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[–]chromer123pure_happenstance 147 points148 points  (11 children)

I'd be very interested in continued updates. Keep a journal with you throughout the day, document every little thing. Your experiment is something many people here would like to see more of!

[–]tossed_hither[S] 83 points84 points  (10 children)

I will journey forth!

[–]g253 40 points41 points  (6 children)

Yes, please do and keep up the journal. Also, if you could, please try to keep the journal for like one more week once you've stopped. I think that would be useful as a counterpoint of sorts.
Thanks for sharing your experiment :-)

[–]tossed_hither[S] 26 points27 points  (4 children)

I can do that

[–]gushtunkinflupped 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Thanks for doing this.

There was an incredible report on the web somewhere from a woman who did computer work for films in a big city and decided to try microdosing lsd daily to see how it effected her. I can't seem to find it atm though.

But I know some programmers who have done this and they swear it greatly enhances their work.

[–]henrywalden 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Madeline, a tall, almost willowy, woman in her early thirties, lives in Manhattan. Her report fills in some of her different occupations. She is married and has a four-year-old child.

As the subway rumbles along toward downtown, my observation of the passengers around me is that they put utter poison into their bodies. A woman in a camel-colored suit and white gym shoes uses a plastic knife to spread cream cheese on a giant bagel, washing it all down with gulps of soda. A few others enjoy fast-food breakfasts; enough sandwiches and hash browns are withdrawn from steamy paper sacks to scent the entire car with fryer oil. I wonder for a moment about what these people would think about my peculiar breakfast ritual -- 20 micrograms of LSD chased a bit later by green juice made from juied cucumbers, sunflower sprouts, and pea greens.

I arrive at my temporary office where I'm on a seven-week contract editing film. The documentary I'm working on has a budget of nearly nine hundred thousand dollars and will air on the second best network. My job is to screen nearly fifty hours of historical footage and knit it together into a story arc. I snip the footage down to its most essential bits, add narration notes, and harves sound bites. I feel deeply connected to my work, focused and in the flow. I barely come up for air for the next five hours because I am so sincerely enjoying what I'm doing. I laugh aloud and occasionally cry at poignant moments. I love my work. Although I'm not hungry and don't feel in need of a beak, I known that it is healthy to tak one. Onc outside, the world is too bright, even with my sunglasses on. I have very large blue eyes and naturally large pupils, and anything above 10 micrograms of LSD makes them as big as saucers.

After a six-block walk, I feel hungry, and I sit my lunchbox and thermos on a ledge at my favorite park. I begin Chinese exercises and deep breathing. The movement feels wonderful, and I feel so healthy and connected to my body that I begin to tear up for a second and enjoy a little laugh that can only be described as a release of joy and gratitude. I plan a longer than average workday today and will skip the gym, so this stolen moment of movement and sunshine is essential. My lunch is a thermos of mild green tea and four small salads that I made a day earlier. One is seaweed with sesame seeds, another chickpeas, another quinoa, and the last is fruit with coconut and pecans. Exquisitely nourished, I head back to my office for another four-hour stretch.

Sub-doses of 10 to 20 micrograms allow me to increase my focus, open my heart, and achieve breakthrough results while remaining integrated within my routine. While a full dose equires that I carefully plan my surroundings, onn a sub-dose I am fully able to navigate all manner of logistics and social ineractions. I would venture to say that my wit, response time, and visual and mental acuity seem greater than normal on it. I utilize a sub-dose about six days each month and sometimes more often if I am engrossed in a project requiring extraordinary focus. This has been my practice for more than ten years, and it has facilitated my success working in mainstream and independent media, staff-level positions in government and publishing dozens of pieces journalistic work.

I am not saying that I wouldn't have done any of this without LSD, but I am saying that I wouldn't have done all of this without it. The practice of sub-dosing transforms my work from being work to being creative play.

I'm a naturally persuasive person able to enlist others in my vision but never more so than when I am enhanced by a sub-dose. Therefore, I find it essential to my work as a grant writer and coalition builder to open myself in this way. One of my standard responses to the question "How are you doing? from a colleague is to reply that I am doing "soaringly well." It really sums up what it feels like to perform my work while sub-dosing: it's somewhat like flying.

I had never heard of sub-dosing when I began doinng it. After a couple years of wonderful success with the practice, I met a friend of Terence McKenna's who, upon hearing about my practice, explained that he uses sub-doses too -- something he learned from McKenna. He explained that Albert Hofmann did the same thing, and that Mckenna told him that Hofmann believed that LSD sub-doses would hae gone on to be widely prescribed in much the same way as Ritalin, had it not been so harshly scheduled.

I played with big doses before I played with small ones. I experimented with 250 to 800 microgram doses and learned to surrender to their intensity. My experiences at these doses were profound, amazing, and fun, but ultimately, I couldn't bring too much back with me. I left super-high doses in the late nineties. Then I began to experiment with sub-doses. I don't drink alcohol because I find it a bit harsh and numbing, so I was looking for something to make me feel sparky and up at cocktail parties and networking events. I tried a few cups of coffee but I wasn't quite loose enough and I'd still get tired, so I bean trying small doses instead. I found that on sub-doses, I made more meaningful and lasting connections, and my own evolution seemed to accelerate, as if I were able to accomplish more living within the same span of time.

I wondered how sub-doses could be employed within my career and I began using them for bigger assignments and events. I also expanded my role within my own family during this time and became the one most often consulted. Following conversations with relatives and friends, they would report feeling truly seen. Within only a few months of discovering sub-doses, my skills as a listener and communicator had blossomed. Interestingly, a number of family members appointed me executor to their estates almost immediately after I began using sub-doses.

