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Title: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Holly on May 02, 2012, 07:27 pm

My IRL SR mate participated only in Tony's 4/20 sale.... got some cocaine 3 gs and just got the knock and talk...  EAST USA.

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Post by: alcapone on May 02, 2012, 07:32 pm

He bought those 3g from Tony ?

Did they have Tony's pack or anything with them ?

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Post by: venturebros on May 02, 2012, 07:34 pm

Wow! So there IS more to this story, glad I use a PO box, not linked to me personally.
I figured there would have been alot of "Love" letters sent out.
OR maybe the big spenders/shipments would have received the letters.

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Post by: pbody88 on May 02, 2012, 07:42 pm

I think he broke into some dudes house off SR n raped his wife or some shit.

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Post by: hatedpatriot on May 02, 2012, 07:44 pm

This is gonna push some people right over the edge and totally ruin their peace. Sucks.

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Post by: Holly on May 02, 2012, 07:46 pm

Yeah they had papers in hand, friend also used a Ups priv box, they got his home address off the store manager.  The manager says she'll be watching his mail now.... don't know much else.  All your addresses are probably getting at least a small look -_______-  hope you guys are alright. Start cleaning house just in case

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Post by: h4xx on May 02, 2012, 07:47 pm

Still doesn't mean he was busted. Could've done a piss poor packing job and maybe they found it. Nobody else received anything (i didn't)

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Post by: war on May 02, 2012, 07:52 pm

When did he order?  Almost 100% chance he did a shitty packaging job imo.

There's no way they have all the addresses compiled and sent to local police yet or am i way off base with this assumption?

Also as far as cleaning house etc... at what level or ordering are you ACTUALLY at risk of a raid?

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Post by: hatedpatriot on May 02, 2012, 07:56 pm

Quote from: h4xx on May 02, 2012, 07:47 pm

Still doesn't mean he was busted. Could've done a piss poor packing job and maybe they found it. Nobody else received anything (i didn't)

This

I'm glad I didn't order from him. I've tried to keep to small vendors and only fuck with small amounts. Plus I have something I do with my address that would take time for LE to unravel and find me, still I feel bad for those who did order and especially the big orders in the thousands, jeezus. Fucking sucks because these are good people most likely and they have to fear being put in a cage over a substance they choose to ingest. We gotta change this system, it's anti-human and out of control.

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Post by: dman420 on May 02, 2012, 07:57 pm

fuck if it wasnt holly that posted this i would disregard it but i find things hollys posted to be credible

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Post by: Holly on May 02, 2012, 08:06 pm

Quote from: dman420 on May 02, 2012, 07:57 pm

fuck if it wasnt holly that posted this i would disregard it but i find things hollys posted to be credible

I've been hoping for karma's sake that this would be the last thing that happened, I wish he scammed.  But this means LEO has a huge pile of addresses.   Who knows what they're gonna do with it or use it at all.  My bet is prepare for the worst,  spring cleaning motherfuckers

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Post by: hatedpatriot on May 02, 2012, 08:07 pm

I have no faith in the election process. And what you say about the media and public support being suppressed is absolutely valid and cannot be denied by any observant person. The public is being railroaded, have been for many years, but it's about to come to a head.  In less than a decade this system will change or the government will be forced to detain and/or kill a huge number of "insurgents". There comes a time when you have nothing left to loose.

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Post by: raven92 on May 02, 2012, 08:12 pm

It seems like a bit of a leap to assume that he got busted for sure. But at the same time, he was one of the bigger vendors and had tons of product being moved, it wouldnt suprise me if LE didn't focus in on them/him during the 420 sale, or even before :(

I gota agree with holly on the if you ordered now, before, ever time to cleanup and sit tight for awhile.

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Post by: divinechemicals on May 02, 2012, 08:17 pm

Has your friend made any other purchases at all on the site? Even before the 420 sale? It's possible that another package of his was intercepted. Also, if Tony was busted, we would have heard something by now right? A huge drug dealer is busted and the media doesn't report it at all? Also, TMart has been taken down so what's the significance of that?

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Post by: Holly on May 02, 2012, 08:25 pm

Quote from: divinechemicals on May 02, 2012, 08:17 pm

Has your friend made any other purchases at all on the site? Even before the 420 sale? It's possible that another package of his was intercepted. Also, if Tony was busted, we would have heard something by now right? A huge drug dealer is busted and the media doesn't report it at all? Also, TMart has been taken down so what's the significance of that?

yes but no international orders in the last 60 days besides tony.  Tonysbpacks were always fairly disguised to me so thievish why im assuming its a bust...  also another member got knocked and talked today... idk if he also ordered from tony tho... I asked.

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Post by: Deleuze on May 02, 2012, 08:26 pm

Quote from: l1llykins on May 02, 2012, 08:19 pm

The T-Mart might have been an address-collecting scheme.

Invites to T-Mart were sent out over SR PM's, so if it was a scheme the LEO also had access to Tony's SR.  This is something I doubt because I was invited to the T-Mart just a couple days after ordering and receiving a half-sheet of genuine Acid.  The LEO can't send real drugs to people through the mail system, and if they had access to the T-Mart they must have had access to his SR, and therefore everyone's addresses.

I don't believe the LEO sent me this bombass acid just to get my address for future use.

