 May I know why you archive most of the references? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:45, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

The reason is simple: to save them from being wiped away without a trace. U may not remember that last year Deccan Chronicle deleted most of their online articles, resulting in millions of dead links, although the Wayback Machine keeps most of them safe. And since life is unpredictable, I do not want any major website to discard useful information. That is why I archive their links before they disappear. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 14:58, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Kailash29792! Oh! thats really bad. Can you tell me how to archive links? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 15:15, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Pls read WP:WAYBACK to know how to use the Wayback Machine. There is another web archiving page known as http://www.webcitation.org. Over there, at here, u just enter the URL u want to archive, followed by ur email ID. Right now, WebCitation cannot be connected due to server crash, but it will be better in some time. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 16:40, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Deepavali Wishes

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	Sorry for the late wishes, but Happy Deepavali! ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 13:46, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

@Kailash29792 Thanks man! Belated wishes to you too. Wish you a sparkling Diwali! -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:15, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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Vikram

To answer ur question abt Vikram's place of birth, this source says "both the national awardees share the same birthplace - Paramakudi in Ramanathapuram district", one of them refers to Vikram. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 04:07, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Kailash29792 Have updated the page. The refs you provided is already there in his article.(ref 4) Thanks. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:13, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Vikram

Hi, are you interested in taking this article to FAC in the near future? BTW, is Sriram Vikram related to Vikram Kennedy in anyway? —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 17:54, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. I am. But the thing is, I haven't worked on any biographies. So, I'm not sure if I would be able to pull it off. That is also the reason why I din't help you with K. Balachander.

No. Except that I'm his fan, I have no relation to Vikram. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 18:13, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

@Vensatry Being a pro, if you can guide me, I would be able to do justice to it. You can assign me tasks and if I ever mess up, you can cleanup. How about we start by expanding the article first by including dropped projects etc. I also came across a film called Vicky, my attempt to create an article for which failed. Check this -- Sriram ^{speak up} 12:08, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I can definitely guide you. We shall start working on the article once we're done with our current assignments. We should not give undue weight-age to dropped/shelved films as in most cases they are not notable, rather try to find out sources for his earlier films. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 05:30, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

VensatrySure dude. I don't want undue weight-age too. But, as an encyclopedia, I think they got to be mentioned there somewhere. We aren't creating a separate article for such films to worry about notability. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:07, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

And I want you to keep a track of my activities when we start working on the article. As an ardent fan of the subject, I could be at conflict of interest. I'll make sure not to cross that line but if I do, go ahead and cut me down to size. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:07, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Sure mate! —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 06:10, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Vensatry Hope your FA review of Tiruchirappalli is going good. Btw, do you have any idea how this works? Is is based on any time limit? Or the nomination have to get some fixed no. of supports to be elevated to FA? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:14, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Even am new to FAC. From my experience on working with FLC, they do have a time limit but there is nothing like the nomination has to get any fixed counts of "support votes". —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 06:26, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for that. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:32, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Here's an interesting piece of stuff for you! —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 06:47, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

@Vensatry Whew! That itself was almost encyclopaedic!! Thanks dude. Hope a lot of those could be used to elevate Vikram to FA. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:28, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Meera

I am currently trying to expand Meera (1945 film). I am having difficulty rewriting and extracting useful information from this site. Can u find anything useful and show me anything useful from the page here, in a rewritten form? Formality of tone does not matter, as the GOCE will take care of that. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 03:35, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Will do. But, its gonna take some time. Bear with me. :P -- Sriram ^{speak up} 03:50, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Like I said, tone does not matter as the GOCE will take care of that. Just the text should look different from its source to avoid copyvio. BTW, the two IndiaGlitz sources u added to Gemini (replacing Hindu and Rediff) look perfect to me. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 03:56, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Take a break from editing Gemini (I think u already are on a break), and can u help expanding the filming section of Meera with the above mentioned source? If not, can u find some useful trivia for Mullum Malarum from this Tamil article? -- Kailash29792 (talk) 16:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

@Kailash29792 Ha ha! No dude. I'm not on a break. I'm working on a new article slyly. Await a surprise. Btw, just did a few tweaks here and there in Gemini.(Actually to reach 400 edits in that article!!) And I have been following your conversations with Vensatry. If you need, I can translate that blog by tomorrow when I believe I'll be done with my current article. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:23, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Although Cannes Film Festival is not a GA or FA, u can still use it's output for developing CIFF. -- Kailash29792 (talk) 07:59, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

