User talk:Iryna Harpy

Hello

Hello , i think you should take a look at article Prek Cali,you should take a look at my work there,every time i add any (real) information (with reference of course) about his biography,they just delete it and say that i have wrote it bad,etc,etc. The unreal information's are hugely supported by administrators,which support Serbian-communist propaganda. They are disinformation with unreal facts,and unreal story's based in Albanian and Yugoslavian communist literature. In every Albanian article they try to dis-inform,everyone,claiming that Kelmendi tribe is serbian,and bla-bla-bla. Its really shameful,i just want to see and read the truth in Wikipedia,not propaganda of Albanians or Serbians! I do not support any propagandist side. All information's that i write are based on real facts and from official history books. AlbertBikaj (talk) 19:22, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, AlbertBikaj. Yes, I've been following this article since you created it and Antidiskriminator began changing it en masse, which is why I added a series of queries regarding translations of the sources being used (follow the edits to see what I was asking for) until Antidiskriminator pulled me up for tag-bombing.

I understand that there are subjects that simply don't have any English language coverage and am always concerned when it becomes evident that the entire area is highly controversial and prone to POV pushes. I think that, before the article is developed any further, it needs to be seriously examined by asking for genuinely neutral third opinions from editors not engaged with the development. It would be useful if you could ask an Albanian speaker whose English is better than yours to assist in translating your concerns about the sources being used. Obviously, it is in Wikipedia's interest to have a balanced article.

I'll start the ball rolling. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:06, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Here you got the best written article of Cali's biography,i know that my English is not perfect,i will try to translate from Albanian to English,i dont want to write false facts,im neutral,i never write false facts,i would be grateful if you restore the previous article which i showed to you,im ready to sent to you other informations from books. Here you got the proof,that communists wanted to airbrush Cali from History. Here you got another fact about Cali,the Antidiskriminator wrote that Cali wanted Autonomy republic,which is not true,Cali just wanted to protect Kelmendi from Montenegro,to keep the Kelmendi safe. I apologies,because i have made to much trouble about this topic. AlbertBikaj (talk) 23:21, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll have a read through these. It would certainly indicate that there are two sides to the story and reliable English language sources are preferable to unconfirmed non-English sources. The fact that Isa Blumi has good scholarly credentials certainly won't hurt your case.

As I'll be conferring with other administrators who will be looking at your attitude as well as content, could I suggest that you try to stay calm and avoid uncivil remarks about anyone you are arguing against. I know this is difficult for anyone when English is not their first language and they get overheated in a debate, but trying to keep to the facts and avoiding accusations will influence other parties reviewing the information in a positive way. I'll be in touch again soon. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

My English teacher corrected Cali's biography ,so please take a look on this file,all informations are based in real facts,and in official history of Albania. AlbertBikaj (talk) 08:40, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Albert. Okay, I'll take a look at it. Would you mind if I shared it with Fut.Perf. (the other editor who was concerned over the article and sources) to see what he thinks? --Iryna Harpy (talk) 09:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem :). — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlbertBikaj (talk • contribs) 10:01, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I have one urgent Wikipedia issue to attend to first (which may take a few days), but I'll attend to looking at the Prek Cali article immediately afterwards. You've been very patient and worked hard on it, so I'm sure you can stretch your patience for a few more days. There's no great urgency as Antidiskriminator has also ceased work on it, so at least we've managed to stop edit warring for the moment and there are other neutral parties watching the page. Cheers for now. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:21, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I can wait that's not a problem, in beginning i didnt know how work goes here in WIKI,and im sorry for causing troubles. To be honest i was angry a little bit,cause he is our National Hero (Officially recognized by Albanian state),i have read about him,thats the reason that i know good his biography and propaganda which has been made by Communism in Albania and Yugoslavia. If you dont mind,im going to send to you even some new "chapters" about protection of border (1913-1926). I wanna thank you once again for help. AlbertBikaj (talk) 06:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Please make the changes as soon you can. AlbertBikaj (talk) 16:55, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I just found a new proof about Prek Cali's biography, the book is written by Albanian scholar Gjekë Gjonaj Prekë Cali, "Piramidë e kufijve të Shqipërisë" (En: "Prek Cali,The pyramid of Albanian border"),this book is reviewed by famous Albanian Historian, Prof.Romeo Gurakuqi he is professor in "European University of Tirana". The corporation with communism theory's are based in Albanian communist Authors! This book denies communist theory about corporation with chetniks,and also dont forget he is officially known as Albanian Hero,and Pride of Albania. The biography which is written is not neutral at all,90% of literature which is used is by Serbian Communist authors! Also dont forget the Isa Blumi reference! I hope you will do a change because this article is Disinformation! Thank you! 213.133.24.115 (talk) 18:14, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Albert. Apologies for the delay. I haven't forgotten about the article and have the relevant information you've sent me bookmarked. Antidiskriminator is also waiting on the information being reviewed, so I need to compare notes on sources and work out how it should be balanced. Naturally, being English Wikipedia, the priority will be given to sources written in the English language.

