User talk:Star Mississippi

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Thanks

Thanks @Knitsey, Netherzone, and Acroterion:, especially the latter handling my IAR self protection. Much appreciated. Not sure who I pissed off Star Mississippi 01:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Good grief that was nasty of whoever it was. Netherzone (talk) 01:10, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome. Big team effort today. Acroterion (talk · contribs) will be next. Knitsey (talk) 01:10, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

It's one of our perennial socks who's been hitting admin talkpages. An edit filter would probably take care of it. They've done that on half a dozen. Acroterion (talk) 01:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I was going to ask about an edit filter? Knitsey (talk) 01:26, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, it's the best option since it's a widely-used image that's hard to blacklist. Acroterion (talk) 01:30, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of an edit filter but happy to help if I can otherwise. Star Mississippi 01:40, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I've put in a request at WP:EFR. Acroterion (talk) 01:54, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

and adding my thanks to Taking Out The Trash who wins on name. At least this was just your garden variety vandal. I admit I laugh at their humor. DNFTT, I know. Thanks! Star Mississippi 01:27, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks again @Knitsey. If I were barnstar proficient, I'd award you one for patrolling the nonsense here. I have no idea why I am that editor's target but hopefully @ToBeFree's block ends the nonsense. Thanks both! Star Mississippi 01:52, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Who knows what goes through some peoples heads. No barnstar needed, I know you would do the same. Knitsey (talk) 01:58, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Acroterion's talk page just got hit by another IP with the same flag. Netherzone (talk) 02:57, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up @Netherzone. Saw this just before I logged off for bed and returned the semi-protection favor. Star Mississippi 03:00, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

What's interesting is that the first two IPs that hit your page geolocated to the Netherlands, and the one who hit Acroterion's talk page, whereas this one is in the UK. Copy cat troll? Pathetic. Netherzone (talk) 03:03, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@Acroterion said at least one was a proxy. I'm assuming they all are frankly. Europe would make sense for awake, bored trolls. Have a good night! Star Mississippi 03:04, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Another one was from the Philippines. Sometimes the proxy edit nodes bunch up and you get a series from the same area, or they use a service that lets you choose. I wold treat them all as proxies. Acroterion (talk) 03:20, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Another one here [1] from the UK. Edit filter is The Way. Acroterion (talk) 03:21, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks again for the overnight cleanup. I'm offline the bullk of today and re-semi'ed it so you three (and any other helpers) don't have to deal. My only ongoing conversation with a new ish user is below and they're confirmed so we're good. Star Mississippi 12:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Y u mad at Frank Morano

Why’d you delete a page with several people who wrote that it was worthy of being on Wikipedia? Who left a mess in your breakfast bowl? Why you mad bro? RobotUSA (talk) 05:36, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Writing he was worthy doesn't mean he meets the guidelines for the project. If you believe my close was wrong, please file a deletion review. And please don't call people "bro" Star Mississippi 12:42, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

In case Robot USA brings it up on their talk page, in an appeal against their ban or even in an email to you, I will have to point out here that I am Spud on RationalWiki. I am the one who deleted the badly copied and pasted article on Frank Morano on RationalWiki. @Robot USA: I am not the same person as Star Mississippi. The same person is not pursuing a vendetta against you or Frank Morano across multiple wikis. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 06:03, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for that context, @Simon Peter Hughes. Much appreciated Star Mississippi 11:27, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Salt

When you closed Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show you salted the title, but the draft has been recreated again, this time under the title Draft:Object shows. Personally, I'm not a great fan of salting titles, because the effect is often just to cause future re-creations to come under different titles, and it's possible to watch the existing title, but not to watch every conceivable new variation of the title which may be used. JBW (talk) 20:09, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Ugh, I really wish the BFDI fanatics would find a new hobby. I see by Draft:Object Shows I'd moved on to just blocking by the time that version wandered across my radar. I'm happy to unprotect the singular draft if you think it would be helpful. Let me know, and thanks for flagging! Star Mississippi 23:56, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

It might not make much difference, since the creations are already taking place under several different titles anyway. On the other hand, having one more obvious title available might reduce the pressure on them to come up with different titles, and therefore slightly likelihood of their finding one we haven't seen before. My own feeling is that protection isn't actually achieving anything, as it doesn't deter re-creation, so I would be inclined to leave it unprotected, but I don't feel very strongly about it. JBW (talk) 10:32, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Makes all the sense. Unprotecting momentarily.

I wish we had a filter that caught the nonsense, maybe one day.

Thanks so much for flagging the issue. Star Mississippi 14:18, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Bringing this back from the Archive given this week's disruption and @Courcelles: re-protection @JBW:. Do we think an edit filter might help? I'll flag too for Liz who got one of this week's versions too. Thanks both! Star Mississippi 18:06, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

It might be my advanced age or the number of hours I spend on this freakin' project but no page is coming to mind here. I look at probably hundreds of pages every day. Can you provide a link to whatever I handled that called me to mind? Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:31, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Speaking of protecting pages, I do so pretty liberally but I find it works best when you protect an article on a person or organizations name, when you have persistent editors wanting to create autobiographies or paid editing rings. For something like BFDI, there are lots of different possible article titles but if your name is Hank Williams, there are not that many different varieties to create an article with that person's name.

