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      [–]gwern 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      Don't worry! Sheep Support told the users that...

      the czech is in the mail.

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          [–]throwme1121[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          This needs a lot more love

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          RIP

          [–]depressme -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

          Czech yo self.

          [–]walletadvisors -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Bravo good sir

          [–]stashbelt 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          that's some funny stuff right there.

          Don't get fooled again!

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          [–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

          I nearly fell of my chair. A+++ will read comment again

          [–]throwme1121[S] 25 points26 points  (16 children)

          They are taking the money RIGHT NOW.

          Here is one of the address involved in the movement of the money:

          https://blockchain.info/address/1EiVHZnDVjFH6Tic1YmWUSfYmVUnUZdnMU

          [–]DPRSLAVE 18 points19 points  (3 children)

          They scammed 42,384,797 $ so far...

          [–]GarrisRago 24 points25 points  (1 child)

          I owe you an apology DPRSLAVE, In another thread I countered you saying sheep is scamming and criticised your thinking. Looking at this thread I realise you were right, and I was wrong so, I am sorry.

          [–]DPRSLAVE 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          don't be sorry. just inform people not to deposit any more money on sheep. It makes me sad to see all those people loosing their btc there

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          And just think of how many millions they'll get from people making deposits in the next few days!

          lol this isn't breaking bad, real criminals would take 42 million and run

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            [–]throwme1121[S] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

            Look up your Sheep deposit addresses on Blockchain. Follow any outgoing money. It's not a tumbler. It's a mass exodus of BTC from Sheep addresses to external holding wallets.

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              [–]RosyPalm 0 points1 point  (2 children)

              The problem with that is since you know the address the BTC is in now, and you'd know it's going back in to SMP, you can follow it and map the tumbler addresses.

              They would have been better off just leaving it alone and tumble it on the way out.

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                [–]RosyPalm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Well all things are possible I suppose, but I don't think those coins are ever coming back.

                [–]gwern 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                So what are we looking at here with this 1Ei address? Is the "total received: 39,643.66643413 BTC" just the total turnover of Sheep, all deposits ever made to it, and the actual theft the sum of all the 11/29 transactions away from 1Ei?

                [–]DPRSLAVE 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                no the total received is the total scammed money. they probably routed the money through that address to later send it to some mixing service or tumbler. but it is all stolen money. they just created this address the moment they planned on the scam. first transaction was on 2013-11-08.

                [–]gwern 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                first transaction was on 2013-11-08.

                Ah. Yeah, ok. So this was probably for moving the Sheep funds out. I'm guessing that some amount of it is the Sheep commissions, but wildly guessing, no more than half.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                God dammit

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                .

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                  [–]DPRSLAVE 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                  if anyone was able to withdraw, post it there AND MOST IMPORTANTLY: SIGN YOUR POST WITH YOUR PUBLIC PGP KEY.

                  I think this withdrawal update topic is just part of the scam and fake

                  [–]reaperx2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  The forums are down now. Looks like they are trying to implement a spam filter. The main site is up though.

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                    [–]biggernugs 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                    Cue the obvious sheep led to the slaughter pun

                    [–]GarrisRago 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                    shit those are some ridiculous prices. Is it a known fact that these vendors are involved in sheep administration?

                    [–]DPRSLAVE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    well at least one vendor had the exact same username like he had in sheep support staff

                    [–]iShootDope_AmA 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                    Man, I've been saying they were scamming for days. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out this shit.

                    Not letting people access their money for 1 week+ = scam. No two ways about it.

                    [–]NiggaWantNiggaSteal 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                    They called it fucking sheep marketplace.

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                      [–]NiggaWantNiggaSteal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Yeah the admin posted under the account the shepherd. He really made a joke out of it.

                      [–]throwme1121[S] 13 points14 points  (8 children)

                      PREMIUMGOODS AND CTRLALTWEED PULLED THEIR LISTINGS.

                      If that is not admission of guilt right there, I don't know what is.

                      Game over.

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                        [–]Intounder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        He's on SR2 as far as I'm aware. A lot of vendors are gtfo of dodge.

                        [–]MyNameIsOP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Cash out and run time.

                        [–]pimpass -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                        Ganja dealers, they should be scared the shit out with the idea of the fucking BTC withdraw shit and losing all their money and stuff. These 2 are probably just dealers anyway and can be scamers as far as i know. My advice to you, intelligent people, don't sell or buy, market is now on hold until further notice. Keep your ganja in stock, you might need it to come back up from the ashes. Shit man, this shit is so fucked up - but remember jah is with us and the seeds will always grow!