I've been stuck in a dispute about usage of categories and, since then, the change in government in Ukraine, followed by the Crimean referendum, has resulted in an outbreak of warring on various Eastern Slavic articles. I'll get to Prek Cali as soon as I'm able, but please feel free to remind me should I be delayed for more than a couple of weeks again.

PS remember to log in as yourself. I know we all forget from time to time, but it prevents any accusations of sock puppetry and meat puppetry! Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:09, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Here you got something about Prek Cali,this book is written by Albanian priest Zef Pllumi. Also please change the origin of Kelmendi region,its ridicules to claim that Kelmendi tribe is serbia. AlbertBikaj (talk) 12:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Here is another strong proof, the book of Uran Butka,albanian scholar,historian and ocular witness, in his book "Ringjallje"(En: Reborn) in page 120 here you got the conversation of Prenk (Preng) Cali with Mehmet Shehu Albanian partisan (communist) (ALB: " Kur na çuen ke shtabi i batalionit, në Rrapsh të Hotit, Mehmet Shehu, u ndodh ballë për ballë me Prek Calin: - E, Prekë Cali, - i tha Mehmeti, - të pat ardhur dita ta mbyllesh historinë tënde me shkronja ari, po të bëheshe me ne! Pse bëre kështu? - Zotni, - iu përgjigj Prekë Cali, - faji bie mbi ju, se ju u batë aleat me anmikun shekullor tonin, me Serbin.”) (EN: When they took us to the battalion headquarters in Rapsha of Hoti, Mehmet Shehu saw Prek Cali andsaid to him  :"Your history would be written in gold,if you were in our side. Why did you do this ? ", Prek Cali replied : "The blame falls on you because you choose to ally with our sworn enemy,Serbia" AlbertBikaj (talk) 13:10, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

An Englishman in Albania: memoirs of a British officer 1929-1955 Here is another proof about Communist propaganda(Communist said that Cali is traitor) in book of Stan Sherer, Marjorie Senechal "Long life to your children!: a portrait of High Albania" ,or in another book,written by Albanian scholar Elmas Leci ,"Kush i Vrau? Perse i denuan" (EN "Who killed them? Why they were punished?") ,or Isa Blumi book or the book of Pejtër Pepa "The Criminal file of Albania's communist dictator" etc. Im going to do another research if its needed. But please change as fast you can the article. Because the books in serbian are based on communist books like this one "Heronjt e Heshtun" (Silent heros) written by Communist Albanian state which claims that Cali and other Albanian hero's were traitors... I think here you got a lot of strong proofs.