I find that 10 to 20 micrograms of LSD is both a stimulant and a calming agent at the same time. For me, the only challenge that remains with sub-doses is increased light sensitivity, which I mitigate by wearing sunglasses or dialing down the brightness of my computer screen. This minor inconvenience is certainly worth it to me, because when I'm enhanced, I feel more passionate. i feel more energized. I feel more focused and enlisted. I feel more.

I'm not completely comfortable with how little is known about the long-term effects of LSD and other drugs. I'm a healthy young woman, and I want to do only what is safe and smart for myself and my family, so I wish to know what th long-term effects of LSD use are. Albert Hofmann seemed perfectly sharp at 101 years old, and the friends I know who are twice my age and use LSD frequently are some of the most brilliant people I know. And I want the fear of criminalization removed from this field of research so that people like me will be willing to share their experiences openly and have their data quantified.

[–]gushtunkinflupped 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you fucking rock for finding this!!!! thank you!!!!!

[–]yourparentss 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's probably a segment from Fahdimans book "The psychedelic Explorers guide" ... he has established himself as the "LSD Microdose" guy lately. At least i remember reading about a film-woman in there....

[–]Avayl 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Great suggestion. I would also like to read about how you feel after this experiment.

[–]crackercider 24 points25 points  (1 child)

May want to cross post this to /r/nootropics since they're was some interest on this a few weeks ago.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

thanks for the heads up, x-posting now

[–]synesthesis 37 points38 points  (78 children)

I've been doing this for a few months now. Also have experience with microdosing shrooms throughout my first year university. I'm knowledgeable about pharmacology and neurobiology, currently an undergrad in Psychology.

AMA

[–]Etheri 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Do you microdose before tests?

Thoughts?

[–]synesthesis 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Microdosed before a midterm just yesterday. Went smoothly. It helped give momentum to my answers and removed self-doubt, so I was able to move through more questions and review them at the end.

[–]BabyExploder 12 points13 points  (13 children)

What were your dose size and frequency looking like on the shrooms? Are there particular species or varieties better suited to microdosing? What made you stop? How do shrooms and L microdoses compare? Any noticeable longterm effects?

Thanks, this area of experiential research is fascinating to me.

[–]synesthesis 22 points23 points  (12 children)

Shroom doses ~0.15g ground in a coffee grinder, filled 00 capsules. Used half for tea with the girl to visit the National Art Gallery, the rest for studies. Took them intermittently, one day on, one day off for several weeks in my freshman year of university.

As for varieties, I don't have enough experience to know. There are different concentrations of psilocybin in various mushroms and some contain serotonin, muscarine (adrenergic) and other things that could contribute. In essence, I'm not sure.

What made me stop? I ran out.

I preferred shrooms microdosing to L in a few ways, but I find L makes me more energetic and pro-social, whereas shrooms made me get really into whatever was going on, really enjoyed listening in class. Without them, I have a pretty fuck all attitude.

Long term, hard to say. Attitude changes toward school from imprinting maybe. I learned thought patterns that help me to this day. It's hard to explain, but I find myself more pro-life (I mean enthusiastic about life, not abortion related) than I used to be.

It's absolutely the most fascinating thing I have ever done. I also thought I'd never do drugs when I was back in highschool. Turns out it was the best thing that ever happened to me.

[–]DigitalMindShadow 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I find myself more pro-life

Just to clarify this statement: if I'm interpreting it correctly, your views on abortion haven't changed as a result of microdosing with psilocybin mushrooms, right? Did you mean to say something like that you find yourself to be more enthusiastic about the fact that life exists, and that you get to experience it? The term "pro-life" can be taken misleadingly.

Of course, if psychedelic micro-dosing did somehow change your views on abortion, that would be a fascinating result.

[–]synesthesis 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Oh no, I should have phrased that differently. But didn't know how.

I mean I'm more enthusiastic about opportunities, life in general, more ready to solve problems that may be causing me unease, less bothered by minor disturbances (I used to get distracted by things I can't fix).

Rephrasing my post right now.

Although doing psychedelics in general has allowed me to see why people are pro-life, I remain pro-choice like I've always been, just to clarify. haha

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Was weighing out your dosage difficult? Did you experiment to find a below-threshold dose? That seems like one of the challenges when planning to microdose with shrooms, because unlike LSD, shrooms don't have some kind of vague label of average potency. ...Do they?

[–]hugthetrees 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I've found shrooms have a more standard potency than LSD, unless you're buying LSD from SR or another very reliable source. Most LSD sold on the street is very inaccurately labeled and varies greatly in potency. However, shrooms don't vary as much in psilocybe content (no, there's no super-strain that's extra potent)

[–]Mindimension 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I might have to disagree with your last statement. Some shrooms are stronger then others and give you a different experience. Some are more visuals while others you tend to think more about stuff, etc... Some shrooms have more blue on them, and more golden flakes then other, etc... I have done many different strains and the one I recently have blew my mind. I donated some to quite a few people and I received similar feedback from everybody that these were the strongest they have ever had. My friend took less then 0.5g and she trip out pretty hard.

[–]catntree 8 points9 points  (18 children)

What are the effects of tolerance on micro dosing?

[–]synesthesis 8 points9 points  (17 children)

With a few days on, and one day off, the effects are always there and don't seem to go away. I think the amount is so minute that tolerance doesn't really have the chance to go up.

I do about 10-15ug per dose. Once in the morning.

[–]rem1313 2 points3 points  (12 children)

Did you really mean 10-15ug? Or 0.1-0.15g as you mentioned above? I'm assuming cubensis for simplicity of calculatoon

[–]synesthesis 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Oh I was referring to L in that post. In terms of psilo I couldn't be very accurate. They were basically shrooms I powdered up in a coffee grinder and stuffed into 00 capsules. Also unsure of the type, got them from a friend of a friend and he isn't the type to ask those questions. He thinks it's pedantic and enough that he got us shrooms. I figured sure, I guess you're right.