@Kailash29792 You found out! Who asked you to follow my activities. I wanted it to be a surprise. :'( -- Sriram ^{speak up} 08:17, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, I "accidentally stumbled" into ur conversation with Soham. Unlike in real life, I am not so solitary in Wiki. -- Kailash29792 (talk) 08:23, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

@Kailash29792 Fikar math kar. Mein toh sirf mazaa kar raha tha. :) -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:26, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Advance wishes

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	Merry Xmas and Happy New Year! I'll be travelling till the month-end, so see u in 2014! -- Kailash29792 (talk) 13:35, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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Classic bollywood film posters

Bollyjeff, Soham, Dwaipayanc, Kailash29792, Vensatry, etc. Found a source for classic posters here Regards. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:11, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

More posters at here and here -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:18, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Site might be good, but the pic resolutions are too small and the pictures cost. -- Kailash29792 (talk) 06:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

The images are large enough. Click on them to see the enlarged image. And, you don't need to buy them. Posted it for use in wikipedia. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:26, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Nice find. Soham 11:53, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure if these are usable. Their legal statement says that all the pictures are copyrighted. Perhaps someone can email them and ask if its okay to put them on wikipedia. BollyJeff | talk 13:41, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Okay. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 13:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hum Bhi Insaan Hain (1948 film)

The only place where I can see the title of the film written as "Hum Bhi Insan Hain" is the DVD cover you uploaded. Do you have any reliable sources for this name? Widr (talk) 15:54, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry dude. I don't. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:09, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Archive your conversations

Your talkpage is getting stuffed, that can make it difficult for others as well as urself to navigate. I suggest u please start erasing conversations that do not appear necessary any longer. If not, u can archive them all (see WP:ARCHIVE for help). BTW, I think u remember u told me "Thina Thanthi [of Mullum Malarum] review is also avl in ref 34 in the article", but I cannot find "தந்தி" in ref 34, which is this ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 15:00, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I read that. But since it does not mention the name of Mullum Malarum's dubbed version or it's release date, I avoided adding it. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:19, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, mentioning that a film was dubbed or remade without mentioning the name of the dubbed or remake is not allowed on Wiki. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:35, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Enter the Baashha

Over with Mullum Malarum, now just it needs a GA reviewer. Now I am on to improving Baashha. I got some info from My Days With Baasha, and I have pasted it in my sandbox bcos I am unable to trim down what I have copied from a book. If u can trim it down, pls do so. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:48, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I suggest you start working with independent sources. In my opinion, the contents of the book is more of an interview and can be added only as quotes to a maximum of 3. We can't use them completely. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 02:10, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Kalidas

Even as Mullum Malarum awaits its GA review, I am working on improving the simpler Kalidas. U interested in developing it? Kailash29792 (talk) 08:30, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm currently preparing for a competitive exam to be held in mid-Feb. So, I'll be taking a break until then with my edits being irregular. So, you carry on. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 02:45, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Well then, all the best. And do pls put a {{wikibreak}} tag on ur talkpage so that others don't bother u either. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:08, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes after Mullum Malarum, I had planned to work on making Kalidas a GA, which I still plan on. U interested in helping? If not, at least finding more sources abt it and giving me? I need at least six sources. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:15, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Kailash29792 Sorry for the delay. I can find you sources relating to Kalidas. But, being an outsider to the article in question, I would not be able to do justice. Since you are one involved in developing the article, you would be the best judge to which sources are worthy and which aren't. The archives of The Hindu are a rich source for such needs. When in need, you can just search here and I'm sure you won't be disappointed by the results it throw up. You may need to use keywords in multiple permutations and combinations for more sources relating to the topic. Here is one for you. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:53, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

And a few Tamil sources can be found here and here Narrow down to reliable sources and if you need them translated, feel free to approach me. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 15:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

But remember, although eng-wiki doesn't forbid the use of other lang sources, for the purpose of verifiability, I suggest using it as minimal as possible. Only when the info avl through eng sources aren't good enough to elevate the article to GA (at the least). -- Sriram ^{speak up} 15:49, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Btw, do you think you can find a poster of Gemini. If you can, I will be grateful to you! -- Sriram ^{speak up} 15:56, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Thuppakki accolades

If u feel u can update the section, please do so. I don't think I'll be editing for some time. Kailash29792 (talk) 21:49, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

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Bhaktha Prahladha's release year