Okay, AlbertBikaj. Thanks for the extra references you've provided. I'm stuck in discussions and disputes over the Crimea accession on a number of articles and noticeboards at the moment. I WILL get to Prenk Cali as a first priority as soon as it quietens down a little. Please bear with me as the incident has created a lot of turmoil, POV and disruptive editing. Passions are running high and affecting many articles about Eastern Slavs. Sorry! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:45, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem,just dont forget to make the change on his biography,cause with this "biography" (which is written according to communist books he looks like a traitor). Thank youAlbertBikaj (talk) 05:52, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

-Dear Iryna Harpy,i made changes on Prek Cali,i added the reverences which i showed to you,and i hope you or any one else wont delete it,because this is the real story,the past one was according communist literature. If i have made any grammar mistake please correct it. I hope you will understand me. AlbertBikaj (talk) 17:58, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm not going to touch it at the moment, but I can't vouch for anyone else editing the page. Personally, I don't think the title 'Communist Propaganda' is appropriate. If it does get reverted, I can go back to your current edits when I get a moment and work out how to split it between one school of thought and another. I'm still seriously tied up in getting various Ukrainian and Russian articles about Crimea on track. It's taking up virtually all of my time, so don't panic if your content changes for the Prek Cali article are reverted as it's next on my list to sort out. Most importantly, don't engage in edit wars over the article because you won't win and will only get yourself blocked. Take a deep breath and remember that any propaganda there won't be there for long. It's better to have the article balanced and well sourced for future reference in the long run than end up having it remain with biased information permanently because you can't work on it at all. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:08, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

 Note: Still retaining so it doesn't get archived until I find time to get to it. Research heavy. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:56, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Prenk Cali

You stated that you will copy edit Prenk Cali article a couple of months ago. Will you please be so kind to clarify if you still have intention to copy edit this article or not?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:49, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I do intend to do so. The complexion on the matter changed when edit warring began and other editors called a halt to development of the article and the fact that, as texts are written in Albanian, we don't have expertise of knowledge enough about the subject to do anything more than remove information (that is, bring it back down to stub size) and build it up again slowly in consultation with those representing opposing points of view and establish whether there is a case for presenting both interpretations, or whether one is distinctly POV and shouldn't be represented in the article.

I have a few things I have to deal with first, but will contact editor Future Perf. as to resuming creating an informative and well written article of it. I'm afraid you'll have to bear with other demands on us taking precedence, but the article is by no means forgotten. I'd certainly like to see more articles about Albania developed, but admin has the right to impose sanctions on users over topics being warred over. Apologies for the delays as I know they must be extremely frustrating. Cheers for now! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:29, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. No frustration at all. Take all the time you need. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:44, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay. As you would have noted, I've left the content you've added intact in order that it isn't left at stub level. I'd certainly interpret the language as being neutral, and the content as not being controversial. Let's see if it triggers any reactions and take it from there. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

 Note: Still retaining so it doesn't get archived until I find time to get to it. Research heavy. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thqldpxm‎

Thanks for your attention to Thqldpxm‎'s editing, would you prefer it if I stopped commenting on the editor's talk page so there's only one conversation, considering the language difficulty?Keith-264 (talk) 06:17, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure that it will make much difference... but, yes, give the user a chance to respond to me. If you could check tomorrow as to whether there's been any further activity in terms of editing and give me a shout out one way or the other, that'd be useful. I could do with a reminder call considering the number of articles, DRN, ANI, RfC and other 'stuff' I'm buried in.

If there's a language difficulty, I should be able to recruit someone who knows their native language fairly quickly. I don't want to penalise someone who's just overly-enthusiastic for being enthusiastic. Nevertheless, at the moment Thqldpxm is wreaking havoc. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

 Note: Retaining to prevent archiving until issue is definitely resolved. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:57, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Apologize and Explanation unexplained remove

If you are offended by my edit, I apologize. My response is slow. I am very sorry

1.Mongol conquests, Soviet invasion of Poland
I had removed Tatar invasions, Battle of the Kalka River, Mongol invasion of Europe, Battle of Ain Jalut in Mongol conquests#See also

• Tatar invasions and Mongol and Tatar states in Europe. They are the same article.

• Battle of the Kalka River, Mongol invasion of Europe, Battle of Ain Jalut. They are duplicate contents. Because see Mongol conquests#Timeline

• Soviet invasion of Poland. It is the same reason mentioned above. They are duplicate contents.

