User talk:GregorB

The Snježana Kordić article

Hello; since I've seen that disgrace of promo-campaign at en wiki (and I'm bored with edit wars)- would you be interested in reshaping it into a more balanced & truthful text ? As it is, the text is similar to the "Pravda" pamphlets during Brezhnev's era. You got tons of quotable & realistic material at Croatian wikipedia. Best Mir Harven (talk) 12:02, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

I understand. Be as it may, the article is a complete junk, one-sided & irrelevant sources simply adding to the heap of lies. One could write an article, fully supported by quotations from Stalin, Goebbels, Molotov, Ribbentrop .. on the necessity of German- Soviet 1939. pact, and it would still be nothing but bunk. The entire article should be erased, but this is highly unlikely. Wiki has long since become a battleground re controversial themes & not a credible source of information. Mir Harven (talk) 16:21, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Edo Stojčić

As far as I can see, you nominated Edo Stojčić for deletion. I am a bit baffled as as to why you would question his notability (at least you gave no arguments). Please don't do bot's work. Try to help and improve the article or give a good, coherent argument as to why you think Edo Stojčić is not notable enough or why you think his works are not significant enough. ★čabrilo★ 09:33, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I'd rather reply here instead of the AfD page as it would be off topic there. Anyway, please consider this a friendly criticism of a person who was active on Wikipedia from 2004, but had to give it a rest due to personal obligations: You really didn't give a clear argument. Please keep the following in mind when nominating articles for deletion:

1. Not everybody is well versed with Wikipedia's procedures and the reading of pages such as WP:ANYBIO is not particularly easy for somebody who doesn't frequent Wikipedia often.
2. Many contributors (including myself) have a limited time to spend on Wikipedia. Since this site is a collaborative effort, it would be much more productive to give a detailed description of which problems you find with the article and how you think it can be improved. Slapping a boilerplate message and adding some tags is not too helpful.

Your time would be, in my opinion, much better spent if you spent your efforts on trying to recruit contributors from e.g. Rijeka to find sources to help improve the article.

As far as Edo Stojčić goes: I don't really have enough time to "fight" for it, but I think it's worth fighting for, since the guy is a great satirist and a good writer. He was most prolific around 2002 when he was relatively often in the media (especially in Istria and the parts of Croatia he lives in), so Google is not the best way to find information on him, but his books are available in libraries throughout the world (I first found him in a library in Kansas). So, I am asking you, as a fellow Wikipedia contributor, if you have spare time and some will, to please try to dig out some online sources or to recruit people from Rijeka to help you find offline sources. A good start is here: an article in Slobodna Dalmacija that lists a number of critics that praised his works (Igor Mandić, Fadil Hadžić, Marinko Krmpotić, Siniša Pavić). Best of luck, whether you decide to help with this article or not. ★čabrilo★ 09:59, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Rimac Concept One

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Non-free images

Hi! Could you please give me any advice on use of non-free images? Specifically, I'm not entirely sure what procedure need be followed to have fair-use apply to specific photos. Details are posted at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on the issue. I tried to upload one of those, but the upload form seems to be too complex for me right now - explaining why words alone are not sufficient, why I'm confident commercial opportunities will not be harmed etc... There's still other things to do with the article.--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:47, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Phew. Managed to get one off the ground. Could you please have a look if I messed up the NFC rationale there?--Tomobe03 (talk) 17:58, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. I hope to get the rest of the images in place by the weekend, and the article is a lead rework away from GAN!--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Done!--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:02, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Just occurred to me... need the images be tagged by the wikiproject?--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Trial of Gotovina et al

Hi! In an effort to make some sense in the Operation Storm article (and get it to GA or FA in the process) I thought to move out a part of material on the Trial of Gotovina et al to a new article, leaving a summary in the Operation Storm article. Basically I moved the "ICTY trials" [sic] section to the new article (fixing an unreferenced claim in the process) breaking it up in two sections (indictments and trial), added background and aftermath sections and the said (slightly modified) summary as a lead. Now, I wanted to start a talk page for the article, borrowing from Talk:Trial of Slobodan Milošević, but there are so many projects listed that got me to pause and ask you to see which would be appropriate to tag this new article. Thanks!--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:47, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Mind you, the copied material needs a lot of work, but I think it would be best done in the new article.--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:48, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