Hi, I would like it if you took part in this discussion. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:23, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry man. Seems the discussion has been closed and archived. I was a little busy with my real life. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 02:40, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Never mind, I have reopened the discussion over here. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:13, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792:Hey dude! S. Muthiah, a well known historian who author the column 'Madras Musings' in The Hindu, claims it to be 1931 in an article published in December 2013!! -- Sriram ^{speak up} 11:30, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Check this out. Seems to suggest 1931. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 22:26, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry! The books seems to have been released coinciding with the 50 years of Indian cinema which was way back in 1981. Since, the finding of Rentala Jayadeva has been published rather recently, I don't think the referring the book is worthy here. Ignore it.-- Sriram ^{speak up} 12:28, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

And I don't think Muthiah was aware of Rentala Jayadeva's powerful and conclusive research. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:13, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Well, Muthiah is a historian too. So, I'm not sure whom I should believe. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 13:18, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Clarification

Hi, can you find out if Madras Film Institute and M.G.R. Government Film and Television Training Institute are one and the same? —Vensatry _(Ping) 10:39, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

@Vensatry:Looks like they are. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 22:49, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I came across one more film school called Institute of Film Technology, Madras. While Rajinikanth's biography states that the Madras film institute was formed in 1973, some technicians like Ashok Kumar is said to have studied at the Institute of Film Technology, Madras. So there was a film school established prior to 1973 in Madras? You being a Chennaite, could have some idea about them. —Vensatry _(Ping) 04:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Any ideas? —Vensatry _(Ping) 05:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

When searching in Google, I found this site which says "Madras Film Institute (or Officially "Adyar Film Insititute") is one of the Premier Film Institues of India. It was later renamed to MGR Government Film Institute in the 80s in honor of late MG Ramachandran." Also, the name "Madras Film Institute" redirects (at this moment) to MGR Govt Film and Television Training Insitute, making it more convincing. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:37, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Well Kailash, the redirect was made by none other than Vensatry himself. [Don't blindly believe everything in wikipedia. They are subject to change!!] Yet, it seems to be true. I have asked a friend of mine (working in film industry) for confirmation. He might know though not so sure if he does. Will let you guys know when he replies. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 10:55, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

@Vensatry:Page 4 of this article clearly says Madras Film Institute was established in 1945. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 11:34, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Then it should be the oldest film school in India, right? —Vensatry _(Ping) 04:55, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

The article says South India. Not sure coz if so in whole of India, wouldn't they have mentioned it? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 04:59, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Is there any other govt. run film school in Chennai apart from this one? —Vensatry _(Ping) 06:12, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

As far as I know, No. There are a few private institutes one by Rajiv Menon, one by Balu Mahendra and one named after LV Prasad. Why? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:20, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Nope, I'm still wondering whether there are two govt. film schools. —Vensatry _(Ping) 06:39, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Kadhalikka Neramillai

Hi, this and this have some useful info that you can add to Kadhalikka Neramillai. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:27, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. But the facts provided are inconsistent with those in the article.

1. While Gopu had said that there were no exhibitors initially, the book says the distributors were impressed and eagerly bought the rights.

2. And The Hindu says the film was shot in Aaliyar Dam bungalow whereas the book claims Ooty.

I'm starting to doubt the credibility of this book. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:14, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Well, why not try mailing the author at dhananjayang@gmail.com? He responds quickly. U can question the credibility of certain contents. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:38, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Should I contact him about the credibility of his book? I suppose not coz he could get offended. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:45, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Do not ask him about the credibility and authenticity of the whole book. You can just ask him whether the content he added abt the film is well researched and he is sure that it is correct, by showing him your sources. If u r still confused, u may contact Film News Anandan (anandanfilmnews@gmail.com). Kailash29792 (talk) 07:27, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay. will do. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 07:36, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Excellent work on the article. A massive expansion! Would you be willing to take this to DYK now or once it passes GAN? —Vensatry _(Ping) 17:39, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks man. If the expansion is good enough to qualify for DYK, we can nominate now else can wait for GA. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 18:13, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792:Hey! Check this. The location is Aaliyar Dam. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 23:33, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

We cannot nominate it now, as the prose was more than 6k chars prior to your expansion. So let's wait until GAN. —Vensatry _(Ping) 03:49, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Thought so. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 04:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Sriram, I have listed KNI at the GOCE. As for contacting those two film historians, how'd it go? Kailash29792 (talk) 05:50, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

I was thinking, tagging an article with 'copy-edit' was the same as requesting at GOCE. Is it not so? And, I have mailed to Dhananjayan. Will let you know if and when he replies. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 05:58, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Removed the tag. You can expect a copy-edit in six weeks time. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:11, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