2. Battle of Komarów (1914), Battle of Kraśnik

• I had removed Template:Campaignbox Eastern Front (World War I) in Battle of Komarów (1914) and Battle of Kraśnik. Because they part of Battle of Galicia. Of course, Battle of Galicia is part of Template:Campaignbox Eastern Front (World War I). But Battle of Komarów (1914) and Battle of Kraśnik, They are big part of the Battle of Galicia. But They are small part of the Template:Campaignbox Eastern Front (World War I).

I do not speak English well, sorry Please understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thqldpxm (talk • contribs) 14:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

 Note: Preventing archiving. Not sure that problems caused by poor English and difficulty in explaining rationale for battlebox changes has been resolved. Need to check back on situation. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:59, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thqldpxm

User talk:Thqldpxm Sorry about this but he (?) is at it again. Please helpKeith-264 (talk) 15:01, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I won't be able to get around to chasing it up until next week as I'm going on holiday (not even a laptop) until next weekend. You might need to take it to an ANI to curtail his/her activities in the interim. I'll check in as soon as I've returned. Leave me a message here to let me know how you're getting on. Best of luck! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:35, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, best wishes for the holliers.Keith-264 (talk) 06:07, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

 Note: User's inability to communicate in English is extremely problematic, particularly when dealing with battleboxes (or infoboxes of any description). It can't even guaranteed that the user understands the contents, parameters or usage for English Wikipedia. May need to seek admin advice if user starts editing again. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:02, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Rv:ethnic cleansing of the Circassians

Hello,

I see you just reverted the latest version of the [[1]] page. I don't see any reason why however, as me and Yalens both agreed to leave it like that until a consensus is reached. On top of that, there's so much more to fix about the version you just reverted, than about the version before it,(my version) as you might have noticed on the talk page discussion.

Regards. - LouisAragon (talk) 05:05, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

That's not exactly how I read Yalens's response. If Yalens agrees that this is his/her understanding, I'm happy to restore it to your previous version. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:34, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, the thing was he wrote me on my talk page saying he made a mistake by reverting, and wanted to leave it like that until a consensus was reached. I also told this once again, and he didn't reply anymore after my comment so we both agreed about it. [2] There are indeed some minor things that have to be added/restored, so no one will edit it in any other way before that has been finalized. Hope I made it a bit more clear like this? :-) - LouisAragon (talk) 19:21, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

That's fine. I think, for the sake of transparency (and as a record for other editors) it's best that the article talk page be used rather than individual user pages... particularly if it gets heated. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:54, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree with that. Guess he just wanted to reach me ASAP. Btw, I see you have Cossack blood and live in Australia? Interesting. My own gf has Cossack blood too (Kuban). It's nice to see people having a full conscious about their origins and/or ancestry despite being tens of thousands of miles away from that region. It's admirable for many in my opinion, especially nowadays. Regards and the best - LouisAragon (talk) 05:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Kuban Cossack lineage. Hmm, Kuban Cossacks actually haled from Zaporozhian Sich after it was razed by Catherine the Great. We could be distant relatives... That's one of the wonderful things about knowing about, and being interested in, your own history and the history of our species. We only occupy a short period of time on this planet, and the world really is a lot smaller than our egos might prefer to have it. Our forbears were responsible for both great and terrible deeds. Knowledge and assessment of the ramifications should, at least in theory, be the greatest tool at our disposal for enlightenment and progress rather than the devolution that's been taking place for more than the last 50 years. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:38, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Couldn't have said it any better. In many different ways it's utterly great that we are all unique individuals, with unique DNA, unique personalities, characters, shapes, amongst all other things, but in many other ways, especially regarding certain mindsets, I sometimes wished people were the same. Would've spared the world and every molecule on it lot of misery. Ah well, we humans are the "pinnacle of evolution". We have to take it for granted.

You could indeed be distant relatives! Are you Cossack by blood from both sides?

Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 01:24, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

100% on my mother's side, plain old Ukrainian (or Ruthenian) peasant on my father's (there's some Belarus somewhere along his lineage).