That being said Holly is scaring the shit out of me and my jimmies are getting rustled, even though I didn't order during the sale and am 2/2 with Tony.

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Post by: Delta11 on May 02, 2012, 08:29 pm

So if you ordered during the 4/20 sale with your address encrypted do you think LE will still have access to the address? I'm assuming Tony didn't send out the majority of the orders after 4/20.

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Post by: awesome1126 on May 02, 2012, 08:30 pm

The fact that there have been other recent orders by this person makes me think it's not tony76. Did all of the other packs arrive, beit domestic or international? It's possible he's been watched since an initially discovered domestic/international pack, and watched since then.

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Post by: deadfuture on May 02, 2012, 08:33 pm

Just wondering what department did the knock...locals, state, or feds?  That may help paint a better picture...

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Post by: mikeybourbon on May 02, 2012, 08:44 pm

I ordered before the 420 sale.  Probably around the 12th of April.  I sent my address encrypted and received product.  Although I will clean house (in the process of doing so).  Did your friend receive the product or no?  My philosophy is:  if you get the package in a timley manner and the goods are inside your safe.  Am I wrong or should I just shut down my own SR "operation"?

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Post by: l1llykins on May 02, 2012, 08:46 pm

Just read on the other thread that the person who received the knock did NOT order from Tony76. It could just be that LE is being more watchful of suspicious packages that were mailed on or around 4/20.

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Post by: alcapone on May 02, 2012, 08:49 pm

I dont know about this ...

I think the DEA or whoever would be tooting their horn pretty loud if they had infiltrated SR like this.

Tony hasnt been around in about a week ... so thats 7 days of news it hasnt come out in.

I am around Tony as well and there has been nothing in the papers up here about it either.

Catching up buyers of a few grams here and there doesnt do nearly the damage that announcing they have taken down the number 1 seller on SR would do. It would destroy all confidence in this place.

There must be more to this story, although I have seen other posts by Holly and they are always straight up.

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Post by: Delta11 on May 02, 2012, 08:51 pm

Quote from: l1llykins on May 02, 2012, 08:46 pm

Just read on the other thread that the person who received the knock did NOT order from Tony76. It could just be that LE is being more watchful of suspicious packages that were mailed on or around 4/20.

Okay cool I think we're safe then, most likely the person ordered from Noreiga because he's missing as well. I think if you ordered from Tony during the 4/20 sale and encrypted your address you're safe because I'm assuming that Tony never even sent any of the products either because he scammed us or got busted.

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Post by: captainjojo on May 02, 2012, 08:56 pm

I was just wondering.  A conservative estimate of the number of people who ordered from Tony over the week or so before the sale and the few days after the sale is probably around 70-100.  As far as I know not one of those people has said they received anything.

Yet, your IRL buddy, out of all those people, received his 3g's to his drop?  And LE came calling?

And if the stuff didn't come to his drop, it was just LE with his address investigating him, where did they get the address from, and why would they even be bothering him if nothing came?  Someone gave them the address and they just decided to knock on his door to see if they could shake the person up?  What would be the point if they didn't have anything to hold against him/her?  And if they did have the product, I would think they would have taken him/her downtown, not just talked to them.  It's one thing for something to be delivered to someones home mailbox, it is much easier to deny.  Something coming to a PO box, correctly addressed, tends to show intent.

If Tony did get popped, then he got popped by his own country's LE.  They would be the ones with all the addresses.  That would mean they had to have sent the address to other LE.  If that was the case we would be hearing from all sorts of people, yet again, out of 70-100 (at least) buyers we haven't heard of anyone getting product and we haven't heard of anyone having their doors knocked on.

All these threads with more and more complicated theories amazes me.  If he got popped or sick or simply took a vacation, then we would still expect a percentage of those people who ordered BEFORE the sale getting their product, yet as far as I can tell from all the threads and polls, nobody has.  These items would have been in the mail and at least some of them would have arrived before he left, however that was.  LE would not have been able to intercept them in time as far as I can see, some would have gotten through.

The old saying, "The simplest answer is usually the correct one", seems to me to be the most plausible.

From every indication Tony was setting everything up for this a couple of weeks in advance.  He refused to send via express or priority or any type of tracked shipment, so it would take longer before people could say their package wasn't coming.  He asked for FE from basically everybody, he opened up international. He then told everyone he was going offline to get caught up, further obscuring things.

The simplest answer would seem to be he just completed one of the biggest scams on SR and is relaxing seaside with a Margarita with 60-100k of everybody's money.

I would love to be wrong.  I would love to open my mail and find a letter from Tony.  But I'm not holding my breath waiting for it.

I'm not saying that everything didn't happen exactly as your buddy says, but are you sure there couldn't be some other reason they were bothering him/her?  They never ordered anything else from anyone else?

Again, this is just my opinion, don't take it personally, I'm just thinking out loud here.

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Post by: Bamann on May 02, 2012, 08:59 pm

If he got busted then why would he have posted that he would be back in 1-2 days?  I don't see what purpose it would serve law enforcement to allow him to put up a message like that, also if they were going to harvest addresses, wouldn't his listings have been left up?  ???

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Post by: Fah-Q on May 02, 2012, 09:28 pm

Hmmm...Interesting. I noticed a couple of other popular Canadian vendors take there listings down. This may explain why...

