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bevan

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Hi, I have recently started taking Coke on a more regular basis than before, and would like to educate myself on it so that I have my eyes open.

I have been in a lifestyle before which involved drinking huge quantities of Alchohol on a regular basis (managing a huge party-bar) ... and a little eduction on the subject of alcohol, a few core 'takeouts' helped me through it with little or no damaging effects.

I would like to similarly educate myself on Coke now.

Not a huge fan of "The Man's" advice, so seeking it out here.

I am wondering a few things ...

1. How much is too much? What are the warning signs that addiction is starting, and how do I recognize them?
2. Are there some best practices to guard against it?
3. When doing coke, are there some best practice things to do with it to minimize damage and unwanted effects?

Any insights into any of the above from those with some experience would be really well appreciated!

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Any substance becomes a problem when you are using it for everyday life, as apposed to on occasions, socially and making a "night" of it on the weekend etc.

DO NOT use it when ur bored......That is a surefire way to start an addiciton.

If you notice urself hiding the fact ur high from people around u that KNOW u do the drug, this is another sign.

At the same time, if ur finding urself high around people that dont have any idea you do said things, also cause for concern, you should be able to socialise and get out without it.

Basically stick to having it on your weekends, or if midweek, make sure its not a case of being bored infront of the TV or computer, and taking a hit to make it not so boring. Make a night of it, make it an occasion.

BE CAREFUL. Addiction is a slippery slope, and its only once ur in the heart of an addiction you are able to step back and realize how addicted you are, it happens without you realizing.

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Any substance becomes a problem when you are using it for everyday life, as apposed to on occasions, socially and making a "night" of it on the weekend etc.

DO NOT use it when ur bored......That is a surefire way to start an addiciton.

If you notice urself hiding the fact ur high from people around u that KNOW u do the drug, this is another sign.

At the same time, if ur finding urself high around people that dont have any idea you do said things, also cause for concern, you should be able to socialise and get out without it.

Basically stick to having it on your weekends, or if midweek, make sure its not a case of being bored infront of the TV or computer, and taking a hit to make it not so boring. Make a night of it, make it an occasion.

BE CAREFUL. Addiction is a slippery slope, and its only once ur in the heart of an addiction you are able to step back and realize how addicted you are, it happens without you realizing.

All of the above.

I've been addicted to coke for about 4 years. Last time was now 2 years ago.

It really _is_ a slippery slope.

Asking yourself wether or not you're addicted is a sign in my mind.

Also the stuff said above about hiding is a sign.

How long can you do without? How often do you think about cocaine when you're off it? Do you have dreams in which you search for coke but can never seem to get any? Do you tend to maneuver yourself into situations where you can use cocaine?

Cocaine is one of the bad-assest drugs I know. It's fucking with the learning/reward chemistry of your brain big-time (that's why it's so great) and your brain (or certain parts of it) develop elaborate strategies (and I mean elaborate to the point where one such story could fill a book) in order to GET MORE (it's such a great reward and the brain such a good learner) and at the same time hide it from your consciousness. So this happens unconsciously and it takes a lot of effort to unveil these mechanisms.

It took drastic measures for me to get off cocaine.

I hope you can use cocaine from time to time recreationally, if you want that. (although I doubt it, for me it doesn't seem possible, I would slip right back into the shit, I think).

Don't fool yourself, don't get others started.

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I've made myself 5 rules for playing with coke:

1) only ever do measured amounts
2) set a limit to how much you allow yourself to do at one time
3) set a time limit for when you allow yourself to take a subsequent bump
4) if you know you're going to want do to some at a specific time (party, event, etc.) completely abstain until that time
5) if you're not feeling enough effects abiding to these rules, its time to set it aside for a day or more

I stick to these rules almost religiously, because I know if I've done some, I probably cannot be trusted at that moment to make rational decisions about it.

I prepare a fair amount ahead of time and put it in the bullet. I then use what the bullet dispenses as my measuring stick for how much I'm doing. Even if I'm making lines, I dispense it from the bullet so I have a somewhat measured amount. For me and the bullet I use, two cupfuls from it make a healthy, average line. I allow myself to go as high as three per line if its the first hit, but no more. If its new product, I do only one cupful to see how it works for me.