Good to see you and Yalens working so collaboratively on the article. I know it's a difficult one because there's so little documentation other than Russian secondary sources. Nice to see a serious attempt to lift it out of the POV rut it was stuck in. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 02:46, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it's indeed nice to have found a user with whom I can collaboratively improve that article. Indeed, apart from Russian sources there ain't too much to be found about it, especially from Turkish and Iranian sources, wich are especially needed.

Interesting. Your ancestry resembles that quite closely of my girlfriend; she's full Cossack on her maternal side, and (Eastern) Ukrainian peasant/Minor Polish nobility on her paternal side.

Btw Iryna, I saw you making some edits on this [[3]] page. And as I see now, someone is trying to push a certain PoV there, namely that the Central Asian republics are confirmed as Middle Eastern American too. Sounds like total bogus and agenda pushing to me (as he didn't even bother to add the real Central Asian republics, only Afghanistan wich is South Asian and Central Asian).

Care to drop down an opinion?

- LouisAragon (talk) 23:32, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

I spotted your comment there as it happens to be on my watchlist (possibly due to reverting vandalism or POV pushes by a user in the past). I can't recall actually having read the article in detail. Happy to pop in and take a look. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:40, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. First thing we have to do is revering all of it. If he has something totally new and deviatin to bring up, it's him who has to reach a WP:CON (which he won't reach as the census has never said that C.Asian republics are counted as ME). If he keeps pushing this agenda, we can bring it to the WP:ANI, but I don't think that's needed as of yet. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:13, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, Louis, I've been caught up in some serious tendentious editing issues elsewhere and haven't had a chance to leave a comment on the article page. I think that the whole article is bizarre because it doesn't actually properly address what Middle East actually means in the English speaking world (i.e., that it's a complex term, and an article on the subject would need to define Middle East carefully before applying it to X number of ethnic groups living in the US would require a serious definition of X). No, I don't see it as being an ANI issue at this point. What I do think might be needed is an RfC in order that X be defined. I'll get stuck in on the article talk page as soon as I get this other issue cleared up. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:30, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

good work

Firstly I would like to thank you for your active participation and then for adding useful informations :-):-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.237.58.156 (talk) 16:27, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:55, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Tall poppy syndrome / Jante law

I did not write that it was a "parallel term"; I said it is *similar*, which is true. People interested in one are likely to be interested in the other. Editors like you who want to nitpick and bicker over the fine criteria for excluding something that is obviously similar are why I have largely stopped editing Wikipedia. Kwertii (talk) 19:20, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

I've read through Jante law again, and am giving myself a trout slap. I was definitely being far too pedantic about the term. There is a distinct similarity as a sociological phenomena, so I've restored your addition. Thanks for popping by and pulling me up on the issue. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:10, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

I have a question. Why is a link to a research group considered an advertisement? Our group is just a place for descendants of Nadvirna to have info on the town stored in one place. It is non profit. Thank you.

Please respect Wikipedia rules

Xx236 (talk) 09:31, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Precisely. Do NOT use article talk pages as a forum for pasting blatant POV articles and attempting to disseminate disinformation.

Perhaps you and Kathvo should consider cleaning up your own backyard before you try to pour your own rubbish into someone else's.

A few of references of interest for your perusal:
[4];
[5];
[6].
... but serious research is yet to come. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 10:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

2014 pro-Russian conflict in Ukraine

Hey, [7] - I don't really get your argument here. Source for that statement is this article: [8]. Quote from there: "Russian must be made a second official language in Ukraine, and parties, movements, organizations and associations promoting radicalism should be banned, the authors also said." Russian wasn't a second official language previously, so it cannot be "restored" to such status.--Staberinde (talk) 15:48, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Quite right: I've reverted myself with a trout slap. My mind was stuck in the context rather than what was stated in the article (i.e., here, here, etc.)... but in the context of the conflict, it isn't appropriate. Cheers for pulling me up on that one! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:13, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

lets talk

i know you are pro Israel but i encourage you to open your eyes and do some research, and i m sorry but Israel hasn't won, peace treaty and surrounding and army with fewer tanks and during a ceasefire doesn't make you victorious — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.223.223.235 (talk) 18:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Please do not make assumptions about my political affiliations. Check the top of the article's talk page, plus read through all of the talk page archives carefully. Due to constant edit warring, the article is on the sanctions list. You would need to provide reliable source (that is, reliable secondary sources) in order to back your contention. It would also assist your case if you were to create an account. Unfortunately, IP contributors tend to be reverted or dismissed more readily than those with an account. I am leaving details as to how to create an account, plus information as to the benefits of having an account on your page. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:24, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Religion in Bulgaria