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Post by: CrankedToEleven on May 02, 2012, 09:35 pm

Quote from: Holly on May 02, 2012, 07:27 pm

My IRL SR mate participated only in Tony's 4/20 sale.... got some cocaine 3 gs and just got the knock and talk...  EAST USA.

::)

Know (verb):
1) Be aware of through observation, inquiry, or information.
2) Have knowledge or information concerning.

Unless you're psychic (in which case you could telepathically divine the fate of Tony's 4/20 orders), you do NOT know that Tony was or was not busted. You may possess reasonable suspicion to think so, but to announce with absolute certainty that Tony was busted sans proof (e.g. indictment, arrest warrant, etc.) is reckless. The signal-to-noise ratio on these boards is already terrible enough to the point of uselessness. Fanning the fires of paranoia, panic, anxiety, and oh-my-fucking-god-i-better-cover-my-cornhole-cause-some-dude-had-my-address-and-i-ordered-a-tiny-amount-of-dope-and-some-anonymous-dude's-friend's-cousin's-step-son-got-a-knock-so-i-better-buy-a-cabin-with-my-btc-in-Iowa-and-hunker-down-for-a-year-getting-high-on-cow-shit-and-nutmeg-ness-so-i-don't-get-buttfucked-by-Tony-in-prison-ness is irritating because a) I'm handicapped by the need to make sense (which means reliable information backing up such a specious claim and b) I have to wade through post after post of people pointlessly and publicly freaking out over shit they have zero control over.

If you're ordering drugs from the Internet, you need to habituate yourself to the possibility that at some point you might encounter LEO. This means adopting behavior that severely reduces the likelihood that a government agent will find a reason to cuff your ass. Some of this behavior may make it slightly inconvenient to freely use your drugs, but I'd rather be inconvenienced by hiding my stash that takes 5 minutes to reach than be inconvenienced by a charge of possession or intent to distribute. Dealing with either of those is definitely more than 5 minutes.

So, until someone has a mug shot, a crime scene photo with a corpse, copy of an indictment, etc. I'm going with the simplest explanation: Tony went AWOL. Maybe he pulled a legendary con. Maybe he stiffed his supplier and got his ass killed. Maybe he discovered that having to rapidly scale an illegal trafficking business was more than he could handle so he said "Fuck it". I'd rather lose $1000 to a con man than use it to post bail or retain a lawyer. It's also why you shouldn't gamble more than you can afford to lose. The odds of scoring here are still better than winning big at a casino.

To summarize, unless your use of the verb "know" falls into one of the above two categories, don't fucking use it. And stop fucking moaning about how Tony done broke-ded all your hearts and wallets. Rolling in the muck is never the best way to get clean.

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Post by: raven92 on May 02, 2012, 09:37 pm

Quote from: Bamann on May 02, 2012, 08:59 pm

If he got busted then why would he have posted that he would be back in 1-2 days?  I don't see what purpose it would serve law enforcement to allow him to put up a message like that, also if they were going to harvest addresses, wouldn't his listings have been left up?  ???

He could have posted that himself and been busted in route to delivery/dropoff. They could have just not wanted to leave a message 'Hey Drug Users we captured tony', and maybe once they had him it was just time to call the operation, maybe they werent going after the buyers, but a few of them just got nabbed because they got 'lucky'. He could have just scammed everyone. He could have been hit by a car on the way to drop off. He could have been shot...

Honestly all of this is just speculation and we may (probably wont) never have any real idea of what happend.

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Post by: Deleuze on May 02, 2012, 10:08 pm

Quote from: raven92 on May 02, 2012, 09:37 pm

He could have posted that himself and been busted in route to delivery/dropoff. They could have just not wanted to leave a message 'Hey Drug Users we captured tony', and maybe once they had him it was just time to call the operation, maybe they werent going after the buyers, but a few of them just got nabbed because they got 'lucky'. He could have just scammed everyone. He could have been hit by a car on the way to drop off. He could have been shot...

Honestly all of this is just speculation and we may (probably wont) never have any real idea of what happend.

How do you explain T-Mart staying online until just a couple days ago?

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Post by: zingzong on May 02, 2012, 10:21 pm

Quote from: Deleuze on May 02, 2012, 10:08 pm

How do you explain T-Mart staying online until just a couple days ago?

Servers go up, servers go down, you can't explain that!

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Post by: jackthetripper on May 02, 2012, 10:42 pm

Quote

Fanning the fires of paranoia, panic, anxiety, and oh-my-fucking-god-i-better-cover-my-cornhole-cause-some-dude-had-my-address-and-i-ordered-a-tiny-amount-of-dope-and-some-anonymous-dude's-friend's-cousin's-step-son-got-a-knock-so-i-better-buy-a-cabin-with-my-btc-in-Iowa-and-hunker-down-for-a-year-getting-high-on-cow-shit-and-nutmeg-ness-so-i-don't-get-buttfucked-by-Tony-in-prison-ness is irritating because a) I'm handicapped by the need to make sense (which means reliable information backing up such a specious claim and b) I have to wade through post after post of people pointlessly and publicly freaking out over shit they have zero control over