[–]Seishuu 2 points3 points  (3 children)

How would you go about dosing mushrooms?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

0.1-0.3g of cubensis has worked for me

[–]Seishuu 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I saw someone reporting an unpleasant/tiring crash when micro-dosing mushrooms. Have you experienced this?

If you have the time, can you elaborate on the effects you noticed and how a day would usually go for you whilst doing this experiment?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I only did it for 5 days or so (but plan on doing it again when I get my hands on some more shrooms) - I noticed a general elevation of mood. I'm pretty easy-going as it is, but also often bored and sometimes somewhat depressed. The microdoses of shrooms just made me slightly happier and content, I got along better with my girlfriend and other people aswell. I didn't really experience a crash, didn't have any trouble sleeping.. but this was during the summer where I had no schedule or responsibilities - so yeah. I also found a 0.2-0.4g dose of cubensis before consuming alcohol really elevated drinking to a more fun and enjoyable level - I usually get tired very fast while drinking and don't always feel social, but I tried this twice and it really made me more energetic and social and I really enjoyed myself. I did dose about 0.5-0.6 once and made myself sick - shroom dosages are weird sometimes and hard to measure correctly, but I felt anxious, very cold (vasoconstriction) and had an overall feeling of dread - basically all the negatives of a shroom trip/comeup without any actual tripping. also worth mentioning is that I weigh 65kg and also, cubensis potency can vary, people are different etc, so I think for a person interested in microdosing, they'd have to find out a good dosage for themselves, starting from 0.1g and going up until desired effect is felt. I didn't notice any tolerance. I have no scientific background and this is all just guessing, so take it with a grain of salt.

[–]Sherlockian_Holmes 8 points9 points  (14 children)

Does it help you study? If so, how? I am studying medicine, FTR.

[–]synesthesis 7 points8 points  (12 children)

I read through chapters like butter.

Normally I encounter some kind of resistance and have to read and reread passages to understand them. But on psychedelics the paragraphs just flow through me. It's really astounding. There's no way I would have gottent through last year had I not been dosing.

[–]Sherlockian_Holmes 7 points8 points  (11 children)

Were these chapters information heavy? Were your recollection of the information improved? Your understanding? What cognitive effects did you note, exactly? I have been considering doing some Syrian Rue dosing for its MAO-I / slightly psychedelic effects for same measures but have not gotten around to it yet. Sounds very interesting. Did you note mostly positive effects in terms of cognition from shrooms, or more so from LSD - did you ever test your memory using standardized testing such as cambridgebrainsciences.com to see if it had any effects on various cognitive parameters?

[–]Morphine_Jesus 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I second your post in calling for someone micro-dosing to do some memory trials whilst on a substance. Even just basic sequential number recall could possibly be a starting point, then maybe some kind of reading/retention test.

It'd be amazing if the microdose could improve focus and abstract reasoning and connections, without the overwhelming emotional , and sometimes informationally overstimulating effects of larger dosages. I would use it to study math.

[–]synesthesis 4 points5 points  (8 children)

I can't speak for recollection. To have read through them in time to take the test is a miracle on its own. They are moderately information heavy. Come to think of it, the reason I get stuck in texts is the abuse of metaphors and similies that detract from information, and on psychedelics I'm able to skip over these without any problems. When I'm not, I tend to try and connect them to the facts and think "huh, I must be missing soemething if people need metaphors to understand this". That, or their extra explanations confuse me into thinking I don't understand something I already understand. That said, it should be no surprise that the books I really enjoy reading are cut-and-dry fact based texts. Those really get me going, regardless of mental state.

On psychs my understanding becomes more conscious. I'm able to acknowledge facts and keep them in working memory long enough to make it to the next sentence/concept. This allows me to know whether the text is explaining something I already understand, and I can then realize what I undersand without the superfluous explanations. Thinking back, it reminds me of the feeling of being less bored with boring tasks. The books we read are boring because they take for ever to explain simple concepts. Psychedelics allow me to cope with this and utilize different methods to make it to the end without wanting to look for other rewards (like food or weed)

I found shrooms to be astoundingly perfect in terms of attending and being immersed in lectures. L is different and just makes me feel on top of things and keeps me attentive. That's why I used it for reading. I haven't tried psilo for texts yet because of the difficulty of getting my hands on it.

No, I haven't had the time yet to try a standardized test, though that's on the list. Maybe during reading week or the next wave (per se) of dosing I'll try that. Thanks for the link, by the way.

In case you're wondering about grades, they've never been better. I was a pretty bad student in highschool (50s, 60s) but now I score high 80s and 90s in university.

I'll have to look into Syrian Rue. I've heard of it mildly in the past but have yet to even do any research on it.

[–]Fractalyzed 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I'm able to acknowledge facts and keep them in working memory long enough to make it to the next sentence/concept.

This right here explains very well exactly what I think i might be struggling with when i read. Very well articulated; thank you.

I've experimented with Syrian Rue for completely different reasons altogether, but i never considered its effects ones beneficial for study. It's a bit sedating/relaxing, maybe even cloudy. The reduction in anxiety can be a poisitive factor in academics, however, considering sometimes its impatience and anxiousness to finish the mundane task.

May be with smaller doses it could be more effective. Rue is pretty strong and only a couple of grams can have a powerful MAO-I effect. It's extremely cheap and legal, which would make it a great option to have if it does have potential as a mild nootropic.

Also just wanted to throw this in there since the cambridgesciences stood out to you, you should look into the 'dual-n back' program as another tool for mental exercise or measuring cognitive performance.