Dear fellow, you recently reverted my edit on religion in Bulgaria, saying that the image of a mosque already exists on page. Then you left a message saying that I have been engaged in a dispute which is totally wrong.I am not engaged in any content dispute. I just made a constructive edit which you reverted. Orthodoxy and Islam are the main religions in Bulgaria. There is an image of orthodox church on the top of article and there is also another image in the main section. So there is nothing wrong in placing two images of different mosques also.Septate (talk) 03:19, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

My sincerest apologies, Septate. I opened your talk page in order to leave a message that I'd removed the image per WP:PERTINENCE and download size of pages. The template I'd added to your talk page was intended for another user. I'm trout slapping myself, and have removed the inappropriate template. Again, apologies for the error! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:52, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Its OK. Everyone makes mistakes including me. No need for apologies.Septate (talk) 04:10, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Cheers for being gracious about it. Working on current affairs articles, as well as doing other bits and pieces simultaneously, is a Wikipedian occupational hazard! Anyway, if you think the additional pic of a mosque is appropriate for the article, feel free to revert me. I don't have any objections other than overcrowding the page. I'm wondering whether a small WP:GALLERY wouldn't be a good idea for some of the pages you've been updating. A couple of feature images are good, but (for the sake of showing off historically remarkable and beautiful architecture), a thumbnail gallery would take up the same amount of bytes, would give the text some breathing room, plus would allow readers to have a selection of various religious building to take a peek at if they're interested. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:27, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

WikiDefender Barnstar

Not in reference to any particular matter, I am grateful that a braver soul than mine dares repeatedly to demonstrate coolness under fire when my own courage melts away. Is there a barnstar or medal for that? Well, yes, pretty close. Jim.henderson (talk) 21:13, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Aw, thanks, Jim.henderson. I'm not certain that there's any bravery involved. Perhaps my inner masochist enjoys being punch-drunk. Might it be a touch of "Cool Hand Luke" syndrome? I'm not comfortable with "a failure to communicate". --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:30, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

So sorry

Dear Iryna Harpy. I am so sorry - my fingers missbehaved - and I was just wanting to look what had been said. A complete accident..... I must and will be more careful, Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2014 (UTC))

That's fine, Msrasnw. I suspected that it was an accident. Not to worry! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:14, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, it was not for you!

I've undone an undone post that would be directed to "Volunteer Marek", not for you, I'm sorry for that!. I'll clarify that both in the talk article "Timeline of the 2014 pro-Russian conflict in Ukraine" and in his own talk page! Sorry for mentioning you!Mondolkiri1 (talk) 00:47, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

That's okay. I was just about to leave a comment on your page to let you know I'd actually been the one to restore the content after an IP had blanked it. You were obviously confused because I'd started a basic copyedit in between that and VM's reworking of the content. Considering the speed with which edits occur, it's hardly a surprise that we get confused. No offence taken! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Well, Iryna, be free to write in my Talk Page! Let's be friends here, OK? Greetings Mondolkiri1 (talk) 01:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

If you have time for an obscure topic...

Check this out. Comments would be welcome: Blue Army (Poland).Faustian (talk) 14:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I've taken a cursory look. WT..? --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:20, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