By the way, I'm pretty sure that we already have an edit filter for BFDI. Don't ask me to find it for you but I believe I've come across it when looking at edit filter results in the past. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:35, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, it's Draft:Object show and Draft:Object shows. Oooh. Thanks for heads up. Will find someone who speaks edit filter. Star Mississippi 11:28, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't see that I deleted either one of these draft articles. I thought you pinged me because I deleted a related article. But maybe you just wanted me to share my fascinating thoughts about page protection. ;- ) Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:14, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

That's because I'm a capitalization menance and it was Draft:Object Shows, but I always like your thoughts. Anyway, never mind. The protection seems to have solved it for the moment/they got bored. Star Mississippi 01:50, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Review a draft new page?

Hi Star_Mississippi. We worked well together (at least I think this!) a couple years ago to create the page for Susan Vogel. I'm creating another page, something I do pretty rarely, and would appreciate having some good smart people look it over before I take it live. Could I ask you to? I'd just paste the link here but see you are on vacation - enjoy. Thanks. Sullidav (talk) 15:56, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Sullidav and great to hear from you again. Hope you're doing well. Happy to work with you, although I admit my on wiki time these coming weeks will be limited. But drop the link here and I, or one of my WP:Talk Page Stalkers will be happy to help. Star Mississippi 23:42, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks, Star_Mississippi. I'll go ahead and post the page soon - it's almost done. Sullidav (talk) 21:18, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Great. I look forward to reading it when you do. Have a great day @Sullidav Star Mississippi 11:39, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Jawaker Article

Hello, you published an article about Stillfront, our mother company and we would like to publish one for jawaker, we had a page on wikipedia but it was removed for some reason, can you help with this? Jojoarticles (talk) 09:01, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Responded on their Talk to keep it central Star Mississippi 11:54, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Hellloooo? Anyone here??

Hello, Star Mississippi,

Is it just me or does this place seem very empty this week? I mean, we've had a shortage of editors and admins working AFD for a few months now but this week, things have been extremely quiet. It's like everyone is vacation without their phones or something. Folks I used to see on a daily basis are just gone! I hope this is temporary. I saw you relisted a discussion so I knew you were here. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:11, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

It's very quiet. Even my watchlist.

Personally here between two trips, happy to help as I can, although I'm about to log off for bed..

I know Cullen does it a lot, but I never have figured out how to edit from my phone. Caveat, I haven't tried too hard. Do you frequently admin from your phone? Star Mississippi 03:19, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I have deleted pages from my phone because I use Twinkle and you can check off boxes or use the Page tab with its drop down menu. But it's terrible for discussing things on a talk page because you can't cut and paste links and the like which I do a lot when discussing Wikipedia with other editors. So, I don't find it useful for responding to talk page queries unless it is only a text response. I now see that you have a banner saying you are on vacation! Sweet dreams! I'm on the other side of the country. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:09, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

No worries, I'm here. I just didn't take it off as I'm not as fully here as I would otherwise be, but there's probably a better template I should be using.

Yes, totally agree re: discussions. I tried once to make a note in an active discussion while I was offline and gave up quickly.

Hope you've had a great day. Star Mississippi 20:55, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Closing of Zalmai Mahmoud Ghazi AfD

You closed this AfD as a Redirect today, an action not suggested by any of the editors involved in the AfD discussion, and there seemed to me that there was not a consensus. As a result of the closing, all the references and source material are deleted; is there a way to recover it? I spent quite a while researching the article subject and adding sources to it, which I thought I would have time to add to the father's page if the consensus were leaning towards delete. But now I would have to re-do all that research I did. Please tell me there is an easy workaround. BBQboffin (talk) 04:24, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi! With the redirect, nothing is lost. You can access it here and use that to merge if a consensus develops. At the moment, there was more of one to delete the information, but a redirect helps the reader, which is why I created it. The issue with this, and why I didn't relist, is we have someone who presumably died in the pre internet era, so even without the language issue, sourcing is going to be an issue. Covering him within the article on his father is more useful than a page simply because he existed. Does that help? Star Mississippi 16:58, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, thanks very much! I thought everything was lost but I see I was mistaken and the sources are indeed preserved at the link you provided. I can use that to add the material to the father's article and so it looks like you made a wise decision as a closer on this. Cheers! BBQboffin (talk) 17:31, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

You're most welcome. Don't hesitate to ping me if you need anything else. Have a great day. Star Mississippi 17:47, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Jason Rhoades