xD + 9 million

Okay look.  Here's why I don't think this is plausible.  I ordered a half sheet from him on 4/18.  He messaged me back 4/18 told me to early final.  I did 2 hours later.  He said that it would go out as soon as possible, even threw in the fact that Canada has no mail on Saturdays.  Here is it 5/2, and I am closer to Tony most likely than I am to some other people in my own state, international mail notwithstanding.  His page was up for many days after my order because I kept coming back to check, thinking goddamn, I didn't know about any 4:20 sale, I could have saved 90 bucks.  That went on for maybe a week then the 24-48 hours notice came up.  So he was not mailing things out for several days before his disappearance happened, that is for sure.  It is 15 days later.  I would not worry about LE even if I was ordering pounds from him because a) that does not constitute a crime; b) that is a pain in the ass to law enforcement, most cops are not that smart and the white collar boys at fbi or dea don't bust buyers, only massive scale sellers.  Like tony.  So couldn't "trade up" by giving up his buyers.  They are not going to bother with PGP and even if tony76 gave his passphrase that would be pointless of them to bother with it.  They are not going to be able to get surveillance, a warrant, jack shit off of that.  Only controlled buys and intercepts.  If a cop ever does show up, "No sir, I don't have any information about that.  I'd like you to leave now.  I would like to speak to a lawyer."  Oh, and in regards to ^, if it was me and tony in a prison cell I'd be the one doing the cornholing.  Haha eww.  No homo.

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Post by: kingpinirl on May 02, 2012, 10:54 pm

I've never purchased from him so this doesn't effect me, but OP, did the product physically get to his address, or did LEO just have his address?  It could be possible that Tony was in route to deliver and got popped.  Maybe he had a shitload of packages on him?  Maybe they then used those addresses?  Who knows.  Just a thought.  Personally, from what I've read, I'm assuming he is just MIA w/ peoples hard earned cash, and it makes me sick.  Fuck people like that.

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Post by: Jimmy245 on May 02, 2012, 10:58 pm

Quote from: eeee on May 02, 2012, 07:46 pm

... but I'm not a doped up junkie...

We weren't even thinking anything like that.

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Post by: LainOfTheWired1984 on May 02, 2012, 11:19 pm

Holly, I'm curious. How much stuff has your friend been ordering in his career. That would really help spell this out for all of us!

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Post by: phubaiblues on May 02, 2012, 11:26 pm

Like all theories, leaves too much unexplained.  Many of us ordered before the 'contest' and purposefully laid low during it...and Tony chatted a bit, mostly letting me know I didn't need to finalize if I didn't want to....and then didn't deliver.   He said he shipped, and he didn't.  It's a scam.  And until bunches of us get similar happenings, I don't buy it.  The only thing all of us have in common is that our order wasn't sent...if me, and say five other people, had this exact same 'knock knock, who's there? LE' etc. then we can start peeing in our pajamas.

So this was unrelated.

"Tony!"
"Tony from New York!?"
"Oh yeah, I know Tony from New York, he's a drug dealer!"
"That's the guy!"
"NO, Tony from Canada!"
"Tony from Canada?!"
"Yeah, *that* Tony!"
"I *know* that dude, man!"
"Tony from Canada."
"Yeah, *that* Tony."
"No dude, Tony from Silk Road."
"Tony from Silk Road!?"
"Yeah, the dude who deals drugs."
"I *know* that dude, man!"

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Post by: lilith2u on May 03, 2012, 12:52 am

This Tony76 and Noriega shit all smells like rotten fucking fish! WTF with the sales......Duh motherfucker its going to draw attention! Maybe we haven't  heard anything in the media  because it isn't over? I'm sick of the scams and paranoia. No more sales please!
And to the Ron Paul folks, He'll never be elected because he actually believes what hes saying. The powers to be hate Truth....plus he's kinda nuts on social issues:)

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Post by: kmfkewm on May 03, 2012, 01:04 am

Quote from: war on May 02, 2012, 07:52 pm

When did he order?  Almost 100% chance he did a shitty packaging job imo.

There's no way they have all the addresses compiled and sent to local police yet or am i way off base with this assumption?

Also as far as cleaning house etc... at what level or ordering are you ACTUALLY at risk of a raid?

You are at risk of a raid from ordering any amount what-so-ever of anything illegal. You are very unlikely to be raided for personal use amounts of lowly scheduled drugs (xanax) or research chemicals or marijuana seeds. Any amounts of anything else and you are at risk of a knock and talk. I know of people who had knock and talks over ounces of weed, and were charged. If you order sheet of acid or ounce of MDMA I wouldn't be surprised if you are raided either.

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Post by: cacoethes on May 03, 2012, 01:52 am

Quote from: Holly on May 02, 2012, 07:27 pm

My IRL SR mate participated only in Tony's 4/20 sale.... got some cocaine 3 gs and just got the knock and talk...  EAST USA.

Correlation does not imply causation.

Quote from: eeee on May 02, 2012, 07:46 pm

I told you idiots a week ago, expect LE to come from Tony's shit.  No one wants to believe me because it just seems too "out there" but I'm not a doped up junkie, I know what the fuck is going on.