A fair word of advice

As I also explained to you on the talk page your Machiavellian methods of resolving disputes are unacceptable and have effectively forfeited the fact that we should have any normal discussion. Your attempt to undermine my editorial credibility by attacking my supposed ethnic and religious background whilst being generally rude and sarcastic [9] is breach of WP:CIVIL, WP:FAITH, and WP:PERSONAL whilst also establishing a WP:BATTLEGROUND here. [10] Not to mention the fact that you are tossing around threats of ANI and "formal venues" as if they were grass seed. Just make sure to keep in mind WP:BOOMERANG will you. Praxis Icosahedron ϡ (TALK) 14:54, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Dear User:Iryna Harpy, you challenged User:Praxis Icosahedron on talk:Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina, that if he were a Sunni Muslim bosniak then he may not be able to remain neutral on this topic. I am asking you the same question. User peaceworld is a devout Ahmadi Muslim. Will he remain neutral when it comes to Sunni Islam and ahmadiyya movement. Seriously speeking, user peaceworld has a great influence on me too. I used to be neutral while editing Islam related articles but thanks to his pro-Ahmadi edits I have become pro-Sunni, pro-Shia.Septate (talk) 06:20, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

If you don't believe me, please have a look at the edit history of Intercalation (timekeeping), see the edit made by user peaceworld(Obvious POV and pro-Ahmadi) which I reverted. This is one of the thousands of the examples of his pro-ahmadi edits. I need you explanation.Septate (talk) 06:29, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out that focal ambiguity, Septate. Clearly, though, there is a lack of good faith with the user in question being quick to attempt the unjustified incrimination and undermining of editors she may not agree with or understand, effectively pointing to a battleground mentality as already demonstrated. The user, moreover, quite unnecessarily brings the matter to a head by engaging in "private" deliberation with "Peaceworld" where she "envisages" the matter going to the administrator's noticeboard because dispute resolution would apparently be futile. In fact, the user has not yet demonstrated the sincere will to hear out or truly understand the counter arguments. I firstly welcome an honest and sincere dialogue between the editors involved characterized by a genuine intention to understand each other, and in case that leads no where, dispute resolution or a request for comment. The so far only incident about the whole situation that would actually warrant ANI is Iryna Harpy's inappropriate behaviour. WP:TPNO for example ordains Do not ask for another's personal details. Let us try to avoid shooting ourselves in the foot.Praxis Icosahedron ϡ (TALK) 01:28, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Praxis Icosahedron and Septate - In case you have not noticed the tag on the top of this and my user page, I've only just managed to troubleshoot my computer in order to keep it going until my new computer arrives, at which point I'll need to configure the new one. Hopefully, this will all be accomplished by the end of the week.

In the meantime, you're more that welcome to start an ANI into my "Machiavellian" editing behaviour, points of civility... plus all of the other supposedly WP:TE I have deployed against the both of you. After all, it is abundantly clear that you are neutral editors whose AGF and impeccable credentials stand on their own merits for any neutral administrator to see. Looking forward to discussing the issue of WP:OWN, as well as a persisting inability to understand my "bureaucratic" position regarding the difference between the WP:TITLE and the content (title = "Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina" / title ≠ "Bosniaks" / title ≠ "Islamization of Bosnia and Herzegovina".

Incidentally, Septate, take care with invoking WP:TPNO after describing Peaceworld as "... thanks to his pro-Ahmadi edits I have become pro-Sunni, pro-Shia." and user talk page sections with your POV and quizzing Peaceworld as to personal opinions. Praxis, after your characterisations of me as opposed to your AGF editing and edit summaries, as well as "discussions" earlier in the year, yes... I would seriously be concerned about WP:BOOMERANG per WP:IUC: "You need to learn boundaries, honestly. You're always welcome to stalk my page if you like. I'm flattered. Just beware of WP:WIKISTALKING. Like I said, I will not be discussing with a person who so deliberately creates an oppressive personal environment." Wikistalking? Oppressive personal environment (my querying where the content is going is "oppressive" to you)? Finally, there is nothing invidious about my missive on Peaceworld's talk page as I am fully aware the you both have that talk page on your watchlist (i.e., rather sharp don't you think, Septate?). For the moment, happy editing to you both; and be careful of "focal ambiguities". --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:27, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I will not be editing this article for quite some time. Do away with it best you like. Cheers. I'm disappointed it should have to be this way. And for your information, I am an agnostic. Praxis Icosahedron ϡ (TALK) 06:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you've taken this personally, Praxis Icosahedron. My only concern was not giving some form of very brief acknowledgement be given to forms of Islam in the contemporary nation-state, and have no intention of making any changes other than a nodding, but not UNDUE, reference in the lead. Should Peaceworld, or any others, try to use it as a WP:COATRACK, I would/will be just as persistent about tossing anything undue out. I truly do strive for neutrality and the kind of information a reader would expect to encounter. It's a pity our paths have crossed in such an unpleasant manner as I certainly feel that you are one of the good ones. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:50, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Dear User:Iryna Harpy, you mentioned that the article is (title = "Islam in Bosnia and Herzegovina" / title ≠ "Bosniaks" / title ≠ "Islamization of Bosnia and Herzegovina". But my dear fellow the article before my edit stated the following thing The Bosniaks are predominantly Muslim by religion, the majority of which are Sunni Muslims who subscribe to the Hanafi school of thought, while a minority are Shia Muslims subscribing to the Twelvers school of thought. There are also a small number who subscribe to the Ahmadiyya school of thought. Can you explain this? This statement is clearly about religion of Bosniaks not Islam in Bosnia. Furthermore, it doesnot distinguish between whether minority of bosniaks are Ahmadi or minority of Bosnians are Ahmadi.