For the time limit, I choose a minimum of 45 minutes. If I didn't note the time when I last hit it, I have to start my timing then for 45 minutes... no guessing is allowed because judgement about this is always going to be skewed in the wrong direction.

For an event, party, etc., I know that I'll want to be feeling the affects of it during that moment. If I've been playing with it ahead of time, I might be nearing tolerance levels at that point and I'll just want to break rules and do too much. So for specific events, abstaining beforehand is always the best policy.

If I am not feeling it enough within the limits of the rules, its time to set it aside and let myself recover as much as possible as I'm just wasting it chasing after something my tolerance at that moment won't allow. Any amount I do once I've reached this point is just being wasteful because "just one more bump" will not have any affect I'm looking for.

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Asking yourself wether or not you're addicted is a sign in my mind.


+1

I've had easy access to coke many years ago living in South America.   It began once a month, then every Friday, then every weekend.   

It was very good, no doubt about it, but it took a toll on me financially and emotionally.

I confess I miss those days, snorting coke makes you feel very good.

But it is very dangerous.  And expensive.

Be careful.

Thankfully I was able to break free, mainly because I got tired of it. 

It's been almost 10 years.    I consider it a 10 year break, soon to become an 11 year break... 

When I see those Hollywood movies showing people snorting (Carlito's Way for instance), I have nice flashbacks.  :)
« Last Edit: October 26, 2011, 05:41 pm by mito »
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Any substance becomes a problem when you are using it for everyday life, as apposed to on occasions, socially and making a "night" of it on the weekend etc.

DO NOT use it when ur bored......That is a surefire way to start an addiciton.

If you notice urself hiding the fact ur high from people around u that KNOW u do the drug, this is another sign.

At the same time, if ur finding urself high around people that dont have any idea you do said things, also cause for concern, you should be able to socialise and get out without it.

Basically stick to having it on your weekends, or if midweek, make sure its not a case of being bored infront of the TV or computer, and taking a hit to make it not so boring. Make a night of it, make it an occasion.

BE CAREFUL. Addiction is a slippery slope, and its only once ur in the heart of an addiction you are able to step back and realize how addicted you are, it happens without you realizing.


wow, I never realized it until Lazy Cloud said it! being bored was how I started on cigarettes. I was on vacation and was so bored looking for things to do so I started smoking. When I came home 3 weeks later,  it was a fullblown habit.
I don't know much about coke addiction since I only did it here and there.
Lets say I haven't had any food, sex, or drugs in awhile, if someone were to wheel in a table full of my favorite foods and naked models laying on it and in his other hand a few grams of a drug. And if he told me, "you must choose between the table (laden with delicious food and naked ladies) or this drug.." And if I picked the drugs, then I would know it was addiction!



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Asking yourself wether or not you're addicted is a sign in my mind.


+1

I've had easy access to coke many years ago living in South America.   It began once a month, then every Friday, then every weekend.   

It was very good, no doubt about it, but it took a toll on me financially and emotionally.

I confess I miss those days, snorting coke makes you feel very good.

But it is very dangerous.  And expensive.

Be careful.

Thankfully I was able to break free, mainly because I got tired of it. 

It's been almost 10 years.    I consider it a 10 year break, soon to become an 11 year break... 

When I see those Hollywood movies showing people snorting (Carlito's Way for instance), I have nice flashbacks.  :)

+1 on all items except the part where you "got tired of it". How did that work? I'm having trouble imagining that.

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Any substance becomes a problem when you are using it for everyday life, as apposed to on occasions, socially and making a "night" of it on the weekend etc.

DO NOT use it when ur bored......That is a surefire way to start an addiciton.

If you notice urself hiding the fact ur high from people around u that KNOW u do the drug, this is another sign.

At the same time, if ur finding urself high around people that dont have any idea you do said things, also cause for concern, you should be able to socialise and get out without it.

