theunitofcaring

Portrait of EAs I know

su3su2u1

Time spent in 2013 arguing about the most effective way to donate to charity- several hundred hours. 

Money donated in 2013- $200 

taymonbeal

And what sample size are you using to draw this generalization

su3su2u1

Just a few.  

But I note from googling for surveys that the median charitable donation for an EA in the Less Wrong survey was 0.  

And here is the big EA survey: http://effectivealtruismhub.com/sites/effectivealtruismhub.com/files/survey/2014/results-and-analysis.pdf 

Donting $200 seems to put you in the top 60% of EAs, so my friends who identify as EAs don’t seem far from the norm (they seem to fit demographically as well). 

bgaesop

EA is a joke

theunitofcaring

I’m honestly really disgusted with this post.

I know a lot of students in EA. Since I run a student EA club. A lot of them are currently in debt and skipping meals and pirating textbooks to avoid going further into debt. Some of them have parents paying their tuition and a trust fund to cover law school. And some of us are in between. Some of us give several thousand dollars every year without blinking. Some of us give ten bucks. Some people can’t give at all right now. All of us spend lots of time talking about effective charities to donate to, researching causes that are important to us, and writing up more accessible analysis of EA-related issues.

When you see “most EAs didn’t donate last year” and conclude “EA is worthless/a joke”, I see it and conclude “people who aren’t in a financial position to donate can still contribute valuable stuff to the movement and are still welcome in it.”

Which is kind of fucking necessary, if we don’t want to be a classist-as-hell movement.

I think that most people with a stable income should give 10% of it, that people earning above the U.S. median salary should give a lot more than that, and that rich people should be giving away more than half of what they earn. If someone is rich and giving away $200, then I think they’re a lousy EA. But if someone is an EA and they’re giving away less than $200, I think it’s a really big mistake to assume that they’re rich.

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slatestarscratchpad

Just to provide a data point: I discovered EA I think when I was in medical school. I didn’t donate more than a tiny amount of money during that period because I didn’t have more than a tiny amount of money during that period. I did write a lot of stuff about it including an introduction that’s gotten featured in some books.

Two years ago I got a paying residency, and since then I’ve been donating 10% of my salary, which works out to about $5,000 a year.

In two years I’ll graduate residency, start making doctor money, and then I hope to be able to donate maybe eventually as much as $25,000 - $50,000 per year.

But if you’d caught me five years ago, I would have been one of those people who wrote a lot about it and was very excited about it but put down $0 in donations on the survey.