Talk:2000 United States presidential election

Key dates in the election

Election No.	Presidential Election	Electoral College Vote	Electoral Vote tabulated by a Joint Session of Congress	Inauguration
54	November 7, 2000	December 18, 2000	January 6, 2001	January 20, 2001

Additional external links

CBS News http://web.archive.org/web/20000510024518/http://cbsnews.cbs.com/now/section/0,1636,250-412,00.shtml WhisperToMe (talk) 03:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

exit polling/other section within it

there are 4 citations needed for this section. So, Cleanup on spill on aisle Exit polling we got a class 4 situation bring citations this one will be messy. Jerry Steinfield (talk) 04:50, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Ralph Nader

Nader received 2.7% of the vote. Why not include him in the info box? MetaTracker (talk) 20:23, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

MetaTracker, 2.7% is a very small number. Normally we only include candidates who get over 5%. Also, he didn't win any Electoral College votes. If we included him, we would have to add countless other candidates to other election pages and the infoboxes would simply get too big. Giraffer (munch) 09:56, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Giraffer, This is simply not true. In the article for the 1948 United States presidential election the Dixiecrat Strom Thurmond is included in the inforbox despite winning only 2.4% of the popular vote, 0.3% less than Nader. There are several other US election articles that include 3rd candidates who won only single digit percentages of the popular vote. They're included, not because of the popular vote percentage they won (that's not how US elections are decided), but because of the impact their marginal percentages had on the outcome of the vote on the state level, and their historical significance in broader political alignments.

Nader should absolutely be included in the infobox for the 2000 election. Nader and the Green Party were not only reflective of a broader political realignment on the left, they also had a decisive impact on the outcome of the election. The 2000 election wasn't decided based on the popular vote, rather it hinged on the outcome in Florida, where the difference between Gore and Bush was less than 600 votes, and Ralph Nader had won 97,488 votes. Without the role Nader played in the election the outcome would have almost certainly been different.

The role and success of Nader's campaign also legitimized the Green Party and the role of 3rd parties in American presidential elections in general in a way that has significantly impacted subsequent elections. Most notably the 2016 election where both the Green Party and the Libertarian Party were seen as legitimate voting choices, each winning more votes in several states that was greater than the margin of victory between Clinton and Trump, potentially impacting the outcome of the election.

The role Nader played in this election was at least as significant and decisive as 3rd candidates included in articles for the 1948, 1968, 1980, 1992, and 1996 elections, and to present Bush and Gore as the only significant figures in the race is both misleading and inaccurate. Citationsaurus (talk) 21:35, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Citationsaurus, I said normally. Strom Thurmond won 39 electoral votes (7% of the electoral college, or equivalent to Texas now) so obviously regardless of his popular vote he should be included. No candidate is included in any infobox who didn't receive 5% of the popular vote or one electoral college vote (excluding faithless electors), and with the exception of Thurmond, every infobox candidate got over 5%. Every election you mentioned meets this standard (5% or 1 ECV). Nader meets neither, and I believe he isn't sufficient for inclusion in the infobox. Giraffer ^{(Happy·Wikipedia Day!)} 22:35, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Giraffer, Is there an article laying out the standards for election articles you could link me to? If 5% Popular Vote or <1 EV is just your own personal standard it's rather arbitrary as neither are reliable indicators of how significant a candidates role in an election was. By your standard the infobox for the 1960 United States presidential election should feature Robert Byrd who received 15 electoral votes from unpledged delegates elected by 3 different states, even though he wasn't running for President and had no significant presence during the election process. Perhaps he should be included in that article's infobox, but regardless, the current state of the article is inconsistent with your standard. Citationsaurus (talk) 03:39, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Citationsaurus, sorry, I must have missed that, and maybe he should be included. As for the standard, I can't find the original link, but recent RfCs at Talk:2020 United States presidential election have mentioned the 5% or 1 ECV standard, albeit for preliminary polling. (Examples: here here) I've dropped a note at the 2020 election talk asking for a link to the guideline. Giraffer ^{(Happy·Wikipedia Day!)} 09:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

The two people that responded couldn't give me a link, but they said it was either carrying 1 state or 5% of the electoral vote. Giraffer ^{(Happy·Wikipedia Day!)} 08:47, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Campaign finance reform

@AlsoWukai: The John McCain 2000 presidential campaign is what prompted John McCain and Russ Feingold to lead a movement for campaign finance reform which ended up materializing in 2002 when Republicans and Democrats alike ended up unanimously passing the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act through both the House and Senate. Its provisions were so controversial corporations and labor unions on all sides of the political spectrum collaborated to get rid of it in a variety of Supreme Court cases like McConnell v. FEC and McCutcheon v. FEC. They were eventually victorious in Citizens United v. FEC, which even led to the creations of super PACs. I would argue that such landmark changes within just decade that started in John McCain's campaign loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 United States presidential election in South Carolina would establish a link between the election and campaign finance reform in the United States. --HyettsTheGamer2 (talk) 19:01, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

New Hampshire

I attempted to add to the introduction that this was the last time that New Hampshire voted Republican, only to have my edit undone as "silly" and "unsourced". Many other presidential election pages (including 1992, 2004, 2008) mention state trends in their introductions without citations, so how is this any different? -Mad Mismagius (talk) 02:40, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Opinions can vary on whether it belongs anywhere in the article at all, but it certainly is of so little importance that it does not merit discussion in the lede. TJRC (talk) 03:00, 18 April 2021 (UTC)