That long huh? Maybe I should learn copy editing. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 06:17, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, User:Baffle gab1978 is currently editing KNI. Hope it has gone well so far. But I have one question: In the lead you wrote "contemporary", which has now been replaced with "contemporaneous" by him. What did you want to mean by "contemporary"? There are three definitions of it on Wiktionary:

• "From the same time period, coexistent in time."
• "Modern, of the present age."
• "Relatively recent" - which did you mean? Kailash29792 (talk) 16:20, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: I meant the present age film personalities. The film came 50 years ago. People like Crazy Mohan and YGM weren't in films then!! -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:31, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

KNI

@Kailash29792:Hey! Mr. Dhananjayan just replied a couple hours back. He claims that the film was also shot at Aaliyar Dam but mostly filmed at Ooty. And that the songs were a big hit even before the film released and hence did attract distributors. Lets say he is right, but does it qualify as RS? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 13:09, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes. And I hope u did ask him whether he verified the data u asked him abt. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

He said the info in 'The Hindu' report was of the authors'. And that the book was thoroughly researched. But I still doubt how it can be an RS. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:57, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I see that the article is at GAN. Good luck with the nom! —Vensatry _(Ping) 06:59, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I would appreciate if you can take a look and make any changes necessary to make it GA worthy. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 07:03, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Looks good to me as I said earlier. If needed, I'll make some edits after the review begins! —Vensatry _(Ping) 07:37, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Kailash has made a few comments in the Talk page. I have made changes about those I were convinced about. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 07:38, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I am a bit confused about the casting of Sachu. While your statement read that she accepted the film with "one of the reasons being the first Tamil film to be made in colour", the source reads: "But the way director Sridhar narrated the story featuring three couples, I accepted it. Moreover, it was a colour film." So I have edited it to: she accepted the film due to the way Sridhar "narrated the story featuring three couples". Is it fair? Kailash29792 (talk) 17:06, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah! I already thanked that edit. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:08, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

@Vensatry:@Kailash29792: Hey guys! Check this out. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:27, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but I think I will be occupied this weekend. Nonetheless, if the event is covered by the media (Indian media rarely covers every single detail of film-related events), we can add it here. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh...okay. Btw, since the event is sponsored by The Hindu, we can expect a decent article regarding the proceeding of the event. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:36, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

This article seems to cover the entire event. Good luck using it as a source. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:25, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Plot summary

This explains that "Plot summaries for feature films should be between 400 and 700 words. The summary should not exceed the range unless the film's structure is unconventional, such as Pulp Fiction's non-linear storyline, or unless the plot is too complicated to summarize in this range." Also, Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia seeking to maintain maximum formality, that is why slang terms are usually forbidden, until they are not told from Wikipedia's voice (eg: Gemini, as described by the director Saran, is a "wannabe gangster" is more advisable than Gemini is a wannabe gangster). Kailash29792 (talk) 10:18, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Two suggestions

During one of your recent conversations with Vensatry, I remember you asked about uploading an alternate image of Aaliyar Dam. Whatever happened of that plan? Also, I stumbled upon this article which you could translate portions of to me. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:43, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

I had found an image which showed the bungalow itself where the film was shot (Aaliyar Dam Guest House). I thought it would be better to have that image instead of the existing one which doesn't help in improving the understanding of the reader as it just shows the dam as seen from the bungalow's balcony. But, while the existing image was snapped and uploaded by an user [Pandbar] and therefore is in commons, the image I had found could be copyrighted. That is the reason I wanna know if I could replace it. But, since I felt that the contribs by Vensatry have dropped in the past couple weeks or so when compared to his normal edit frequency, I thought he might be busy with something else. So I decided not to trouble him and removed my message in his talk page. And, as I expected, he doesn't seemed to have noticed it.

As for the translation, I'll do it in a day or two. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 11:57, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Sriram, I did make a notice of the image just now. Apologies for not checking my talk history. The image's copyright status is unknown. If you're sure that it originally belongs to the site, you can try requesting them to release the image under a free license. BTW, KNI is scheduled for a Sunday telecast in Sun TV next week. Don't miss it :) —Vensatry _(Ping) 15:31, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

There is no need to apologize. I removed it on purpose and if someone should be blamed, it should be me. Btw, thanks for the schedule. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:16, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

@Vensatry:@Kailash29792: Btw, just wanna know what you guys feel about the new typeface. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:18, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

And, I have archived some of my conversations but have tried something different! Hoped you guys might have noticed that. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:20, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