Basically stick to having it on your weekends, or if midweek, make sure its not a case of being bored infront of the TV or computer, and taking a hit to make it not so boring. Make a night of it, make it an occasion.

BE CAREFUL. Addiction is a slippery slope, and its only once ur in the heart of an addiction you are able to step back and realize how addicted you are, it happens without you realizing.

All of the above.

I've been addicted to coke for about 4 years. Last time was now 2 years ago.

It really _is_ a slippery slope.

Asking yourself wether or not you're addicted is a sign in my mind.

Also the stuff said above about hiding is a sign.

How long can you do without? How often do you think about cocaine when you're off it? Do you have dreams in which you search for coke but can never seem to get any? Do you tend to maneuver yourself into situations where you can use cocaine?

Cocaine is one of the bad-assest drugs I know. It's fucking with the learning/reward chemistry of your brain big-time (that's why it's so great) and your brain (or certain parts of it) develop elaborate strategies (and I mean elaborate to the point where one such story could fill a book) in order to GET MORE (it's such a great reward and the brain such a good learner) and at the same time hide it from your consciousness. So this happens unconsciously and it takes a lot of effort to unveil these mechanisms.

It took drastic measures for me to get off cocaine.

I hope you can use cocaine from time to time recreationally, if you want that. (although I doubt it, for me it doesn't seem possible, I would slip right back into the shit, I think).

Don't fool yourself, don't get others started.

^^^THIS^^^^  I had a 4 figure a week habit for about a year.  For me, one of the biggest signs was that I found myself in situations, or doing things, that really went against my moral character, or were not things I would normally do if not high.  And it too, took drastic measures for me to stop.  And it's now been almost 4 yrs.

There is no such thing as recreational coke use for me.  I wish there was, but it's just not in my makeup.  I'm really glad I live in an area where meth is not prevalent. I think I would probably take quite a liking to it, and end up all fucked up.

For me, I knew the answer all the while if I was really honest with myself.  Just look hard at yourself...the answer's probably already there.

Good luck.

Oh...one other thing.  Don't smoke it.  It will steal your soul in a way powder doesn't.
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Thanks so much for all your input, people! Very useful stuff and i have taken on board all you have all said! Thanks!!!!!

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Cocaine is an evil drug. You should try to stop as soon as possible. That is just my opinion though.

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Thankfully I was able to break free, mainly because I got tired of it. 


+1 on all items except the part where you "got tired of it". How did that work? I'm having trouble imagining that.

Yes, I know it's hard to explain.   

But I was tired of dealing with shady and dangerous drug dealers, many armed with machine guns, pistols and grenades.  Tired of not having a nice and quiet night of sleep.        Tired of not properly enjoying the weekends.  Tired of the hangovers, the effects and pleasure weren't the same anymore.

I know I'm still vulnerable, as soon as I can get cheap coke, I'll start again.     Thankfully coke is very expensive here in SR.     I'm not paying u$ 100 for a gram, something that'll last me a few hours...     :P
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joe knows. And so do I.

Cocaine addiction is not a fun thing.

If you're starting to wonder what the signs of addiction are so that you can try to use it without becoming addicted, that is a warning sign.

I'm not judging you at all. I'm just saying, from my own personal experience, that was one of my early indicators. Please be safe.

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Casey Jones you better watch your speed.

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AND !!! Cocaine is really bad for your girlfriend :(

If you took too much of it you will have problems to cum! That's it! And you girlfriend will think she doesn't give enough pleasures to you, that's such a bad thing and you start to worry about your virility.

If you drink alcohol and take cocaine, you will have the dick bended and absolutly not straight right ! That's a big problem with the girls and you start to paranoid on your animal instinct :(

That's could be funny like this but this is really a problem i can tell you !

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If you drink alcohol and take cocaine, you will have the dick bended and absolutly not straight right ! That's a big problem with the girls and you start to paranoid on your animal instinct :(


+1

I've been through this before, this wonderful chick performing an awesome BBBJ on my not so hard dick, but all I wanted to do was go back to the lines......   

I ended up leaving the bedroom and her behind....   LOL!         ;D

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