The text (Indictments and Trial sections only) is actually moved from the Operation Storm and replaced there with a summary. Does it still need the copied template then? I agree that the article needs much work yet, but I think it is a good start, especially since a lot of the material there has little bearing on the military aspects of the operation now that the final verdict is out.--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:52, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Just to be on the safe side, that goes someplace in the talk page?--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:03, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Risking being quite silly, but is that Talk:Operation Storm or Talk:Trial of Gotovina et al?--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

After thinking about it a bit, if it aims to provide attribution of the text moved, there's no point in placing it in the original article talk as the text is no longer there. If it is dealing with copied text instead, there'd be a reason to place the template at both - therefore I'm opting for the destination talk only (for now at least).--Tomobe03 (talk) 00:48, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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Split Agreement

Hi! Is there a way to include this into the Split Agreement article?--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:18, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Actually I meant if one of those tags similar to commons category should be used even if the wikisource is hr wikisource. If not, I'll add a link to the full text of the declaration in the external links.--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:11, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I've submitted the article to WP:MILHIST B-class assessment - to save us the trouble.--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:54, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Karađorđevo agreement

Hi! Just had a look at Karađorđevo agreement - and I noticed that WP.Cro importance of the article was set to High. Since the Erdut Agreement is of Mid importance, I feel something's wrong there, but I'm not sure which. I'm leaning to demoting the Karađorđevo agreement to Mid or even Low importance, but I'd really appreciate your opinion here. Thanks!--Tomobe03 (talk) 17:21, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Redirecting

Hi,

Can you please help with this issue?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:20, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

It works now. Thank you very much for your help. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:05, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

B-class

Hi! It appears that the B-class business is nearly over - it only took three months longer than I first thought it would! What happens after the last one on the list is tagged? Cheers!--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Huh. Talk about synchronicity. Well, yes, add them to the table or simply list them at the end. If they meet B-class criteria, that should be a breeze.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:12, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes, 41 have been reassessed (tagged) plus three that are still pending on the list. That leaves 8 extra articles someplace.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:35, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Wait! I rewrote some articles and MILHIST project reassessed them... most of them are Bs now: Battle of Gospić, Battle of Kupres (1994), Bombing of Banski dvori, Operation Jackal, Operation Summer '95, Operation Tiger (1992), Siege of Dubrovnik... that's 7.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Now it has it. All seven were recently reviewed by WP:MHA process, so it's safe to assume they're all clear. It's just one article missing then.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:49, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Found the missing one: Ustaše Militia!--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:53, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Looks like we're finished... (Whew!) I'll switch the checklist option on this evening (time permitting), and then we'll notify the project. GregorB (talk) 15:32, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Great! At least we have now meaningful B-class ratings in place and clear-cut pointers for development of more than a hundred articles - 48 B's to take to the GAN and 60-ish C's with deficiencies spelled out so those can be remedied over time.--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:58, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Duplication

Hi! Just now I copyedited the Operation Storm article and realized that the article I just recently wrote - Vance plan includes all information contained in the Sarajevo Agreement, while the two are not entirely synonymous. Need anything be done or is that situation fine?--Tomobe03 (talk) 08:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Redirected until more info can be fleshed out on say, negotiations that precipitated the Sarajevo Agreement.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:22, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

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Chrystine Tauber

What do you mean?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:40, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by reviewing a page. Please explain.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:55, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:12, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Choice of an appropriate article title

Hi! Could you please provide feedback at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#Suitable name for a campaign? I posted at WP:MILHIST talk page since the issue largely falls within the project scope, but I trust you might provide a good advice too.--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:35, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

WPS

Hi,

I am glad to inform you that WPS has no unassessed articles in terms of their quality. What do you think could be next actions of members of this project? Thanks in advance.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:21, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

• I am also surprised that the huge backlog has been dealt with so quickly. Most of the job did User:Milicevic01. I followed his assessments and after a couple of remarks I think they did it properly.
• Thank you very much for your advices:
  • Making the Main page of WPS more compact
  • reviving the Announcements section
  • motivate people to do more of what they would have done anyway, and, occasionally, to show them a new and better way of doing things
  • Reviving the Collaboration of the Week