[–]synesthesis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's interesting you say it has sedative effects. It seems like MAO-Is and serotonergic modulation can have both sympathetic and parasympathetic effects, varying with context-stimulus from person to person.

Psychedelic medication seems to act as a cognitive magnifier rather than an all-out stimulator or specific regulator.

From a quick delve into my understanding, things like LSD allow serotonergic cells to fire more easily (by this I mean they take less intercellular stimulus to pass the threshold needed to fire) and so would contribute to the serotonergic system's abilities (which is largely modulated by social interactions) to work as a consciously driven psychointegrator. Something usually reserved for dreaming and stressful situations.

This reductionist explanation in no way covers all the bases, but your post made me think of this and I should mention that I'm mostly just working through my understanding as we discuss here. I'm in the middle of a behavioral biology course so this is taking precedence in my thinking right now.

[–]synesthesis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely.

In short, I'm able to skip over distracting metaphors and similies my university loves so much in their textbooks. I'm able to hold onto facts and concepts long enough in working memory so that I can move onto the next idea. From that, I'm able to acknowledge my understanding and cognize it's meaning with just the right amount of attention (or dismissal) without drifting off. See my reply to Sherlockian_Holmes.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

how has it changed your interactions with the opposite sex? (or whatever sex you're in to) very very interested in a reply, thanks.

[–]synesthesis 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Actually it's quite positive. The days I spend with my girlfriend are absolutely stellar. When I wasn't microdosing, our relationship was stagnant and not really going anywhere (after 3.5 years) and now we go out for dinner and chat about this and that, have a great time and great sex.

As far as other women, I never cared to approach them (or anyone really). So not much has changed in that respect.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

that's great man!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's your dose and frequency for the shrooms?

[–]loveisallthereisTake a look, its in a book, reading rainbow 1 point2 points  (3 children)

/synesthesis, it would be great if you provided a somewhat thorough synopsis of how things have been going.

edit: duh, guess I should have kept reading. Thnx.

[–]synesthesis 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I would love to, but I'd have no clue what to say. I'm of the type that you have to kind of prod to get something out of me. Though I've been slowly putting together some academic work that hopefully will make its way to reddit in the near future.

[–]loveisallthereisTake a look, its in a book, reading rainbow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I guess the biggest part of this type of research or experiments would be to understand how helpful/harmful taking subtance such as this is to daily life, or periods of daily life.

[–]synesthesis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. But what I've studied is far too interesting to let this go and never try it. It takes a combination of wrecklessness and intense scientific inquiry. Both of which get me hard.

[–]thieflarfriend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely fascinating. Never would have thought to try this.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Thank you for doing this.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You're welcome

[–]th3r34p3r 6 points7 points  (1 child)

this is a great post. very interesting... I have seen a talk about it a long time ago... however I really cannot remember for the life of me who spoke about it (maybe it was dennis mckenna, but I am probably mistaken).. anyways, they were talking about using LSD and Mescalin in about 10-20ug doses as well and reported many of the same effects... Maybe it's time to start trying this as well. :D

EDIT: It was James Fadiman in the talk, not Dennis Mckenna. here is the talk for those of you that wish to see it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtL5fafpRKc

[–]synesthesis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I may have heard the same talk. I'll look for the source because I think that's what got me started too. It may be McKenna, though I'm unsure as well.

[–]Warfalcon 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Why didn't you divide the volume of the water bottle by 15 and measure that amount into a cup everyday, instead of half-assily guessing? I mean it's an experiment right? Step it up! But I digress, this is interesting to say the least. Keep us updated!

[–]tossed_hither[S] 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Mainly for stealth reasons. Its not a bad idea.

[–]Fractalyzed 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I think what would've been best (and can still be implemented) is to use a mL syringe to measure out dosage and ingest that way.

So at 150mcg in 20oz water (if 20oz was measured accurately) would be 7.5mcg per oz and there are 29.75 mL in an oz, thus .25mcg per mL, or final answer being 40mL for a 10mcg dose.

You can keep the syringe stashed if stealth is the issue. I think accuracy in dosage is very important in this particular experiment.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, I'd had this idea, but I've yet to get to a store and get a syringe.

[–]Warfalcon 3 points4 points  (2 children)

stealth reasons

A water bottle requires stealth? C'mon son!?!?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

in my head i pictured having 15 cups sitting there, i didn't read your comment carefully :D please excuse me :D

[–]Warfalcon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's quite alright.

[–]Donexodus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or just add 150ml of water, and measure out 10ml with a cough syrup cup every day :)

-scientist

[–]psycho_0023 5 points6 points  (26 children)

Does anyone think that this experiment would be worth attempting using 2CB instead? This has really sparked an interest in me.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't know anything about 2CB.

[–]Etheri 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I do not know. However, 2CB has been used as RC for MDMA at lower doses, due to having similar effects (not full psychedelic, body high, euphoria). You'll need to take even smaller doses I assume.

Also I'm not sure, but I know most classic psychedelics are removed from the body insanely fast. The majority of LSD in your body is gone before you're done peaking if i'm not mistaken. I don't think this is the case with amphetamines (Just a thought, I rarely find readworthy studies about 2CB =/)

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

2c-b is very amphetamine like at doses 5-10mg without the obvious downsides. More so than a microdose of LSD. Did this a couple of times in social settings, but imho it's nothing for daily use.

[–]catntree 1 point2 points  (7 children)

I would really like more research in this area. I wanna try this experiment, but only have 25i at the moment. Anyone have any thoughts on if that would work or be safe?