What's that? scratching head in confusion. —Vensatry _(Ping) 07:33, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Lol! Really? That bad huh? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 07:36, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Yup! —Vensatry _(Ping) 07:43, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, it works for me. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 07:44, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Better than normal archiving. Improves readability. If I want something, I know where to find it coz they are sorted by topic. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 07:48, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm, I find "archiving by date" to be a good method. —Vensatry _(Ping) 15:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Karma

Sriram and Kailash29792, can anyone of you archive the main page tomorrow (21:30 IST) when this film appears on the main page as I'll be on travel. —Vensatry _(Ping) 12:46, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Sure man. Btw, using webarchive, the pages can be archived whenever necessary as it takes multiple screenshots of the pages through the day. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:55, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

And, Happy Journey! -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:58, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I have done it myself as there was a delay in the DYK queue. And yes, webarchive is a good one! —Vensatry _(Ping) 02:40, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Fortune favours the brave! Seems like it waited for you!! -- Sriram ^{speak up} 02:43, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Ha ha! Karma and my prev nom (Jaya's picture) are the only DYKs (out of my 70-odd) to get a main page appearance with an image. —Vensatry _(Ping) 02:50, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Well then, Kudos to you! -- Sriram ^{speak up} 02:54, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. In the past, I've made numerous image requests for many "interesting" DYKs; none of those were accepted. However, in a single week I got two DYKs on the main page with an image. I think I should be writing articles like Karma to attract the DYK delegates. —Vensatry _(Ping) 07:27, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Maybe, they want them to be titillating! Just a thought. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 07:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Chitralaya Gopu image

Hi, I saw the image of Gopu. You can upload it to Wikimedia Commons after seeking permission from N. Sridharan (the photographer). If you are still confused, read the instructions there. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:20, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, did you find him yet? I know of Mohan Raman, who I think also works for The Hindu. By contacting him at mohanraman@gmail.com, I think you can trace the photographer. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:20, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Oh! Okay. I was thinking of asking you how. Thanks. Btw, is there a problem with the existing license that it cannot be used? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 13:27, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

If he is deceased, then the licence can be altered, to look like the licence of this image. Kailash29792 (talk) 13:49, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah. Actually I copy-pasted the license from File:AVMeiyappa.jpg. I wanna know if the same license doesn't apply for living persons. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 13:52, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, for photographs of living people, they should contain the author's permission and should be in Commons instead of Wikipedia. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for enlightening me! -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:33, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Idhuvum Kadandhu Pogum

Hi, next time, please put a right sub-catetgory. I've replaced Category:Direct-to-video films and Category:2014 films with Category:2014 direct-to-video films.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Anniyan

Brilliant work! Editor 2050 (talk) 13:11, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Brilliant work indeed Sriram. So is this your next GA? If yes, I have one suggestion: how about giving the soundtrack of Anniyan a separate article? Kailash29792 (talk) 13:31, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Btw, the soundtrack can stay. Its not even as long as the soundtrack of MeA which doesn't have a separate article. With the dubbed tracklists collapsed, I don't think its too long to command a separate article. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 04:05, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

At first I felt length was a reason that the soundtrack could have a separate article, but never mind. Later, I realised that because soundtrack covers are not acceptable on film articles (from this policy), but allowed on soundtrack articles, a separate article for the soundtrack of Anniyan could do. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:38, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Does that policy apply only to non-bollywood film articles? Why does Sholay and Mughal-E-Azam have an album cover but we Kollywood should resolve to cheap tricks like creating a separate article for them to allow using a cover art? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 05:20, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

There are two cases where a soundtrack image is acceptable in a film article: If it is not too identical to the poster in the infobox, and the soundtrack section must describe the image and it's connection to the plot. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:00, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Forgive me for the delay. Academic commitments kept me busy for more than a month. Btw, let the soundtrack section stay. When the article is in GAN, is the reviewer raises a issue regarding the image, then we can consider creating a separate article. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:29, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey! Can you lend a little help with this article? I'm not comfortable with the 'Box office' section which I had intended to add for a long time now. Can you help me with it? I will provide you with all available sources. You can work on it in your sandbox and add to the article when done. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I will add, provided you give me the promised sources. In fact, I'm not so good at finding box office reports via Google. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:43, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792:Thanks man. I have added the sources as a test edit and undid them. You can use the older revision to work on them. Just add as much info as you can. They can be consolidated and made more concise if need be. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:00, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