Regarding my question about homosexuality, I only asked it for my own information. I didn't want to hurt peaceworld. The only thing that went wrong was that neither peaceworld nor you would expect me being gay. But its true that I am homosexual but I hate being homosexual (That's my personal matter). I know Sunni and Shia views regarding gays but not about Ahmadi views. I hope you would understand.Septate (talk) 07:39, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

My humble suggestion would be to stop wastage of time. Peaceworld should provide a reliable source regarding ahmadis in Bosnia (plz don't give book source because no one can verify it) and mention ahmadis at the right place in the article which they deserve.Septate (talk) 07:47, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Dear all, I am not interested in writing chunks of paragraphs to defend myself (which I could). I'd just like to say that having a particular editing interest is no crime.@User:Septate, User:Praxis Icosahedron--Peaceworld 11:37, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Help with translation?

I'm looking for a bit of help with translation of a map from the Russian Wikipedia. Under the heading География действий at the page Вооружённый конфликт на востоке Украины (2014), there is a good map of all the battles that have taken place in Donetsk and Luhansk. I'd like such a map for our 2014 insurgency in Donetsk and Luhansk article, but I can't at all figure out how to translate it and transfer it over here. Do you think you could help me get that map into our article? Or perhaps you know someone that can? RGloucester — ☎ 22:43, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

It's based on a generic map using a template available in Russian Wikipedia. If there's an English version of the template, I could put it together in a half an hour or so. The problem is that I don't know if there is a corresponding English Wikipedia template. I'll search around, but will ping Ezhiki and Ymblanter in case they can help out. —Iryna Harpy (talk) 03:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much. RGloucester — ☎ 03:33, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I've found the correlating template and have made a start on the map here. There are still a few hidden comments in need of being translated, plus the visible translations are rough. You might want to change the titles and descriptions from the sandbox map, or by leaving comments on its corresponding talk page. Cheers! —Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:58, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Perfect! I really appreciate it. RGloucester — ☎ 06:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

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		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week, for being so kind to others and claming down many edit wars. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

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I nominate Iryna Harpy as Editor of the Week. She approaches all matters in good faith and has her heart in the right "humanitarian" place. She gets involved with calming down many edit wars, POV pushing and editor disputes. She steps into conflicts and makes clear, understandable distinctions for both sides. She works on articles about ex-Soviet republics, the Balkans and the Middle East, fighting POV fanatics and is willing to expend inordinate amounts of time following their trails and reverting where necessary. She is happy to avail herself in discussions surrounding content and has cultivated an ability to remain as objective as is possible...."committed to accessibility without sacrificing comprehension". In her own words she "lives the life of the NPOV Wikipedian, happy to clarify distinctions". A fellow editor thanked her for "..disagreeing without being disagreeable". Not many editors can get that level of acclaim.

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Thanks again for your efforts! Jim Carter ^(talk) 08:16, 29 June 2014 (UTC)