[–]psycho_0023 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Yeah that's my concern. I think that 25i has a bad wrap for vasoconstriction and neurotoxicity but idk if you'd get it with microdoses. As for 2CB, I've never heard reports of such things but that doesn't put it out of the realm of possibility.. research time!!!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

25i is a very linear drug in its dosing in almost all of its aspects, body load included (at least in my fairly extensive experience), so I doubt with a ~50-100ug dose of 25i you'd feel any body load at all.

As for the effects of microdosing, you would get very little (probably completely unnoticeable) visual change. I'd bet a slight boost in pattern recognition would be a general result, as well as a slight energy boost due to the stimulant nature of the drug.

So I think its best use might be for someone doing academic work, or any work directly involving numbers, patterns, etc.

I have 25i on hand so if anyone's interested in doing a micro-dosing experiment with it I am on board!

[–]catntree 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm interesting in trying it at micro doses. I have been for awhile. But I couldn't find anything on the subject.

I think you're probably about right on what the effects would be. And it would also probably effect thought processes. But hard telling how.

[–]Meow3r 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I might be interested in this. I have both 25i and 25c on hand, so this definitely might happen. :D

[–]sleadbetterz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I once took 0.6mg of 25i but completely forgot to brush my gums, after having the tab in for half an hour I took it out and binned it but I must've only absorbed a microdose. I didn't trip whatsoever, just felt slightly uncomfortable and I couldn't sleep as if I was on a normal dose.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

I started micro-dosing in high school. It was a way better study aid than adderall for me.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I apparently have ADD and have been prescribed Ritalin. You comment intrigues me. Could you give a rough comparison of the effects of the two?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I've been prescribed Ritalin before and it didn't do anything for me except an F1 speed heart rate, the equivalent of downing 3 redbulls and a massive crash afterwards. I self medicate with cannabis and I have 0 problems. I would love to try micro-dosing on LSD.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Wow. I wish cannabis was accessible where I am. If it's okay to probe further, what strains do you prefer when self-medicating? A pure Sativa like Durban Poison, a hybrid?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love dominant sativas but I usually end up buying some high quality mids in bulk, since I can't say no to amazing prices. If I had the money I would definitely try to find a pure sativa, since I don't remember trying one. Interestingly enough, the strain I normally get, is pretty well balanced in terms of THC/CBD's and would be nice if it was stronger. Good thing I collected quite a few seeds to grow my own later on.

[–]the8thbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not in an area where I have access to specific strains often, but I self-medicate in the same way, and I think I prefer more of a sativa. If I smoke too much I can get unproductive, and it can get hard to concentrate, but if I take the right dose it makes paying attention in class (and paying attention in general) so much easier. Mostly because it makes class seem much more interesting.

I also do higher level math in my free time, and find that some weed (in combination with a giant 6ft x 4ft white board I installed in my room, which I can pace in front of when trying to figure out a proof) significantly boosts the likelihood that I will make progress in whatever text I'm reading.

I'm curious about psychedelic microdosing, but I'm also worried about potential negative long-term effects.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get a little scatter brained on stimulants and can't sit still long enough to actually study anything. When I would take the smallest little bit of acid, so small wouldn't think you would be able to feel it's effects, I would feel immersed in whatever subject I was studying I was studying and definitely retained more of the information, and wouldn't have that I can't sit still feeling.

[–]Fractalyzed 9 points10 points  (4 children)

This is a great experiment considering LSD has tons of potentional as a nootropic.

I've tried similar experiments, albeit not as consistent.

One thing that stood out a bit to me is that the effects at the supposed dosage seem a bit strong, similar to times i've taken a quarter tab (about 25mcg)...

My main concern is tolerance build-up with taking it every day. Please make note of tolerance and if any is noticed, as the effects of LSD have been known to fade quickly after a couple of days of use; I'm not the sure the same applies with such small doses.

Another point of investigation to look into would be what dosage is considered a "small" or a nootropic one? Exactly how much would be needed to gain the most advantage, how little is 'too little', how much is 'too much', etc? I do think dosage effectiveness will also depend on the task and goal at hand, with lower doses being more beneficial for some tasks and higher ones for others. This should be saved for a separate experiment, however, as i think the consistent results rather are the focus.

As a point of reference, there was an article posted on Reddit here not too long ago about a group of scientist at a university that were using LSD before it was made illegal to help them problem solve, and what they described as a "small dose" was 100 micrograms, which i thought was rather high for being small. 100 mics is practically tripping for me.

Looking forward to every day of the daily log, paritcularly tolerance build-up. Thank you for doing this and taking note!

[–]Seishuu 4 points5 points  (1 child)

well, 100 mics IS tripping IMHO.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I will make sure to note any kind of change in tolerance. Also for the next experiment I plan on taking pulse/blood pressure/temperature because that might be useful to someone who knows more about the body than I do. I only had that idea this morning or I'd have done it starting day 1.

[–]beat_laboratory 10 points11 points  (1 child)

You're my hero

[–]tossed_hither[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't think i've ever been someone's hero before. Thanks :D

[–]m_y 7 points8 points  (9 children)

If only society more generally accepted this

[–]tossed_hither[S] 12 points13 points  (8 children)

Society never had a chance to accept it. It was outlawed before any real results could be fully developed; and then the War on Drugs made it a Faux Pas

[–]loopster70 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I think you may mean a fait accompli (an accomplished fact, i.e. a "done deal"). A faux pas is a social miscue or mistake.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

well yes, that would do nicely in that sentence. I'll need to add "fait accompli" to my vocabulary :D However, I did intend to mean that because of the anti-drug campaign society began its hatred toward drugs. maybe faux pas was not the best phrase to use here. Thanks for educating me :D

[–]lord_darciastill has not solved morality 2 points3 points  (0 children)

which is one reason your journal here is so valuable.

we aren't going on much data.

keep it up... for science!