I have made another test edit, just in case you were wondering why a few references were repeated. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792:Hey! Btw, I have reworked the 'Critical reception' section a little differently, taking inspiration from American Beauty wherein the comments from a reviewer isn't cohesive but split according to content. Will that be better? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 10:28, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that looks good. But why does each review have a separate paragraph? I prefer that every three reviews share one paragraph. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:04, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

That is because, what you see in the article right now was my previous work. As I wasn't satisfied with it, I reworked it in my PC's notepad and haven't made that edit to wiki yet. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 15:29, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Just made the reworked edit. Check out. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 15:46, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Good one. I have removed ApunKaChoice and Thiraipadam as they are not reliable. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:26, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Do you think the 'Critical reception' section is large enough to require a separate section, as seen in American Beauty? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:31, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

That would look good, provided it is impossible to further trim the section. But in American Beauty's "Release" section, there are sub sections named "Publicity", "Theatrical run" and "Home media". So how about adding a new sub-section to the "release" section of Anniyan after "Critical reception" becomes a level two section? The now Kailash29792 (talk) 17:11, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay. We will complete the article first and get it copy-edited. Then we can ask for suggestions from the experienced lot (like Blofeld) and decide which works the best. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:57, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Bro, I got the box office value. The box office gross information for Gemini, also had Anniyan's box office gross value. :D Ssven2 (talk) 13:58, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Is nowrunning.com a RS, bro? Ssven2 (talk) 08:08, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea, bro. While most sources that are published physically like newspapers and magazines are accepted as RS, with regards to web sources I don't know which are the ones that are RS and which aren't. Thats why I added everything; those that aren't will be pointed out during review and can be removed as and when necessary. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 09:13, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

BTW, bro, the references from The Hindu are themselves archives, so u don't need to archive them. The ones whose URL end with ".ece" are not archived and the ones with the URL ".htm" or ".html" are archived. Check this link Ssven2 (talk) 12:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Just the plot was trimmed by both me and Kailash. Nothing wrong with your writing. You made the 1st FA on a Tamil film, dude. Hats off for that. If there is anything I can do to help with Anniyan, do let me know. BTW, shall I help u archive d references for the article? :) Ssven2 (talk)

1. I suggest you keep conversations at one place as much as possible for reasons of continuity. Which mean, it is advisable that you reply in the same talk page where the discussions begin. Its a suggestion: take it or leave it.

2. I have to absolve Kailash because he has made only a few minor edits.

3. And, I would not have questioned you, if you have just trimmed the plot or copy edited them. But, you have rewrote most of it. Everyone has a style of writing. If one individual works on an article, the prose will be more consistent. There have been occasions when Kailash has asked me for help with some Tamil translations and sometimes with paraphrasing for articles he was working on. And, I make it a point that I don't edit the article myself as much as possible but leave suggestions at talk pages (like you might find at Chandralekhas talk page). I suggest you consider that in the future.

4. When I first wrote the plot, it was close to 1000 words. I trimmed it down, removing some fluff. And, I found that I could move contents relating to Garuda Purana to the inspiration section where it would fit more appropriately, while also trimming the plot. But, I see that you have added them back. I am gonna rework the plot, combining both our versions hoping it will be better. Hope you don't mind.

5. As I already said, I would like if you could help with the 'Box office' section. I'm not comfortable with statistics. There are a number of useful references in this revision. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 13:11, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, the reference for the box office section was the same one as in Gemini, so I added it. Meanwhile, here is a link on KNI from The Hindu that might interest you. It was screened at a film festival Ssven2 (talk)

Nomination for deletion of Template:K. Balachander sidebar

Template:K. Balachander sidebar has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Vieque (talk • ctb) 19:41, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Idhuvum Kadandhu Pogum

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

archive url -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Thanks man! -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:09, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	For your first FA!! —Vensatry (ping) 18:52, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

The film doesn't stand anywhere near "landmark films" in Tamil cinema. I still remember watching the trailer of the film in Sun TV (I was in grade 8) and enjoyed it though. Don't stop here, please try to improve articles like Sethu, Pithamagan and Anniyan. They are much more deserving than this one! —Vensatry _(ping) 16:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Anniyan is our next, and Sriram has promised to make me a co-nominator of its FAC. Mani Ratnam's Raavanan (also starring Vikram), though it ain't so close to these "landmark films" in Tamil cinema, also appears to have great potential. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:57, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I started work on Raavanan a long time ago, but was stumped by the mind-boggling amount of data that needs processing. So, have kept it on hold until I gain enough experience and language skills. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 16:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Around the time I was working on the article, I happened to discuss the 'Timeline' approach that was introduced by Facebook. That thing kept playing in my mind and played some tricks too! I ended up arranging facts chronologically in the 'Production' section and realised much to my disappointment that I had messed it up completely. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