Hi Star Mississippi. Thanks for you first edits on the Jason Rhoades article! I wanted to gently remind you about the rest of the edit request. I would appreciate it greatly if you could take a look at the remainder of the edits, found at Talk:Jason Rhoades#Intro, heading name, and posthumous reception, and implement whenever it is most convenient for you. Thanks so much! Stewart for HW (talk) 17:25, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the reminder @Stewart for HW and apologies for forgetting. Looking into this right now and will leave any further comment on Talk if I have questions, etc. Star Mississippi 14:34, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi again Star Mississippi. Since your last helpful edit on the Jason Rhoades page I have added another edit request. I pinged you from Talk:Jason_Rhoades#Artistic_philosophy_and_Selected_posthumous_exhibitions, but since you did not respond, I am gently reminding you now. Thanks so much if you can take the time to look at my request and see if you can implement. All the best, Stewart for HW (talk) 18:32, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi! THanks for your note and sorry for the delay, I was offline for a few weeks. I'll look into it this week as I dig out. Star Mississippi 12:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest palaces

Regarding your closing statement at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest palaces. Please have a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BFDIFan707. The new AfD is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest palaces (2nd nomination). Sometimes I feel like a cyber-detective! Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for flagging and @Bbb23 for handling while I was offline. Wonder what the obsession is! Star Mississippi 23:24, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Paul The Trombonist

Could I please see this deleted article. Davidgoodheart (talk) 16:40, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Please ask @Spartaz as they were the deleting administrator. I simply relisted the AfD. You're asking for that and Murder of Louise Smith which don't appear to be related, nor have I edited the latter so you might need to provide Spartaz and @Liz, respectively, more context. Star Mississippi 17:44, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh, Paul The Trombonist, the deletion discussion that won't die. These kinds of queries are part of the process of closing AFDs. I haven't heard from this editor yet but I'll look at the AFD I was involved with so I can respond if they come to my User talk page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:11, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Gone fishin'

Going to be offline for a couple of weeks from this afternoon (all good). I think the disruption that led to #Thanks is all resolved but any admin TPS are welcome to protect if needed/whack a sock gets old. Similarly, if consensus/an unblock request, etc. renders any other recent blocks or admin actions moot, please unblock without waiting for me. I'm going to live in a pollyanna world where all conduct improves and no one needs a longer block ;-) See you when I get back. Star Mississippi 16:34, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Query

Hello, Star Mississippi,

Oh, drat, it looks like I just missed you. Oh, well, I'll still post my message. Since you blocked what might be the sockmaster, I thought I'd let you know about my filing of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RuddyKurniawan11 because I thought you might be more familiar with their editing behavior than I am. I don't see any suspicions about sockpuppetry in their block notice but they might have returned to rescue several of their articles from Draft space.

If you are going on vacation, well, enjoy yourself! Have fun! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:08, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Glad this was resolved. Even if I'd been online, it was unfortunately too far back to recall the specifics. And thank you @Liz. I was on vacation and it was lovely. And to your one above, yeah. He's certainly of broad interest. Sadly not in RS it seems Star Mississippi 12:34, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Raaka Chocolate

Hello, Star Mississippi. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Raaka Chocolate, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 22:01, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:African American hotels and boarding houses

This is another interesting and important subject.

I haven't gotten very far on Draft:James Edgar Lee and Draft:Fred Jones (Mississippi politician) but they also warrant inclusion. I note them here in case you or any of your page watchers were interested. Take care. Thanks for your many good works and help!!! FloridaArmy (talk) 02:35, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

• Draft:Benjamin Franklin Liddon is another Mississippi subject I've submitted. FloridaArmy (talk) 11:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you! Apologies for the delay as I was offline. I'll look into these as soon as I can. Star Mississippi 12:35, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Sonic the Hedgehog (film series)

This topic is still too soon, because there are only two films that have been released, and a third in production. So the redirect can stay salted. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:46, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the update @Robert McClenon. Should you or another AfC reviewer need something down the road, just ping me or reverse it if/when it no longer is needed. Star Mississippi 20:21, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't expect to need anything in the near future unless the ultras become disruptive and a partial block may be required, and we would rather it not come to that. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:48, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, I got tired of whack a mole and that's why I protected the redirect. They're exhausting. Star Mississippi 21:11, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:9th Avenue Saloon

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If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 02:02, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:CT55555 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate Star_Mississippi to be Editor of the Week. After the editor Possibly died, Star Mississippi organized efforts to complete all of Possibly's drafts. Star is a regular contributor at articles for deletion, both in terms of contributing and making difficult closes. Star is also active at Deletion Review. Always kind, humble and open minded to alternative opinions, Star works on articles about artists, especially women artists, and museums and has created over 300 articles! The project benefits from Star's kindness, work, and collaborative spirit. I appreciate them. A sensible and dedicated editor and admin that's doing a great job. This nomination was seconded by User:Spicy and User:Novem Linguae

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Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7 ☎ 12:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)