[–]NapalmRDT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd say the older generation usually sees it as mauvais ton.

[–]oldtydygy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another trippy coincidence. I am reading the Explorer’s Guide now and had scheduled to start a micro-dosing regimen beginning tomorrow morning. I had planned to follow the every third day schedule, but may consider two on one off instead. I have m-dosed on two occasions in the last couple of months to test my general reaction and found it to be very similar to your descriptions above. In fact, I was a little surprised that I could detect such small doses and initially considered them placebo effects. As the first day progressed, I dismissed that belief. I will be keeping a journal as well, but never considered posting those logs. You, my friend, are an inspiration.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I would love to watch sc2 while on a microdose!

[–]tossed_hither[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dat GSL

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

[–]Seishuu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Link doesn't work.

EDIT : Now it does :)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Did you find that you were able to do your work with the same efficiency and accuracy?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

So far I'd have to say with superior efficiency, motivation, and accuracy. Or at least that's how it seems.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I don't think you'll be able to gauge accuracy until mistakes have time to reveal themselves. I hope you're right.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'd be inclined to agree with you.

[–]boomers-r-ur-friend 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Tried this yesterday. I found myself more social too, and I didn't have anywhere near as much caffeine as I usually do and still felt energetic. But also started my multivitamin again so could've been that for energy levels. Definitely trying again.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have been using multivitamins as well, but i was taking them daily before this started.

[–]Seishuu 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Multivitamins help with energy?

[–]Der_Aussenseiter 2 points3 points  (9 children)

How exactly would this be accomplished with tolerance? Would the user need to progressively take more over time?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's part of what I'll be finding out :)

[–]Fractalyzed 1 point2 points  (6 children)

That has been my immediate reaction whenever i think of this regime of supplementation.

However, i think because the dose is so small it might leave the possibility that there is no tolerance build-up.

If anything a good way to remove any doubt would be to take one or two days off a week, maybe 2 days on 1 day off or whatever works best.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

in the original article, Dr. Fadiman suggests a micro-dose once "every third day". I made the decision to do an everyday dose, partly because of my size, things tend to have less of an effect on me, and partly because I have more than I know what to do with laying around.

[–]loopster70 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm ready to help take care of that surplus... :-)

[–]smallteam 0 points1 point  (3 children)

On 'size'-appropriate dosing, if you don't mind saying, what is your height, weight, and gender?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

6'2", don't have a scale, Male.

[–]feignrmk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my experience, if you hit the dose right, you don't need to increase it. If the dose you take is large enough to have any real psychedelic effect, it's too large. At proper microdose levels you don't seem to build up much tolerance at all.

[–]anon_swag 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I micro-dosed LSD today (1/10 of some potent paper). It was my most productive day in a while, and i was very appreciative of natural beauty. 10/10 do reccommend.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have the same plan after reading that article... Divide 200ug blotter into 16 parts as well as I can and check if it gives any nootropic effects over the first half of October.

[–]sebwiers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is pretty much how I got through my senior year of high school (20 years ago) despite a diagnoses of depression, abusive family, and highly stressful class load. I started out doing large doses recreationally, and almost instantly realized (both from reading on the chemistry and experiencing the effects) that small doses might be effective as an anti-depresant.

I probably over did it (was taking maybe 50-100 every couple days) and cracked up after I got out of the house, needed quite a few years off to learn to relax, but I'm alive and some friends in similar situations are not.

Now I've found an SSRI that works well with my brain chemistry (none of the ones doctors back then were willing to prescribe for me did), don't really want to go back to that. Effects of he SSRI are similar and more predictable.

[–]Godimhigh 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You should have a twitter for this experiment. Would love to see it update throughout the day.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

https://twitter.com/LSDMicrodosing

just set it up, IDK if i'll actually use, but we'll see

[–]Godimhigh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

excellent man, thanks!

[–]DaVincitheReptile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know man, the more public you are about this experiment, the more likely CIA reptilians will come to visit you in the near future.

In all seriousness, I want updates. I am very interested in this method.

[–]digitalsmear 1 point2 points  (3 children)

traffic was horrible and I was driving rather aggressively

I have however noticed a tendency to be more apathetic and less aggressive in my driving.

So, which is it?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

"rather aggressive" IS less aggressive than I usually am :D

[–]digitalsmear 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Oh. So you're one of THOSE guys.

Sounds like you need more LSD... ;)

[–]tossed_hither[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, I am, I'm sorry. :D

[–]hemetae 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hmmm, not that I have the ability to do this, but it makes me wonder about micro-dosing Ayahuasca.

Just in general, I like the idea of using psychedelics in a way similar to nootropics. Consistent, minute doses of these elements seems an interesting test. Especially over a year or so. Pure MDMA might be another interesting test.

Anyway, thanks for posting & making this info available!

[–]vtjohnhurt 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you structured your experiment a little differently you might be able to disentangle the placebo effect from the LSD effect. Maybe get a partner to send you your dose in the mail. Sometimes send a placebo and sometimes send the real thing. Do the experiment a few times and then compare your logs.

My guess would be that the placebo and the microdosed real thing would both yield a measure of "cosmic awareness".

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, this is a good idea. I'm however not going to change plans in the middle of execution. I doubt this 15 day period will be the only time I microdose, so perhaps next time. I have had many suggestions.

[–]Kenotai 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Does this seem like something "everybody" should do? Where of course "everyone" means people not on medication that interferes with LSD.

Do you think this might help people with depression? ADHD? Autism?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am not really qualified to answer these questions. What I will say, is that if you are willing and have the means, you should try for yourself and come to your own conclusions.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It helps with autism a whole lot. ADHD can go both ways. Depression is kind of a neutral. It can work as an antidepressant, but LSD doesn't cure depression like Ketamine does.