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                            [–]twigburst 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                            I'm amazed that anyone continued vending after they pulled withdraws out without any notice to implement a fucking "tumbler". So many red flags. I don't know why this site got so big when BMR was obviously so much safer and run by someone that really does give a fuck (he could have ran a long time ago).

                            [–]KapayaMaryam 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                            Proof? Sources?

                            [–]TMPSchultz 3 points4 points  (5 children)

                            -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
                            Hash: SHA512
                            
                            Hi,
                            
                            Our marketplace is made to prevent this from ever happening. No one party controls the bitcoins at
                            The Marketplace as we utilise native Bitcoin Multisig Escrow wallets for all transactions. We only
                            have a few vendors right now but we encourage all vendors and customers to have a look at our market 
                            place.
                            
                            We feel sorry for everyone that has lost money through this and we have removed our sign up bond and 
                            lowered our fees to 1% for vendors to help get them back on their feet.
                            
                            Reddit: http://reddit.com/r/themarketplace
                            URL: http://themarketplace.i2p
                            
                            Thanks,
                            TMPSchultz
                            -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
                            Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (Darwin)
                            Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org
                            
                            iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJSmVlzAAoJEBLtEWOvmHDdFCcIAKvOE7hgob2QBq0KNc8DfWYH
                            lTl3lVB3EsoTuZJEJLAUtA7zbvCoXnxF+MW65ZEVMA2axizAv6hcBMYWeoy/qOdI
                            PYyEbuSmrifjUaAhEojn2jHKzjDnwVo0NhvhUJAYAGHJy4CULl7vxbYmDXRTNJPj
                            L4+JNxrboq/6yA/hWL7KnoxuCv9ybl3huUdNiMGgTRBBWZjjDUzY/P09Z94NH8Wp
                            GzlxnzuTbfU+YigekAXY74tzdctjN/RUB2xzyBR7ej6GkOQJ2EzeVRVn9Yc3cjEE
                            DwEeB7MR3Whmhk7sHvf4kEd3Pv/Ry6DMxQeWjHUrA8zMbifXMgeQ1uGX3Xjg43M=
                            =7sZi
                            -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
                            

                            [–]davvblack -1 points0 points  (4 children)

                            So if this wasn't possible, what happened?

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                              [–]davvblack 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                              I'm just not familiar with what 'sheep' is vs 'the market place'. I didn't even realize the latter was a proper noun, since he introduced it as "Our marketplace"

                              [–]bowshockhorizon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              "our marketplace" refers to "TMPSchultz's" marketplace, "The Marketplace". It's decentralized and accessible through the i2p network. Decentralized marketplaces are the way forward. Look what it did for music and video sharing. If the users carry the network, there is no central server to be taken down, no one relying on scammers or people with embarrassing op.sec. blunders to keep them safe. It might be wise to watch their sub and start learning to i2p protocol.

                              [–]g0_west 12 points13 points  (3 children)

                              I really appreciate all you guys who jumped into SMP to test the waters out for the rest of us.

                              [–]sriyegna 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              Don't know why you were downvoted. This is my first attempt at sheep marketplace and I just transferred $100 into BTC yesterday. As a Canadian... it's not the easiest to do. Was about to transfer my money in when I saw this thread.

                              It's unfortunate that many others lost both money and product but I thank them for warning us about it.

                              [–]BabyLizard 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              i'm one of the lucky ones. i've made a few successful orders on smp but always bounced my btc back to my wallet...

                              [–]xardan11 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                              I made a deposit of 0.37 btc (all that i have) saturday 30 morning, non stopped by the site ( scammed from thursday 21, now I know). if you want appreciate to me really...this is the right way 1Ek5dezLBtPi3ukFigrZ1tmQvRd5ae2UQd Thanks!

                              [–]superflydutch 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                              Just look at www.sheepmarketscam.com they have all the info in one place. updated daily.

                              [–]Scimitar1 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                              Nobody gives a fuck about your Pandora

                              [–]volvoit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Yeah, just almost every vendor migrated to pandora, nothing serious really, 10x more listings overnight, but nobody care ;-) ...

                              [–]retarsql 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Yeah, that is sick...

                              [–]retarsql 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              F**K IT !

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                                [–]NecroSyphilis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                arguably they are doing the smart thing, who the hell wouldn't run with 43 mil sitting there.

                                [–]gro55man 2 points3 points  (12 children)

                                Ah man... there goes that 18 bucks...

                                [–]eminem56 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                                I lost $28. That was my whole life savings.

                                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

                                You're lucky. I lost about $70 /:

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                                  [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (6 children)

                                  There was a vendor on the forums who said that if SMP is scamming, he will be out $40,000 and that he lost $30,000 when SR went down. I couldn't imagine losing $70,000 in 2 months. It's funny. The scammers may kill off this industry before the FEDs do.