You're funny, eeee.  You've spouted off every possible scenario you could think of regarding LE involvement, even directly contradicting your own theories, yet still stating them as facts.  Again, please contribute something useful or just put a fucking sock in it.  No one wants to believe you because you have no credibility.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Limetless on May 03, 2012, 01:56 am

Tony isn't busted. Someone is logging his BTC transfers on another thread. Pretty clever actually, he's doing a proper shit job of it.

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Post by: FUCK SCAMMERS on May 03, 2012, 02:30 am

Yes, he didn't get pinched. Here's the thread LL is speaking of:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=21429.0

I bet he's sweatin his ass off!

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Post by: mntmnwva on May 03, 2012, 04:46 am

Quote from: Limetless on May 03, 2012, 01:56 am

Tony isn't busted. Someone is logging his BTC transfers on another thread. Pretty clever actually, he's doing a proper shit job of it.

Oh snap! Too bad you couldn't trace them to an e-wallet, snatch em all and share em back to SR (scammed buyers)

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Post by: deltasigma on May 03, 2012, 08:36 am

Quote from: CrankedToEleven on May 02, 2012, 09:35 pm

Quote from: Holly on May 02, 2012, 07:27 pm

My IRL SR mate participated only in Tony's 4/20 sale.... got some cocaine 3 gs and just got the knock and talk...  EAST USA.

::)

Know (verb):
1) Be aware of through observation, inquiry, or information.
2) Have knowledge or information concerning.

Unless you're psychic (in which case you could telepathically divine the fate of Tony's 4/20 orders), you do NOT know that Tony was or was not busted. You may possess reasonable suspicion to think so, but to announce with absolute certainty that Tony was busted sans proof (e.g. indictment, arrest warrant, etc.) is reckless. The signal-to-noise ratio on these boards is already terrible enough to the point of uselessness. Fanning the fires of paranoia, panic, anxiety, and oh-my-fucking-god-i-better-cover-my-cornhole-cause-some-dude-had-my-address-and-i-ordered-a-tiny-amount-of-dope-and-some-anonymous-dude's-friend's-cousin's-step-son-got-a-knock-so-i-better-buy-a-cabin-with-my-btc-in-Iowa-and-hunker-down-for-a-year-getting-high-on-cow-shit-and-nutmeg-ness-so-i-don't-get-buttfucked-by-Tony-in-prison-ness is irritating because a) I'm handicapped by the need to make sense (which means reliable information backing up such a specious claim and b) I have to wade through post after post of people pointlessly and publicly freaking out over shit they have zero control over.

If you're ordering drugs from the Internet, you need to habituate yourself to the possibility that at some point you might encounter LEO. This means adopting behavior that severely reduces the likelihood that a government agent will find a reason to cuff your ass. Some of this behavior may make it slightly inconvenient to freely use your drugs, but I'd rather be inconvenienced by hiding my stash that takes 5 minutes to reach than be inconvenienced by a charge of possession or intent to distribute. Dealing with either of those is definitely more than 5 minutes.

So, until someone has a mug shot, a crime scene photo with a corpse, copy of an indictment, etc. I'm going with the simplest explanation: Tony went AWOL. Maybe he pulled a legendary con. Maybe he stiffed his supplier and got his ass killed. Maybe he discovered that having to rapidly scale an illegal trafficking business was more than he could handle so he said "Fuck it". I'd rather lose $1000 to a con man than use it to post bail or retain a lawyer. It's also why you shouldn't gamble more than you can afford to lose. The odds of scoring here are still better than winning big at a casino.

To summarize, unless your use of the verb "know" falls into one of the above two categories, don't fucking use it. And stop fucking moaning about how Tony done broke-ded all your hearts and wallets. Rolling in the muck is never the best way to get clean.

Holy shit. I just got an erection reading that.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Kappacino on May 03, 2012, 11:25 am

Holly, what the FUCK are you talking about? Seriously??? I mean, WHAT THE FUCK?

"My friend ordered from Tony and got a knock, therefore Tony was busted"

I mean, are you fucking serious?

That is absolutely RETARDED.

What about the simple, and OBVIOUS explanation that THEY JUST FOUND IT IN THE FUCKING MAIL. Huh? What about that?

Yet you go straight to the fucking BOLD claim that you KNOW that Tony got busted.

I have to question your motives coming out with vapid bullshit this fatuous. I don't give a fuck if you're respected here.

You're stirring up shit and spreading misinformation because you seem to be too dumb to think through some basic logic.

The ONLY thing you can assume from your friend getting a knock is that they found it in the mail.

Anything more than that is BULLSHIT and you should retract your comment or not mind that people start insinuating that you are involved with Tony (which they will, because you're acting like a fucking idiot)

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Fah-Q on May 03, 2012, 12:48 pm

Looks like he pulled a Hybridmike. They pulled his sellers account.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: deadfuture on May 03, 2012, 01:16 pm

Quote from: FUCK SCAMMERS on May 03, 2012, 02:30 am

Yes, he didn't get pinched. Here's the thread LL is speaking of:

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=21429.0

I bet he's sweatin his ass off!

That link just comes back to this thread.  I believe this is the thread limetless is talking about.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=21446.0

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: i3lazd on May 03, 2012, 02:30 pm

fuck

ordered 2 grams of coke off him... he getting followed?

will I be looked at now?