[–]Santabot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've done this before and used between 20-50ug for week stretches during midterms and finals weeks when cramming many subjects at one time necessitated a mind-opener. Was a very positive experience and have suggested to others, obviously they perceive this as crazy or at best something they would not attempt.

[–]Final-HeroThree Eyes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't expect any of you to believe me, but the following happened to me during a game of pool, where I was under the influence of lsd. I was playing the game with close friends, and although I was the only one under the influence, they were smoking and drinking and overall I felt comfortable around them. I broke, and went on to sink every single other ball and won the game. I've never played pool that well before in my life.

tl;dr LSD definitely can enhance abilities in a random fashion and it's sad we still write it off as some dangerous narcotic.

[–]KCP100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have also been testing this as use as a nootropic. I have not been as formal as you, but when I take 1/8th-1/6th of a tab in the morning I usually have a great day.

[–]chemicalvelma 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for doing this! I'm so excited to see how the rest of your experiment goes!

[–]TheCrazedChemist 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Question: could one have divided up the doses simply by carefully and precisely cutting up the blotter, or is there no feasible way to do that effectively?

[–]boomers-r-ur-friend 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The only problem with this is if the blotter isn't covered consistently. A drop in the middle would mean the outsides have less than the inner parts.

[–]lord_darciastill has not solved morality 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So glad this is going according to plan for you- great journalism so far!

Keep it up- I'll stay tuned!

[–]memoryrig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've taken around 20-30ug from time to time and have experienced the same things. No noticeable visual effects, however I seem to be a lot more cheerful and empathic, and I want to do things that are genuinely interesting and new to me. Usually I prefer to waste time on the internet, but on a microdose it just seems boring, and I'd rather go read a book, exercise, or fool around with programming.

Another thing I've noticed is that even on sober days I tend to notice things at the edges of my vision more. It's a feeling that usually takes me by surprise.

The only downside is that I have this weird energetic feeling in my chest and shoulders. It's not bad or painful, but I'd describe it as a very slight cross between anxious and ticklish. I have to say though, I've never went outside while on acid, I've got some social anxiety that I'm trying to work through, but maybe a microdose would help me understand things more on that front.

[–]BearAttack117 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This almost inspires me to try it. It seems like not much can go wrong. I've been hesitant about lsd but trying a microdose sounds pretty harmless

[–]lord_darciastill has not solved morality 1 point2 points  (6 children)

TIL continued LSD microdosing causes death of user.

Oh well. RIP in peace, /u/tossed_hither. Or come back from the afterlife and tell us more about microdosing ;P

[–]ebrake 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I read the same article that you did and decided to try it out for myself. Unable to find a LSD source that could be accurately dosed for this experiment I settled for trying it with very low doses of mushrooms for a week.

Day 1, consumed 1/16th gram: Nothing to note whatsoever, completely normal day in every way.

Day 2, 1/8th gram: Noticed that I was in a great mood all day, very creative at work, lights much more vivid than normal and had to wear sunglasses in the sun. After 3pm noticed effects wearing off, fatigue begin to hit, by 5pm when I went home I was moody and irritable. Had trouble getting to sleep in the evening, up late just trolling around the internet for no reason.

Day 3, 1/8th gram: Same as day two but the afternoon was much less tiring. General mood around the workplace was positive, much easier to deal with co-workers that I normally find annoying. Still had afternoon crash but wasnt moody like the day before. Overall had a good mental state for the rest of the day. Restless at bed time up late again.

Day 4 1/8th gram: Same as previous days, things were great until about 2pm. At 3pm redosed with another 1/8th gram felt better by 4pm. Went home in a great mood had an amazing evening hanging out with my family. Took a melatonin at bedtime slept like a baby.

Days 5-7 repeated the 1/8th gram at breakfast with a redose after lunch. All good days but continued issues getting to sleep in the evenings.

After the 7th day I stopped the experiment because of the interruptions to my sleep cycle. Overall it was a pretty good experience and I now occasionally micro dose on select occasions where I need to be more social and creative. I mostly use it as a one off thing perhaps twice a month now and do not do it multiple days in a row.

[–]synesthesis 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Your problem is redosing. L's second phase is basically an amphetamine and it would definitely disrupt your sleep cycle.

Once in the morning, within a few hours of getting up. No more.

[–]ebrake 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I think overall Psilocybin just doesn't work as well as LSD in such small doses. Like I said I still use it from time to time just for a little creative perk but it definitely wasn't as positive as the daily reports from people using LSD in the same way.

[–]synesthesis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That wouldn't surprise me. I'm somewhat ADD and need the slight adrenaline from L that psilocybin doesn't give.

Different experience, though. Part of me prefers shrooms.

edit: sorry, thought you initially were talking about L, which is why I thought it was getting you into an amphetamine phase.

Psilocybin acts directly on receptors that control your circadian rhythms, so that makes absolute sense.

[–]Elmder 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So LSD is Soma?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're referring to Huxley, so far, yes. I was actually reading BNW last night :D

[–]TheSpaceFish 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks for doing this!

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you're welcome

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I'm not very experienced with LSD. How did you pupils look at that dosage? Any change that might "give away" that you're on LSD?

[–]Fractalyzed 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Most likely not.

You're not ON acid at this point, far from tripping. That's such a small dose that an unknowning person would think they're just feeling great that day, or notice something is maybe a tiny bit off from that fruit juice they drank earlier.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha, thanks for the response.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't notice any change, but I've not done any pupil reaction tests (like a police office might do).

[–]synesthesis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely not. If you took too much, you might look like you're having a good day, if anything.