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                                    [–]s7w7 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                                    That's the part that sucks. Even worse than people losing money is the fact that there won't be anyone left to trust before long.

                                    [–]deluser 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                                    Not to be a dick but if you trust drug dealers and drug addicts you're doing something wrong. $45 million and counting, I wouldn't trust my own mother not to rip me off for that kind of money.

                                    [–]s7w7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                    No shit, dude. ha.

                                    No one could be trusted entirely with that, but from the outside, DPR seemed like he honestly believed the kind of politics that promoted an anonymous libertarian utopia drug market.

                                    That being said, there have to be people who can be trusted to be happy only making a few million a month/year, rather than running off with 40, right?

                                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    I would be super Happy "only" making a few million. Y'all could trust me! Lol

                                    [–]Justus222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    That's true man. It's the nature of the game. Add in the other factors.....

                                    [–]APlaidZebra 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                    $400

                                    [–]aLcSiDd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                    Although, it doesn't look the best, this is in no way, proof.

                                    [–]supersadtrueprivacy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                    They named it SHEEP marketplace. You had to know this was coming, no?

                                    [–]varikonniemi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                    How easy would it be if these substances were found in the store? Currently only criminal scammers enjoy lucky days, and fair good users are abused.

                                    [–]Dabinthetoro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                    I have a buyer acct that says I can withdraw in 0h. Is anyone else getting this?

                                    [–]paregoric_kid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                    If I wasn't so angry at getting ripped off from a vendor then I'd be super pissed that I was getting ripped off from the site itself!

                                    [–]Seattles-Best 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                    SeattlesBest premium weed outlet here... Boy we got hit hard with what was in escrow, but we want to add people to our private client list. Our feedback speaks for itself:

                                    http://sheep5u64fi457aw.onion/account/profile/c0e70c72b2961f5e9076cda061f36535

                                    We are sick and tired of having our money stolen from us by thieving marketplaces. If you are interested in our service (our feedback speaks for itself), then message us on sheep with your email info and we will add you to our private client list.

                                    Thanks! S~B

                                    [–]lism 1 point2 points  (15 children)

                                    Wouldn't they make more money from people using the site in the long run than they would from stealing everything all at once? I mean, if I managed to run a marketplace that was completely anonymous so I couldn't get caught (as long as I wasn't a dick about it) that I could potentially make millions from, I'd carry on as is.

                                    [–]zulwild 7 points8 points  (3 children)

                                    What's to stop them from stealing everyone's BTC, then starting a new site under a different name doing the same thing?

                                    [–]DPRSLAVE 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                    nothing. their new site might already be running

                                    [–]Foxodi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    Being a new competitor against SR2.0 and BMR (among others) will be tough unless they have a major marketing campaign.

                                    [–]epicmtgplayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    There's absolutely nothing stopping them from running a couple sites, all doing legit business and occasionally pulling this move.

                                    [–]DPRSLAVE 5 points6 points  (9 children)

                                    they made 40 million $ just now by just taking everyones coins. what you want more? 40 million $ is more than enough. just think about it.

                                    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (6 children)

                                    And yet your logic elsewhere is that they're still running it because they can make more millions.

                                    I'm going to laugh at your logic when things go back to normal on Sheep. It will probably be something along the lines of "they realized that they'd been caught but that the users were so trusting they could scam again so they'll do it again in a month guys I'm telling you I'm telling you I'm telling you"

                                    [–]DPRSLAVE 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                    you really think things are going be normal again on sheep? you living on the moon or something?

                                    [–]throwme1121[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                                    There is now a less than 1% chance this is not a scam, if you actually look at the facts properly.

                                    [–]cryptographicfun -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

                                    Honestly, that number is idiotic. The wallet you are referring to has never had a final balance of over 2500BTC. It's got a heap of traffic, but its transaction record directly contradicts what you are saying.

                                    [–]DPRSLAVE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                    no it does not

                                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    Wouldn't they make more money from people using the site in the long run than they would from stealing everything all at once?

                                    Yeah but legal risk. I wouldn't steal people's money because its strongly against my morals. But if I didn't give a shit about that I'd have done exactly what SMP owners did.

                                    [–]MoodyMayhem 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                    Well we won't be terribly surprised if this ends up being a scam, which it definitely seems to be. Black Marketplace Reloaded is the only site we really trust at this point. After the incident where the owner had decided to shut down the site and painstakingly made sure that everyone was able to get their coin out, he's seemingly trustworthy to the end.