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Holly on May 03, 2012, 03:52 pm

Fuck just cause I'm not looking at the forums as often.   Anyway it was done by DHS agents.  I based my ASSUMPTIONS based on my friend not having any other incoming orders.  And no he never received his pack but he usually gets Tony's packs 7-8 days after ordering always and agents came 8 days later.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: phubaiblues on May 03, 2012, 05:29 pm

I appreciate *any* info that comes to these forums, so we can make informed decisions.  Based on everything I've read--and my own dual 'no shows' ordered quite some time ago, I believe it was what it appears to be: a well thought out scam.  He disappeared too neatly, and my own varied street experience is that, given the choice between 'He might have got busted' and 'He might have ripped me off'  The rip-off theory wins hands down.

There'd be a few other deliveries if Tony'd gotten cracked, not to mention a few other doors kicked in...hey, but I still check my mailbox...'just in case' ha ha...

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Veetano on May 03, 2012, 11:30 pm

Just throwing this out there.

Cops CAN send you illegal drugs through the mail, when working under cover.

Cops that are undercover are protected from any drug related laws. They can smoke drugs, use drugs, sell drugs, distribute, and as long as they are undercover, they are protected by the law. And just because they're cops doesn't mean they won't actually sell drugs in a long-term undercover operation

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Veetano on May 03, 2012, 11:37 pm

What if all of this is staged? What if the person who posted this thread was paid a ton of bitcoins to say their RL friend got a knock and talk, to make it even further appear that Tony got busted? No offense Holly, just throwing out possibilities.

It could all very easily be one big scam. This single thread, shifts everybodies mind away from "did he even send anything, will I get my product, have I been scammed" to "oh shit what if he got busted, I hope I don't get busted, etc"

This thread essentially distracts everybody for some extra days, lengthening out the AutoFinalize time period. To increase the chances of Tony keeping his money.

I mean, it's just a possibility. Nothing against anyone here or the OP.

If I was going to pull of a MasterMind scam I would not just do it. I would create smokescreens to make it appear as if another fate had happened to me, or distract people long enough to get the money and book it.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: alcapone on May 03, 2012, 11:42 pm

Its been established this isnt real/misunderstanding.

Tony is moving BTC around in accounts DaMan is tracking.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Holly on May 04, 2012, 12:57 am

Quote from: Veetano on May 03, 2012, 11:37 pm

What if all of this is staged? What if the person who posted this thread was paid a ton of bitcoins to say their RL friend got a knock and talk, to make it even further appear that Tony got busted? No offense Holly, just throwing out possibilities.

It could all very easily be one big scam. This single thread, shifts everybodies mind away from "did he even send anything, will I get my product, have I been scammed" to "oh shit what if he got busted, I hope I don't get busted, etc"

This thread essentially distracts everybody for some extra days, lengthening out the AutoFinalize time period. To increase the chances of Tony keeping his money.

I mean, it's just a possibility. Nothing against anyone here or the OP.

If I was going to pull of a MasterMind scam I would not just do it. I would create smokescreens to make it appear as if another fate had happened to me, or distract people long enough to get the money and book it.

No, I was also jumping the gun on my guess when it happened.  I've been following DaMan's thread too and I'm convinced he went scammer.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: WTF HOLLY on May 04, 2012, 01:12 am

Quote from: Holly on May 04, 2012, 12:57 am

Quote from: Veetano on May 03, 2012, 11:37 pm

What if all of this is staged? What if the person who posted this thread was paid a ton of bitcoins to say their RL friend got a knock and talk, to make it even further appear that Tony got busted? No offense Holly, just throwing out possibilities.

It could all very easily be one big scam. This single thread, shifts everybodies mind away from "did he even send anything, will I get my product, have I been scammed" to "oh shit what if he got busted, I hope I don't get busted, etc"

This thread essentially distracts everybody for some extra days, lengthening out the AutoFinalize time period. To increase the chances of Tony keeping his money.

I mean, it's just a possibility. Nothing against anyone here or the OP.

If I was going to pull of a MasterMind scam I would not just do it. I would create smokescreens to make it appear as if another fate had happened to me, or distract people long enough to get the money and book it.

No, I was also jumping the gun on my guess when it happened.  I've been following DaMan's thread too and I'm convinced he went scammer.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: TBBSecurity on May 04, 2012, 01:41 am

Being talked to by DHS agents is much more severe than local police or even the DEA.  They obviously felt it was a matter of national security that if these drugs would have reached him, there would have been nuclear missiles going off all around. Watch out for those cocaine missiles.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: nonnihilnitoris on May 04, 2012, 08:42 am

Quote from: hatedpatriot on May 02, 2012, 08:07 pm

I have no faith in the election process. And what you say about the media and public support being suppressed is absolutely valid and cannot be denied by any observant person. The public is being railroaded, have been for many years, but it's about to come to a head.  In less than a decade this system will change or the government will be forced to detain and/or kill a huge number of "insurgents". There comes a time when you have nothing left to loose.

This is somewhat off-topic, but I had to commend you for expressing the truth. I'd say the mass detention is coming in 3-5 years though, certainly less than 7...

http://on.rt.com/wwmlqd "Alleged US Army doc: re-education camps and psy-op missions aimed at activists "

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: hatedpatriot on May 04, 2012, 09:32 am

I disagree. DHS was probably used because they do not have any jurisdictional boundaries. They are essential free to roam the earth and persecute whom ever they wish.