Thank you. I will try to follow your advices. Do you know why Redirect sorting does not work in our project?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:52, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I am talking about redirect-class assessment. Currently there is only one article listed within redirects in the Assessment box. That one I assessed manually myself. Based on your instructions here WhiteWriter created subpage of wp Serbia banner. I thought it is necessary to wait for a while, but there is no result after two months. I am sorry to bother you with this, but if you are able to help it would be highly appreciated.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:33, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes. There are many redirects which are tagged as such withing the tag WPS. But instead of Redirect it is classified as NA. I.e. Srbija.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:29, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:26, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

A subtle note

I just had a look at the Lisa Stublić and Sandra Perković articles, and it's a real pity those are not already at the GAN... If you know what I mean. :) Tomobe03 (talk) 20:43, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

By the way, and this is entirely unimportant, how come the WP:CRO notifications show some A-class reviews, but not the others? Does it have to do with ACR parameter placement in the article talk banner?--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:19, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

I know there's one at Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways/Assessment/A-Class Review/D21 road (Croatia).--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:58, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Savo Štrbac

I have created a discussion at BLP/Noticeboard to discuss Savo Štrbac. Your participation would be appreciated. Stephen! ^Coming... 12:09, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Vukopis

Stavil sam vire na Vukopis. Liepo pozdravjenje Vukopisac (talk) 19:16, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

In the future, when you encounter this kind of a page, please apply WP:ATP ({{db-attack}}). --Joy [shallot] (talk) 10:14, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I actually would have concurred, but another user modified it to be less of an attack page, rendering the tag moot. When I came across it, I just cleaned it up further. The key difference is that "Vukopis" was both an attack page and a fringe biased rant by a single-purpose account, cherry-picking references to largely non-reliable sources and DoSing us with a list of generic uninlined "references", all about a topic that is not generally notable even if it's truthful. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 11:30, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

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Opinion sought

Hi. Could you please venture an opinon here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trial of Gotovina et al. I already posted there, but I have next to no experience on the AFDs. Thanks.--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

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I nominate Editor GregorB as Editor of the Week for his tireless contributions to articles, templates and performance of tasks often considered too tedious to pick up by any other editor, including fixing citations, assessing a wide range of articles and contributing a lion's share (if not virtually all) of maintenance work on the WikiProject Croatia pages. As a result, he is one of the most prolific editors of the English Wikipedia, currently well within top 200 most active editors on wiki with more than 132,000 edits since he started editing eight years ago! His other contributions include 21 successful Did you know? nominations and a Featured list of Croatian submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film. He is always ready to give advice or lend a hand when asked, and regularly plays a constructive role in any discussion - a true team player!

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GregorB

Croatia

Editor of the Week for the week beginning June 16, 2013

A random article patroller with over 130000 edits, more than 20 DYN mentions and 8 tears plus of diligent and active WP participation.

Recognized for

"tons of quality edits"

Nomination page

• You're welcome. Modesty aside, your work is as valuable as a couple-dozen FAs as a wiki-project of a hundred articles, no matter how good, would not make much sense without tens of thousands of edits you make. EotW rules made my choice of a WPHR editor (I instantly though of two deserving editors, if you get my drift) to nominate very simple since the award is reserved for non-admins - and I honestly believe you and Joy equally deserve such a praise. Keep up the good work, and - cheers!--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
• Thank you for your long years of adding to the quality of the Encyclopedia. ```Buster Seven Talk 12:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

• A most sincere thank you for the years of quality edits. Editors like you are the backbone of Wikipedia. You may not get the spotlight, but you add relevance and substance to the project. Without editors like you, it would be a much lesser place. Wish we could clone you ;-) Good job. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | © | WER 13:24, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
• Thanks for all you do for the project, GregorB! -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:58, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
• I sign every word of the comment Dennis Brown wrote above. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:10, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
• Congrats! Sounds like this honor is well-deserved! Gandydancer (talk) 12:13, 24 June 2013 (UTC)