There was an article in 'The Telegraph (Calcutta)' that vividly explained the shoot as it took place in Calcutta. And, my admiration for Vikram turned into a COI, impeding my ability to omit unnecessary trivia. And, that's when I decided to give it a break and continue later, when I'm more neutral. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:05, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

@Vensatry: While I do admit that Gemini isn't a landmark film, a FA doesn't necessarily need to be path-breaking or a timeless-classic. I believe that it is a prejudice and I even expected that the FAC would attract very few reviewers. If not for Kailash, it would been true. If a film attracted wide attention from the media and has a lot to write about, that should suffice. Btw, Gemini holds a special significance for me. Back then, I have seen some of Vikram's lesser known films on TV. But, after the success of Sethu, I haven't seen any of his subsequent films including Sethu. Gemini was the first Vikram film I saw post=Sethu. And, I have been his fan since then. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:12, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Btw, haven't you checked out Anniyan yet? I thought you would have, as I have improved the article by a good extent, I guess. Still, work needs to be done in 'Critical response' and 'Box office' sections. In the former, I have tried two different ways of presenting the reviews. Pls. check the history. And, I'm not so good at processing statistical data (guess I'm dyslexic like Ishaan Nandkishore Awasthi!!); So, I have left it to Kailash29792. You can join too if interested. Your massive experience is always welcome. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:18, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

"a FA doesn't necessarily need to be path-breaking or a timeless-classic". Did I ever say that? I was trying to say that we need to help promote high-quality Tamil films to FAs. Gemini was a runaway hit mainly because of "O podu", else it would've ended up as an ordinary commercial film. I guess you are a hard-core admirer of commercial cinema :). Have you seen Meera, which released much before Vikram came into limelight? Except for the last 15-20 minutes (I really loved the way in which the fight was choreographed between Sarathkumar and Vikram in the climax) and "Oh Butterfly" song we cannot watch the film. BTW, how can you miss Dhill. It was this film that gave "Chiyan" a much needed breakthrough and an action hero mould. I must have watched it for at least 10-15 times. Kailash29792, as for Raavanan, do you even call that a film. Mani doesn't matter much these days. —Vensatry _(ping) 17:40, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

No, you did not explicitly say so. But, your comment that there are more deserving films that needed improvement seemed to indirectly suggest so. Ignore it if you did not mean it that way. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Btw, I was talking about the past. I have seen it umpteen times now. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 17:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

@Vensatry: Regarding your article Rakkamma Kaiya Thattu: I have also been contemplating creating articles for hit singles on the lines of Kolaveri, in competition for such articles from bollywood. What say? O Podu, Nakka Mukka, Appadi Podu etc. have scope. See this -- Sriram ^{speak up} 18:07, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

You can create them, provided they meet WP:NSONG. —Vensatry _(ping) 18:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Vikram filmography

You never ask a question by reverting. You ask a question on a talk page and do not revert.

1. YOU NEVER add a link to user space. NEVER.
2. Gyllenhaal's commercial/videos were all notable (ie, an article) when it became an FL.
3. Mukerji's doesn't have any commercials and one video. It wasn't raised at the FLC and I don't know why. It should have.
4. We don't go around listing every fricking commercial a person has been in. Only if the commercial or music videos were notable. Studio or major independent films are assumed to be notable. Bgwhite (talk) 06:08, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Those commercials and music videos aren't notable enough to deserve a separate article, but they were notable enough to be discussed in independent, third-party sources. I have referenced every single of them. Notability doesn't necessarily mean they should an article by themselves. With that argument, an actor's film which doesn't have an article in wiki, should not be mentioned in his filmography. Of the three commercials, two organisations have an article in wiki. If Gyllenhaal's commercial is notable, why not this? If you want more referencing, I can provide them too. I am adding that content back. If you got a problem with that, go ahead and make a request at WP:RFC. Wikipedia is a work in progress. And, watch your tone next time. You aren't my boss; so, stop giving me orders. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 11:09, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Exactly my point, they aren't "notable enough to deserve a separate article" so why even mention them here. Alot of people and things are not notable, but have links that mention them. All long films made by studios or major independents are assumed notable. There is no such rule for commercials or music videos. Gyllenhaal's commercial was notable enough to have an article.