This is why I cannot believe some people advocate involving LE in our disputes here. These guys have way too much power already.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Terminal Viscosity on May 04, 2012, 02:53 pm

Quote from: hatedpatriot on May 04, 2012, 09:32 am

I disagree. DHS was probably used because they do not have any jurisdictional boundaries. They are essential free to roam the earth and persecute whom ever they wish.

This is why I cannot believe some people advocate involving LE in our disputes here. These guys have way too much power already.

DHS is over customs.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Stormtrooper420 on May 04, 2012, 10:32 pm

I feel like this has been planned the whole time honestly, I feel like thats why Tony was so good at calling out scammers, maybe he was those scammers making extra money while being the big guy tony and trying to look like the good guy andd calling out scammers to where he could scam even more in the future. He built up a lot of trust. Ashame he left and got greedy.

Best Regards,
Stormtrooper

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: phubaiblues on May 05, 2012, 02:58 am

Quote from: Stormtrooper420 on May 04, 2012, 10:32 pm

I feel like this has been planned the whole time honestly, I feel like thats why Tony was so good at calling out scammers, maybe he was those scammers making extra money while being the big guy tony and trying to look like the good guy andd calling out scammers to where he could scam even more in the future. He built up a lot of trust. Ashame he left and got greedy.

Best Regards,
Stormtrooper

Other scammers before him did it similarly: start out shipping good product, then claim some reverse scammer/s is/are driving them bananas, this is usually accompanied by requests to wait longer before complaining, and it ends up giving the vendor a whole lot of sympathetic 'players' in his game...they tend to shush buyers who complain, and they tend to rave about the vendor, and why finalizing early is such a good deal, etc.    It doesn't take long to follow Tony's thread, and to see how quickly people started letting him dictate the terms or our relationship.  He didn't need to quiet down people who complained: we did it for him...slick.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Holly on May 05, 2012, 03:09 am

Quote from: phubaiblues on May 05, 2012, 02:58 am

Quote from: Stormtrooper420 on May 04, 2012, 10:32 pm

I feel like this has been planned the whole time honestly, I feel like thats why Tony was so good at calling out scammers, maybe he was those scammers making extra money while being the big guy tony and trying to look like the good guy andd calling out scammers to where he could scam even more in the future. He built up a lot of trust. Ashame he left and got greedy.

Best Regards,
Stormtrooper

Other scammers before him did it similarly: start out shipping good product, then claim some reverse scammer/s is/are driving them bananas, this is usually accompanied by requests to wait longer before complaining, and it ends up giving the vendor a whole lot of sympathetic 'players' in his game...they tend to shush buyers who complain, and they tend to rave about the vendor, and why finalizing early is such a good deal, etc.    It doesn't take long to follow Tony's thread, and to see how quickly people started letting him dictate the terms or our relationship.  He didn't need to quiet down people who complained: we did it for him...slick.

Time to prepare for next time.... sucks though cause he could supply real acid.. at a substandard price.  Was doing the world a favor for a bit.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: SolidRain on May 05, 2012, 04:17 am

These threads are so fun to read, but its like NJ housewives. LOL

If they got Bin Laden they can get you!

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: phubaiblues on May 05, 2012, 04:24 am

Quote from: Holly on May 05, 2012, 03:09 am

Time to prepare for next time.... sucks though cause he could supply real acid.. at a substandard price.  Was doing the world a favor for a bit.

Yep.  I know it's been hard on a lot of people.  When someone is good, like Tony was, for that length of time, it was very difficult for people to face the fact he'd gone bad.  But all the evidence points that way, so I guess we have to move on.  And like I've said, it's our first year of operation.  We're doing fine just to still be in business.  Yeah, a bunch of us lost money, but there are worse things that could have happened...best wishes, Holly

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: markwest on May 05, 2012, 05:58 am

fuck man, i was laying low for a while after my last order cos... well anyway, but what made it easier was that i was broke, but i was pissed about missing the sale and tony going international. now im fucking glad i 'missed out'

reading over the scam thread it looks like he got away with 5300 coins. now that is shitloads to me, $25k or so right, and whilst that is a lot of money, for the amount of money tony was making it doesnt seem like enough to run away with. am i doing my sums wrong?

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: TBBSecurity on May 05, 2012, 06:04 am

You read wrong, he got away with almost 60 thousand coins from idiots, and another 1000-9000 straight from DPR directly.  He fucked the road twice.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: SolidRain on May 05, 2012, 07:07 am

Where are you guyz getting this info? I know I don't believe anything here as a matter of fact, Arm chair quarterbacks at best. Not saying you guys don't have good intel, but how would anyone know?

Reminds of Highschool bantor. Yeah, he fuked a bunch of people let 's move on. Oh yeah, Don't FE, think I read that somewhere.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Caparino on May 05, 2012, 07:35 am

Quote from: SolidRain on May 05, 2012, 04:17 am

These threads are so fun to read, but its like NJ housewives. LOL

If they got Bin Laden they can get you!

IF /facepalm

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: Kappacino on May 05, 2012, 07:37 am

Quote from: SolidRain on May 05, 2012, 07:07 am

Where are you guyz getting this info? I know I don't believe anything here as a matter of fact, Arm chair quarterbacks at best. Not saying you guys don't have good intel, but how would anyone know?

