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* [[:Category:American street performers]] to [[:Category:American buskers]] – C2C: Per the rest of [[:Category:Buskers by nationality]]. [[User:QuietHere|QuietHere]] ([[User talk:QuietHere|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/QuietHere|contributions]]) 20:28, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
* REDIRECT [[:Category:Yichun Grand Tiger F.C.]] to [[:Category:Jiangxi Dark Horse Junior F.C.]] – C2D per [[Jiangxi Dark Horse Junior F.C.]] [https://www.thecfa.cn/lstz/20220425/30604.html Source] from the Chinese Football Association. (Junior F.C. is the 43th listing on that source page) [[User:IDontHaveSkype|IDontHaveSkype]] ([[User talk:IDontHaveSkype|talk]]) 20:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
* REDIRECT [[:Category:Yichun Grand Tiger F.C.]] to [[:Category:Jiangxi Dark Horse Junior F.C.]] – C2D per [[Jiangxi Dark Horse Junior F.C.]] [https://www.thecfa.cn/lstz/20220425/30604.html Source] from the Chinese Football Association. (Junior F.C. is the 43th listing on that source page) [[User:IDontHaveSkype|IDontHaveSkype]] ([[User talk:IDontHaveSkype|talk]]) 20:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
* [[:Category:BC Avtodor Saratov players]] to [[:Category:BC Avtodor players]] – C2D: [[BC Avtodor]] '''<sup>[[User:Dieter Lloyd Wexler|<span style="color:#552582;">Dieter</span>]] [[User talk:Dieter Lloyd Wexler|<span style="color:#061922;">Lloyd</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dieter Lloyd Wexler|<span style="color:#FDB927;">Wexler</span>]]</sup>''' 18:40, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
* [[:Category:BC Avtodor Saratov players]] to [[:Category:BC Avtodor players]] – C2D: [[BC Avtodor]] '''<sup>[[User:Dieter Lloyd Wexler|<span style="color:#552582;">Dieter</span>]] [[User talk:Dieter Lloyd Wexler|<span style="color:#061922;">Lloyd</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dieter Lloyd Wexler|<span style="color:#FDB927;">Wexler</span>]]</sup>''' 18:40, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.

  1. Determine which speedy criterion applies
  2. Tag category page with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} or {{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
  3. List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page

Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.

Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.

Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.

To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:

  • Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~

You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.

Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.

If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.

Speedy criteria

The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:

C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes

  • Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
  • Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
  • Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.

C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices

C2C: Consistency with established category tree names

Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names

  • This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
  • This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
  • This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).

C2D: Consistency with main article's name

  • Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
  • This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
    • unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
    • uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
  • This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
  • Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.

C2E: Author request

  • This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
  • The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.

C2F: One eponymous page

  • This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{subst:cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).

Admin instructions

When handling the listings:

  1. Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
  2. With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
  3. Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.

If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.

Applying speedy criteria in full discussions

  • A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
    • The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
    • No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
  • If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.

Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here

If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.

Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:

* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:

* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:

* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 23:43, 21 May 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 57 open requests (refresh).


Current requests

Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

Oppose Washington, D.C. and the District of Columbia have not always been coterminous. There really needs to be a full discussion of these renamings. Jahaza (talk) 19:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Opposed requests

Oppose disambiguation is not necessary, name should change to Category:Glenister familyJahaza (talk) 03:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Category:Hispanic and Latino American diasporas in the United States to Category:Hispanic and Latino diaspora in the United States – C2C; parent cat is Category:Hispanic and Latino. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Oppose this one as is. The parent category is Category:Hispanic and Latino American society, and current category usage seems to consistently use Hispanic and Latino American for these groups within the U.S., and just Hispanic and Latino for these groups and cultures in other American countries. Anyway this is just a container for national diaspora categories, and I kinda doubt it is really useful to have LAtin American containers for diasporas overlapping North/South American and other continental containers. Place Clichy (talk) 05:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      @Place Clichy, the category contains countries from the Caribbean, Africa, Central and South America, and Europe which were all otherwise mixed up with other categories in Category:Hispanic and Latino American society. I thought this a good solution for the sake of organizing the parent category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      Only now do I realise that you have just created this category. In my opinion diaspora categories could all be placed flatly in Category:Diasporas in <country>, and if we want to sort them a little bit for practical reasons only, we should better stick to a consistent, albeit imperfect, continent-based scheme of Africa/Asia/Europe/North/South America/Oceania. Multiple overlapping schemes do not add anything, because there is an infinity of ways to group countries by geographic/cultural/linguistic/ethnic proximity, none of which is totally immune of POVs and over-simplification. These competing schemes do not bring anything in terms of diffusion. Caribbean diasporas/cultures should be in North American categories. Place Clichy (talk) 08:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      @Place Clichy, I made this particular solve a bigger problem within Category:Hispanic and Latino American society. I could have just added these to their respect continents but I didn't want to seperate the diaspora categories from the Category:Hispanic and Latino American society.
      There are quite a few such categories though - Pacific Islander, Caribbean, Arab, Middle Eastern, etc. - for groups who don't share a single continent and have a distinct identity. In every case, there is a parent category as well. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:28, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's clear from the discussion at that page (WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2 § Category:American suffragists by state) that "territory" is being used in an ambiguous way: it could mean the historical Territories but could also mean the current Unincorporated territories (plus, perhaps more confusing yet, it could mean both). This can be a source of serious confusion and of constant mis-subcategorization as 3 groups of editors (perhaps more groups if we consider the combinations of those 3 groups) could emerge. The discussion at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 November 2 § Category:American suffragists by state alludes to a historical Territory, the Territory of Wyoming, while, IMO, most editors will think of any US-rooted category named "by state or territory" to mean the "50 states & DC" OR "the CURRENT unincorporated territories of the US". Mercy11 (talk) 07:42, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion you cite as precedent clearly concluded for consensus to rename to Category:American suffragists by state or territory, which is the opposite of what you say. Place Clichy (talk) 06:40, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      • I counted 247 of these where the change would be to move the category to "...in the United States by state or territory" and the problem is with the word "in". Making a category like that continues to perpetuate incorrectly that PR and the other territories are "in" the US. Because the territories are insular areas of the United States does not mean they are "in" or "part of". The Supreme Court and Insular Cases gets a little technical but the definitions of these insular areas and territories of the US are clear. So the category, if moved (as some have already been speedily moved) to "...in the United States by state or territory" would be incorrect. The changes which were already made should be reverted. See definition of Insular areas / territories of the US. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 15:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On hold pending other discussion

  • They can be combined for full CfD with the one further down below for full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • That is a good point. The previous rename was a step in the right direction, but not spot on yet, as someone also commented in that discussion. Better move this to full CfD then. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to full discussion

Also, this category has been renamed in full discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_1#X_by_Y_in_Z. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:44, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle, I would indeed agree that it should be "American people by" but shouldn't that be discussed at full Cfd, since the rest of the categories in Category:People by populated place in the United States also stated with "People of the United States by..."?
Also, I don't think this particular category was discussed in the discussion you linked. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:44, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, it was, see [3]. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, I completely missed that. Thank you! I wasn't aware of this. But I would say that the other categories should also be named with such a format. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:15, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ready for deletion

Check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the WP:CFD process.

Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.