You have now gone into defensive mode with your refusal to discuss and laying accusations.... "you aren't my boss" "watch your tone" "stop giving orders". Just because one can site Wikipedia is a work in progress doesn't mean we don't follow rules. Just because you don't like a rule or another person's argument, doesn't mead we resort to name calling.

As you have now resulted to name calling, this discussion is now over. WP:RFC is not the place for dispute resolutions, WP:DR is. As you have broken off discussions, started name calling and reverted, the onus is now on you. Any more reverts by you will be met with a block. The only way to change this situation will be thru WP:DR. Bgwhite (talk) 20:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Bgwhite mentioned this conversation to me and is aware that things have got a bit heated. One thing is for sure, Bgwhite can't issue a block but if the edit warring continues then blocks could be issued by others. While RFC is an option, it is often like using a hammer to crack a nut. There are other forms of dispute resolution and some of the issues raised here look remarkably simple to deal with, like the linking to userspace which, as Bgwhite says, should never be done. I think that you perhaps both should walk away from the article and each other for a few hours: cooling off a bit might work wonders and it looks to me like you could both benefit from it.

I'm off to bed soon but if you're both willing then I'm happy to see what can be done when I get back from work tomorrow evening. We'd continue any discussion on the article talk page, obviously. - Sitush (talk) 21:53, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

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Chandralekha FAC

I have (finally!) opened the FAC for 1948's Chandralekha. Please feel free to post your comments on the FAC page. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:50, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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Let's make I an FA as well. :D Ssven2 (talk)

And by the way, the "Music" section of the film, Anniyan was quite long enough to have a separate article, so I created a separate article. But if u want to remove it and put it back, u can do so, bro :D. Cheers. Will do my best to help you take Anniyan to FA status.Ssven2 (talk)

Hey bro! Good to see you have been doing some good work here. But don't be offended when I say you are a little over enthusiastic.! I haven't had its audio launch yet and you wanna take it to FA!! Around the time the film releases, there would be a lot of activity and vandalisms particularly from IP editors. May I suggest you work on a lot of other deserving FA candidates for the time being and return to I a couple months after the film's release when the activity from IPs and vandals would have dropped considerably.

I would appreciate if you could pitch in for Anniyan. In my opinion, only the 'Critical reception' and 'Box office' needs work. When we are done with that, we can get the article polished by the GOCE and go for an FA nom. I had already asked Kailash for help, but he seems busy with his first attempt at FA. So, I would be glad if you could help. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 08:58, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Will do bo, :D Ssven2 (talk)

Kailash had already proposed to move the music section. The reason why I wanted it to stay was, when we request for a copyedit prior to making a FA or GA nom, the music section will also be copyedited. I was actually expecting that atleast one of the FA reviewers would raise an issue about the section deserving a separate article and I would move them as and when it happens. You moving the article isn't any wrong. But, I suggest before doing such things in the future you consult someone who is working on it 'coz they might have different plans. Thanks anyway and continue the good work. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 09:51, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

@Ssven2:If you intend to improve the 'Box office' section, you could find all the required references from a previous revision of the page which I have added as a test edit. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 09:58, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Saw the teaser, bro? :D Ssven2 (talk)

Yup! How could I miss it? -- Sriram ^{speak up} 14:17, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

So far, is I (wikipedia article) good? Ssven2 (talk) 07:58, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

No, it isn't. It needs some massive copyediting. Also, do not use sources in the middle of sentences until there are most than one subject and each ref. points only to that. In all the other cases, cite refs at the end of the sentences. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 09:16, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

This could be useful. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 09:20, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Better Now? :D Ssven2 (talk) 15:01, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, better. -- Sriram ^{speak up} 15:07, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

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I nominate Sriram Vikram as Editor of the Week for his strong content contributions to articles related to Tamil cinema. In particular, I want recognize his effort in pushing Gemini (2002 Tamil film) from an article with mostly plot to a currently Featured Article. I conducted the the GA review for Gemini upon Sriram's request at the Teahouse last year. Sriram's improvements to the article were impressive the whole way through our lengthy discussions, and I learned a lot from him about Indian-English conventions and vocabulary that I was completely unaware of before. Sriram has also earned DYKs for creating 11th Chennai International Film Festival and for Idhuvum Kadandhu Pogum. Sriram has been active on Wikipedia since May 2013, and he continues to be a fantastic content contributor. Kudos to Sriram, and now I must go see Gemini if only to see how cool Kalabhavan Mani is in those shades.

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Thanks again for your efforts! Go Phightins! 18:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)