Reminds of Highschool bantor. Yeah, he fuked a bunch of people let 's move on. Oh yeah, Don't FE, think I read that somewhere.

TBBSecurity is a troll but there was in fact a thread, I think its called "tony76 - yellow flag" where DaMan followed Tonys coins from his private TMART wallet through the blockchain.

It's estimated he got about $200,000 total with about $25,000 of that being separate from SR.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: pbody88 on May 05, 2012, 11:24 am

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Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: kmfkewm on May 05, 2012, 12:32 pm

Quote from: unknownuser2012 on May 04, 2012, 10:21 pm

Quote from: Terminal Viscosity on May 04, 2012, 02:53 pm

Quote from: hatedpatriot on May 04, 2012, 09:32 am

I disagree. DHS was probably used because they do not have any jurisdictional boundaries. They are essential free to roam the earth and persecute whom ever they wish.

This is why I cannot believe some people advocate involving LE in our disputes here. These guys have way too much power already.

DHS is over customs.

ok, I give up--wtf is DHS? Are we talking homeland security? Why would they be involved??

Customs is part of DHS. Many big vendors who end up pwnt are pwnt by DHS, enelysion for one example.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: raven92 on May 05, 2012, 05:35 pm

Quote from: kmfkewm on May 05, 2012, 12:32 pm

Quote from: unknownuser2012 on May 04, 2012, 10:21 pm

Quote from: Terminal Viscosity on May 04, 2012, 02:53 pm

Quote from: hatedpatriot on May 04, 2012, 09:32 am

I disagree. DHS was probably used because they do not have any jurisdictional boundaries. They are essential free to roam the earth and persecute whom ever they wish.

This is why I cannot believe some people advocate involving LE in our disputes here. These guys have way too much power already.

DHS is over customs.

ok, I give up--wtf is DHS? Are we talking homeland security? Why would they be involved??

Customs is part of DHS. Many big vendors who end up pwnt are pwnt by DHS, enelysion for one example.

DHS deals with secret clearences, customs, a lot of things, they have a very wide grasp, way to large for any one group.

kmfkewm, are there indictment reports on the whole enelysion thing anywhere? havent read them, would like to

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: nothing on May 05, 2012, 09:13 pm

I think some are misunderstanding the possible outcomes and scenarios.....It really isn't implausible that the government would really sell drugs to people as they don't care and they own a shit load of them and they want money.......but what "money" would they rather discredit the most and get rid of?  You have to think of it, this way there has to be some established something, someone who is legit who can make the drug aside from distribution..........local LE routinely skims money off the top of most drug markets in the USA..............just sayin.......you really think they burn all those drugs? or just show burn them?  if its good enough I am sure they keep it......

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: toker420 on May 06, 2012, 12:11 am

Quote from: raven92 on May 05, 2012, 05:35 pm

Quote from: kmfkewm on May 05, 2012, 12:32 pm

Quote from: unknownuser2012 on May 04, 2012, 10:21 pm

Quote from: Terminal Viscosity on May 04, 2012, 02:53 pm

Quote from: hatedpatriot on May 04, 2012, 09:32 am

I disagree. DHS was probably used because they do not have any jurisdictional boundaries. They are essential free to roam the earth and persecute whom ever they wish.

This is why I cannot believe some people advocate involving LE in our disputes here. These guys have way too much power already.

DHS is over customs.

ok, I give up--wtf is DHS? Are we talking homeland security? Why would they be involved??

Customs is part of DHS. Many big vendors who end up pwnt are pwnt by DHS, enelysion for one example.

DHS deals with secret clearences, customs, a lot of things, they have a very wide grasp, way to large for any one group.

kmfkewm, are there indictment reports on the whole enelysion thing anywhere? havent read them, would like to

Just get a pacer account bud.  Real easy if you got a credit card, which every fucking one does

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: wretched on May 06, 2012, 06:40 am

Quote from: toker420 on May 06, 2012, 12:11 am

Real easy if you got a credit card, which every fucking one does

I don't have a credit card, or a bank account for that matter, can I borrow yours to get a pacer acct?

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: ithasbegun on May 06, 2012, 09:17 am

I remember a major case in the Netherlands, called the IRT case. It was reviewed by a parliamentary commission because the tactics that were not heard of before. The police went undercover and infiltraded the drugmarket. They imported 100.000s of kilo's foreign weed and some 15.000 kilo of cocaine. At least that's what public. They would offer it here in NL in big quantities in an attempt to map part of the bigger players in those markets.
The outcome of the parliamentary commission was that in the future operations like this should have approval in advance from a judge, that should not be initialized by police itself.

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: randomOVDB#2 on May 06, 2012, 02:48 pm

Quote from: toker420 on May 06, 2012, 12:11 am

Just get a pacer account bud.  Real easy if you got a credit card, which every fucking one does

Case number ?

Title: Re: okay now I know Tony got busted...

Post by: AJ on May 06, 2012, 03:41 pm

Well, all I know is I ordered almost 2 weeks ago and ain't got shit.  The guy posted on this forum 2 days ago saying the 420 sale left him high and dry or some BS.  This kinda throws the "busted" theory out the window.  All I want is my fucking order.

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