                                    [–]themethchef 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                    After SR shut down I wanted to switch to BMR but those loading times honestly killed me. Sheep was smooth, quick and easy. I haven't been on BMR in months but hopefully we'll be able to transition smoothly

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                                      [–]DPRSLAVE 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                      it means your money there is fucked

                                      [–]iShootDope_AmA 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                      Annnnnd, the forum is down. Hmm....

                                      [–]HashMaestro 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                      What I don't understand,

                                      If these wallets are, and realistically they are very easy to trace, surely we don't even need a manhunt?

                                      [–]mzackler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                      You can put it in something like bitcoinfog. Might be hard with that much, but yeah

                                      [–]Effayy 0 points1 point  (6 children)

                                      Just curious, and I know this may sound a bit out there but...

                                      ... What if Sheep Marketplace is actually a honeypot instead of a scam?

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                                        [–]Effayy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                                        Honeypots aren't run in perpetuity though. Just enough time to gather evidence on major suppliers and buyers.

                                        I haven't used the site (or SR etc) but how is address information gathered for deliveries? Stored on the site or only given to the dealer by external means?

                                        [–]theshoelessone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                        It's messaged to the vendor by the buyer. Most people (read: smart people) PGP encrypt this information for the very reason you described.

                                        Since buyers send this info through the site, the admins (or law enforcement, if the servers were seized) would be able to read their address if they didn't encrypt it specifically with the vendor's public key, ensuring that they are the only ones who can decrypt it.

                                        [–]USPShelpdesk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                        You think its a scam what if the website is no longer under previous control and a government entity has taken the reigns ???

                                        USPS run !

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                                          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children)

                                          Yes because a bunch of junkies and internet retards are going to accomplish what law enforcement can't and find the guys running this.

                                          [–]black_shadow_ -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

                                          So during the space race americans figured they couldn't take notes in space with a ball point pen, since gravity was nonexistent and the tiny ball wouldn't stay in its place, so they've spent roughly $6 million dollars on a pen that would work in space so they could take notes and whatnot... Russians just used a pencil, instead. There are people involved in this who would sweep Czech Republic until they find the people responsible for it. You think that these vendors aren't financed by big mafias? did you know the mexican cartel smuggles drugs into the US using a submarine? there are people involved in this way more powerful than LE. I promise you that if these Czechs pull this shit on some of them, there won't be an anonymous network nor a place in this world where they'd be safe. not even with 40 million dollars in their pockets.

                                          [–]themethchef 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                          This isn't true, the reason NASA didn't use a pencil was because in zero gravity situations, a broken pencil (wooden splinters, broken lead, etc.) floating around could wreak havoc on important systems

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                                            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                                            Pencils aren't good in space because the graphite can break off and float around. Graphite is a conductor of electricity. If a tiny bit of graphite got into the computers on a space vessel, it could really fuck things up.

                                            [–]vapeosaur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            This has nothing to do with NASA or pencils.

                                            [–]davvblack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            americans

                                            Specifically, a separate company not directly related to NASA that propagates some part of that legend as a marketing campaign for themselves.

                                            [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

                                            What is all of this about?

                                            [–]DPRSLAVE 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                            sheep does not let anyone withdraw their btc. it has been going on for over a week now. they are cashing out and closing the site.

                                            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            Holy shit. I was thinking a lot of it is just people freaking out, but now it's not looking good.

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                                              [–]Beendancing 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                                              Who has been withdrawing huge amounts of money? Who told you that?

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                                                [–]Beendancing 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                                I have watched them forums way too much over the 48 hours. And 'plenty' is a huge exageration. Only one i recal is heizenberg ... i have since found out he is Czech based ..

                                                [–]iDroppedMyMonocle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                                Heizenberg was a known selective scammer here and on Silkroad. He is so in on the scam :)

                                                [–]Intounder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                                                Not to do the internet hard man bollocks again, but surely these fuckers aren't invisible. I remember on the orignal SR a scammer had his name, address and Facebook put on there.

                                                Surely some "gifted child" could start looking for such info. Unless Sheep somehow how manage to fix everything that they have done. Which I have more of a chance to get sucked off by Lexi belle.

                                                Just having that personal info out there would give them one hell of scare. Heizenberg is one that would be a good person to look into first. :)

                                                [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                                                Ppl sell molly online!?!? Fuck yeah where do I go??

                                                [–]OptionalAccountant -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                                                Well I had .05 BTC and I went ahead and ordered the BHO that I had been wanting for some time. Hopefully he sends it and everything is OK.

                                                [–]orbmama -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

                                                couple of bitcoins help me very much)) 1GvTGNfS471qBVXUJwgBc1N3tosc5WEZd7