[–]tearinitdown 0 points1 point  (6 children)

What is your line of work if you don't mind me asking. Just want a general sense of your responsibilities for comparison.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

[–]mrhappyoz 1 point2 points  (4 children)

In that case, maybe you could try creating some vbs scripts around automating system/user management and see what you come up with? :)

[–]tossed_hither[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'll come up with something useful in powershell.. but vbs? what is this the 90's? :D

[–]mrhappyoz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Today's powershell script:

Get-Stuffed You-Funny-Bastard

:)

Offtopic, have you ever read BOFH?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No, I had to google it to know what it is. I'll need to start. :D

[–]mrhappyoz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's the vintage/funniest stuff.. and here's the last 13 years..

These have gotten me through some darker days. :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sounds exciting!

Mind me asking what is it that you do for a living? I've tried microdosing on shrooms a few years ago and it seemed to help on "creative" problem solving aspects, but I quit after a project meeting went a bit hostile and I felt I couldn't quite cope with it in a very good way.

[–]simple_human-*- 0 points1 point  (2 children)

i would like to try this but take a ten strip and turn it into a sheet, what solution would work best for this you think?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Not sure if this will work, I'm not a chemist, so please do at your own risk.

LSD is soluble in water, so get some distilled (or at a minimum chlorine free) water, soak your strip in it for a few hours, maybe 8 mix very well.

After the LSD is dissolved in the water, spread the water out over a large surface area (a sauce pan, the lid of one of those plastic storage containers, something like that) and place your larger sheet in the water, then evaporate the water (with a fan or something that is not heated) until there is nothing but paper left. You'll likely have residue on the sides so finding a container that near perfectly fits your water would be ideal.

maybe someone with some experience will correct me.

[–]simple_human-*- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is what i had in mind, just didnt know if water should be the solution, im just hoping not to have too much residue, otherwise ill try op's method and see how that works.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Should you be subjected to a piss test, do you think you would you score a negative? After all, the amounts you are ingesting are so minute.

[–]chewtality 2 points3 points  (2 children)

UAs don't test for LSD or really any psychedelic. They are out of your system way too fast and very hard and expensive to test for.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure if Urinary Analysis companies even look for LSD. But I'm not at risk for a UA, though I could go buy one for science.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

is "mcg" the proper suffix for micrograms? or "ug" ?

[–]Seishuu 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The proper suffix would be the Greek letter mu, i.e. μg. In its absence "mcg" works just fine.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This is very interesting, so keep writing. Even if I am a bit skeptical, because I believe that what comes up must go down. I don't even drink coffee for that exact reason.

[–]Seishuu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coffee's delicious though. Nothing better than a beautiful cappuccino from a nice espresso machine in the mornings.

[–]raymondgaf 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is awesome. Keep up with the updates.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

will do

[–]Elisionist 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Really interesting man, I have more tabs than I know what to do with and I've been considering this for years.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

From where I am currently in my experiment I highly suggest it. But feel free to stay tuned and make a more informed decision.

[–]Elisionist 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Well I'm apprehensive because I've gone through phases where I'll take a full 2 hits or so daily or every other day, and it doesn't take long before my brain just feels like mush. My mind and body simply get exhausted and sick of the feeling, and I feel the need to return to sobriety.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yea, that is probably a bad idea for anyone, ever.

As the Buddhist's say, take the Middle Path.

Over doing anything will eventually kill you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

This is precisely what I wanted to express. And I know this is just my personal hang ups surfacing but, do you not think that dosing for 2 weeks straight is risky in any way?

[–]tossed_hither[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yes, there is some risk here, as there is in all things, but I made the conscious decision that the benefits (knowledge, and who knows what else) outweigh the risks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (28 children)

What is your body weight?

The known threshold dose of LSD is 20ug, which is above the 10 you initially dosed at.

[–]th3r34p3r 1 point2 points  (9 children)

You are right and wrong. read this for more info: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose1.shtml

but I will make it easy for you and quote directly from that link.

"Double-blind studies on 14 healthy subjects confirmed that LSD fails to elicit a physiological response in doses less than 20 mcg. Dramatic psychic symptoms, e.g. deviations from normal in body image, thought, and emotion, occurred only with dosages in excess of 20 mcg. However, careful observation and questioning revealed certain changes in affect and psychomotor activity with doses as low as 7 mcg. Classical schizophrenia-like symptoms first begin to appear when the dose exceeded 30 mcg."

Edit: To answer your question about it being a placebo effect, I do not think it is, as this is the effect reported from tossed_hither, and also in the few double blind studies there are. 10mcg seems to be a good amount to microdose with, 20 mcg is pushing it a little too much, imho. Either way, I just put a 130mcg dose into a bottle of clean water, and I will be ingesting for 10 days to see if I have any changes in attitude and problem solving. I will report up on it every few days! Let's see where this can take me! The last time I ingested any psychedelics (other than DMT) was about 2 years ago, so I should be able to notice the change in mood quite easily. I am 5'5", male and weigh about 120-130lbs (don't have a scale on me, but I weighed 125 last time I checked, so my weight should be around there.)

[–]tossed_hither[S] 0 points1 point  (17 children)

not more than 230, in 6'2", male, in decent shape.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well written! This is a solid case study.

[–]Seishuu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for doing this, great read! Keep us updated!

[–]Alethios 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really enjoying reading this. Might give it a shot sometime. Thank you

[–]willfriend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To science.

[–]p3ndulum 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Will you be updating this post? I've saved it and am hoping that I'll be able to come back and check it regularly. I'm really interested in your journey.

[–]tossed_hither[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

yes, every couple of days

[–]thieflarfriend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely fascinating. Please do report back.